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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On September 21 2013 05:57 Makro wrote: i'm already bored with the romans, which faction do you recommend me to play ? the only remotely chalanging factions so far have been suebi and carthage. but you should play on legendary | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22408 Posts
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On September 21 2013 08:08 Masq wrote: So is this like Civ? Looks fun civ like turn based over view map with RTS combat. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9852 Posts
On September 21 2013 05:57 Makro wrote: i'm already bored with the romans, which faction do you recommend me to play ? Egypt is fun. Lots of war. | ||
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
On September 21 2013 08:08 Masq wrote: So is this like Civ? Looks fun Civ sucks balls compared to rome because you dont have cinematic movie-like realtime battles. Battles in civ are just lame. Also civ is kind of abstracted and arcady. That can be more fun sometimes because its more of a sandbox game while rome is more restricting. For example you can found new cities in civ and you have a lot of unusued space while in rome everything is already owned by someone and you can not found new settlements, only conquer other ones. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On September 21 2013 08:08 Masq wrote: So is this like Civ? Looks fun Not like Civ no. Mainly: 1. Rome 2 is a mess (getting patched often though) while Civ is actually an almost finished product. And admiteddly I haven't played much since release. I'm telling myself I'll wait until weekly patches stop having 200lines of stuff. 2. Civ is more of a management game with lots of features while Rome is more about battles and wars 3. Everything in Civ is turn based while Rome 2 uses a hybrid system where all the campaign management is turn based but when a battle happen it switches to a battle map and is in real time 4. Rome 2 tries to have some historical accuracy while Civ uses history only as a feature. The map in rome is Europe, settlement are fixed etc. There's not a lot of random elements in Rome 2. 5. While many thinks Civ AI sucks, it is still way better than Rome 2 AI (or any Total War AI for that matter). 6. Rome 2 is easy (until AI fixed... maybe). So mainly, if you like real time grand battles and really like ancient Europe check Rome 2, it's its strengths but if you think of taking the game only for its campaign mode, think twice, Civ is just a better turn based game when it comes to managing stuff. | ||
Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
On September 21 2013 05:57 Makro wrote: i'm already bored with the romans, which faction do you recommend me to play ? Suebi and Sparta are fun. Egypt seems cool but I haven't played it. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On September 21 2013 08:08 Masq wrote: So is this like Civ? Looks fun No. you play this for the real time battles, the civ-like features are just enough to give the battles meaning. In theory, when the AI isnt broken. | ||
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
On September 21 2013 03:08 Xxio wrote: It looks like CA is doing everything right to fix the game. I still contend that these "fixes" should have been done before they released it. Though it's a good thing they're addressing them late instead of never.... On September 21 2013 08:19 SpikeStarcraft wrote: Civ sucks balls compared to rome because you dont have cinematic movie-like realtime battles. Battles in civ are just lame. Also civ is kind of abstracted and arcady. That can be more fun sometimes because its more of a sandbox game while rome is more restricting. For example you can found new cities in civ and you have a lot of unusued space while in rome everything is already owned by someone and you can not found new settlements, only conquer other ones. Civ (V) does not "suck" anything. The two franchises represent entirely different genres, and one's enjoyment of them depends on what the player is going for. I prefer TW because I like the historicity and epically-scaled battles. But Civ is fun in that it's an enormously glorified board game fine-tuned, well-balanced, and remarkably intuitive given its complexity. Grant others their own. Civ has a lot of positive qualities that TW and Creative Assembly could serve to mooch off of. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
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qotsager
Germany585 Posts
On September 21 2013 05:21 SCkad wrote: how about they fix the siege equipment first THEN consider removing torches m'kay? i don't mean the ballistae but the ladders and the rams and the galleys need to be fixed first. you can start by letting me move siege equipment so that burning the walls is not the quickest way into the city you mean as in reposition it on the battlemap when positioning you army? that's entirely possible. make a unit grab your rams/ladders/towers - voilá. if you mean build somewhere and move around on the campaign map, well, that never was an option in any game. | ||
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
On September 21 2013 14:28 xDaunt wrote: Okay, I don't get it. My Roman general legionaries unit and a garrison legionaries unit just went apeshit and murdered 1300 Carthaginians between the two of them, which included 2 elephant generals and a bunch of hoplites and Iberian swordsman. I didn't do anything. I was just making a desperate last stand at a town square and ended up winning a battle that I had no business winning. Is there some weird, random bullshit unit bonus that kicks in every now and then? Something similar happened to me a few hours ago. I'm pretty sure it happens because the AI rushes the flag and doesn't attack your units - it tries to run past/through them and gets slaughtered in the process. For me it was Libyan javelin men and hoplites who ran straight at my hastati. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9852 Posts
On September 21 2013 16:41 Xxio wrote: Something similar happened to me a few hours ago. I'm pretty sure it happens because the AI rushes the flag and doesn't attack your units - it tries to run past/through them and gets slaughtered in the process. For me it was Libyan javelin men and hoplites who ran straight at my hastati. The patch notes included one incredibly baffling line: "Attacking AI is now more likely to prioritize taking Victory Points in Siege Battles / City Assault Battles" | ||
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RolleMcKnolle
Germany1054 Posts
On September 21 2013 17:31 Jockmcplop wrote: The patch notes included one incredibly baffling line: "Attacking AI is now more likely to prioritize taking Victory Points in Siege Battles / City Assault Battles" maybe proritizing it over standing around doing nothing when "attacking" walls? that would be an improvement... | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9852 Posts
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
On September 21 2013 20:17 Jockmcplop wrote: But it should prioritize having a battle over blindly trying to run through a phalanx OR standing around doing nothing. It's so weird, sometimes i see things that are really promising, like almost human moves, but then again the AI is fucking up the basics. I think it can be repaired and brought to a good level, as long as CA keeps a reasonable Support Team alive, despite working heavily on Warhammer Total War and if they're keeping their promise to make this the most moddable TW game up to this day, which it certainly isn't yet. | ||
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SCkad
Scotland97 Posts
On September 21 2013 16:24 qotsager wrote: you mean as in reposition it on the battlemap when positioning you army? that's entirely possible. make a unit grab your rams/ladders/towers - voilá. if you mean build somewhere and move around on the campaign map, well, that never was an option in any game. on the battlemap, but i don't think that works actually unless it was a patch fix i've not noticed, since IIRC clicking on a unit to pick up the Siege Equipment will move it forward like normal but clicking to move it again will drop the equipment and then move the unit | ||
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qotsager
Germany585 Posts
On September 21 2013 21:14 SCkad wrote: on the battlemap, but i don't think that works actually unless it was a patch fix i've not noticed, since IIRC clicking on a unit to pick up the Siege Equipment will move it forward like normal but clicking to move it again will drop the equipment and then move the unit i was able to move siege equipment that way from day one i believe. if i'm mistaken there, i am at least 100% sure it works like that now. oh and the new patch (third beta) did something weird to the game... the game goes way off bounds resolutionwise whenever you minimize it, so my roomie and me are only able to see the top right fraction of the screen... i guess it's in beta for a reason. | ||
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