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ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
October 13 2012 20:16 GMT
#601
Yeah once you get heavy plasma/rifles and alloy cannons it gets to be much less difficult. Only things that bother me now are a cyberdisk+sectopod combo. Mutons and chryssalids get one shot and a sniper can double tap 2 out in one turn. Even cyberdisks can be one shot
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
October 13 2012 20:45 GMT
#602
By that point, a single sniper can kill two cyberdisks in one turn, and a heavy can kill a cyberdisk per turn.
Mechanized units really aren't a problem, ethereals and other MC stuff are. I generally try to overkill them as soon as I see them.
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
October 13 2012 22:16 GMT
#603
Jesus christ at times the game is WAY WAY too random. It's more like playing dice than strategy. When you have 5 guys in cover in Overwatch and a muton runs up, in the open, 5 guys ALL MISS and the muton gets a 12 dmg critical in the face of my captain who dies instantly. Oh and then he runs away.

England will fight to the last American
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
October 13 2012 22:24 GMT
#604
Its amazing that this is the first game of its kind ever, a sort of management sim and a really awesome turn based stratgety game all in one. I'm hoping developers make more of these games.
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
October 13 2012 22:26 GMT
#605
It is funny how people are complaining about their guys missing, yet no one complains about them hitting the target with 10% chance to hit :-) It is not as memorable if it works in your favor, is it? Because that's the way it should be :D
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
October 13 2012 22:27 GMT
#606
On October 14 2012 07:24 masterbreti wrote:
Its amazing that this is the first game of its kind ever, a sort of management sim and a really awesome turn based stratgety game all in one. I'm hoping developers make more of these games.

Did you miss the fact that this is a remake of a 18 year old game? oO
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
October 13 2012 22:45 GMT
#607
On October 14 2012 07:24 masterbreti wrote:
Its amazing that this is the first game of its kind ever, a sort of management sim and a really awesome turn based stratgety game all in one. I'm hoping developers make more of these games.

Were you living under a rock? I can name close to 10 games that have similar gameplay (some much superior).
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22209 Posts
October 13 2012 22:46 GMT
#608
On October 14 2012 07:26 Random() wrote:
It is funny how people are complaining about their guys missing, yet no one complains about them hitting the target with 10% chance to hit :-) It is not as memorable if it works in your favor, is it? Because that's the way it should be :D


Actualy when its 10% we dont waste the shot and do something more useful with the action instead :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
October 13 2012 22:50 GMT
#609
On October 14 2012 07:24 masterbreti wrote:
Its amazing that this is the first game of its kind ever, a sort of management sim and a really awesome turn based stratgety game all in one. I'm hoping developers make more of these games.


1994 called, they want their ideas back.
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
October 13 2012 22:54 GMT
#610
On October 14 2012 07:45 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 07:24 masterbreti wrote:
Its amazing that this is the first game of its kind ever, a sort of management sim and a really awesome turn based stratgety game all in one. I'm hoping developers make more of these games.

Were you living under a rock? I can name close to 10 games that have similar gameplay (some much superior).


Just out of curiosity, please do name those 10 games that are similar and much superior.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
October 13 2012 22:56 GMT
#611
On October 14 2012 07:54 Random() wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 07:45 -Archangel- wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:24 masterbreti wrote:
Its amazing that this is the first game of its kind ever, a sort of management sim and a really awesome turn based stratgety game all in one. I'm hoping developers make more of these games.

Were you living under a rock? I can name close to 10 games that have similar gameplay (some much superior).


Just out of curiosity, please do name those 10 games that are similar and much superior.


I'll put the best on the list out, Jagged Alliance 2.
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
October 13 2012 23:00 GMT
#612
On October 14 2012 07:56 daemir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 07:54 Random() wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:45 -Archangel- wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:24 masterbreti wrote:
Its amazing that this is the first game of its kind ever, a sort of management sim and a really awesome turn based stratgety game all in one. I'm hoping developers make more of these games.

Were you living under a rock? I can name close to 10 games that have similar gameplay (some much superior).


Just out of curiosity, please do name those 10 games that are similar and much superior.


I'll put the best on the list out, Jagged Alliance 2.


You mean Fallout 2 ? XD
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
October 13 2012 23:03 GMT
#613
On October 14 2012 08:00 Ottoxlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 07:56 daemir wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:54 Random() wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:45 -Archangel- wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:24 masterbreti wrote:
Its amazing that this is the first game of its kind ever, a sort of management sim and a really awesome turn based stratgety game all in one. I'm hoping developers make more of these games.

Were you living under a rock? I can name close to 10 games that have similar gameplay (some much superior).


Just out of curiosity, please do name those 10 games that are similar and much superior.


I'll put the best on the list out, Jagged Alliance 2.


You mean Fallout 2 ? XD


Hey, Fallout is not fair :-) The guy specifically said global management and tactical turn-based combat. JA2 is a good example though in my opinion it involves a little bit too much AI abuse :-)
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 23:12:19
October 13 2012 23:11 GMT
#614
On October 14 2012 07:54 Random() wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 07:45 -Archangel- wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:24 masterbreti wrote:
Its amazing that this is the first game of its kind ever, a sort of management sim and a really awesome turn based stratgety game all in one. I'm hoping developers make more of these games.

Were you living under a rock? I can name close to 10 games that have similar gameplay (some much superior).


Just out of curiosity, please do name those 10 games that are similar and much superior.

X-com 1, 2, 3 - all superior in all elements
Rest are superior in some elements, and equal or worse in others:
UFO Aftermath, UFO Afterlight, UFO Aftershock
X-com: Extraterrestrials
UFO: Alien Invasion
And then we got Xenonauts coming soon whose Demo has more options then this game lol.
And X-com: Extraterrestrials 2

Then JA2 as was mentioned although that one is a bit different.

BTW, I said some of them are superior but all of them are similar.
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 23:32:58
October 13 2012 23:26 GMT
#615
On October 14 2012 08:11 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 07:54 Random() wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:45 -Archangel- wrote:
On October 14 2012 07:24 masterbreti wrote:
Its amazing that this is the first game of its kind ever, a sort of management sim and a really awesome turn based stratgety game all in one. I'm hoping developers make more of these games.

Were you living under a rock? I can name close to 10 games that have similar gameplay (some much superior).


Just out of curiosity, please do name those 10 games that are similar and much superior.

X-com 1, 2, 3 - all superior in all elements
Rest are superior in some elements, and equal or worse in others:
UFO Aftermath, UFO Afterlight, UFO Aftershock
X-com: Extraterrestrials
UFO: Alien Invasion
And then we got Xenonauts coming soon whose Demo has more options then this game lol.
And X-com: Extraterrestrials 2

Then JA2 as was mentioned although that one is a bit different.


OK, though I disagree about the "much superior" statement. In the Afterxxx series the management part was really well done but the combat was pretty bad. TFTD is just a re-skin of the first XCOM for the most part, with additions (the ship missions) being pretty badly designed . UFO: AI was horrendously buggy the last time I tried to play it but even ignoring that it felt sort of pointless, not bringing anything particularly different from original XCOM, I'd rather just play the original.

Besides, I'd like to know some games that are not remakes of XCOM 1994 in one way or another :-)

Just for the record I am a huge fan of the XCOM series and I've been playing the shit out of those games ever since they were made and I honestly think this new XCOM is pretty good. To me it's like XCOM 1994 > XCOM 2012 = XCOM Apocalypse > UFO: Afterxxx > all other XCOM wannabe crap :-)
vasculaR
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia791 Posts
October 13 2012 23:29 GMT
#616
So I started playing the remake and I choose Classic only and I found it pretty difficult if I couldn't abuse reloads.

Also, one of the starting members in my squad randomed "Liam Gallagher" as his name. Hahhaa.. was kinda cool.

Song Ji Hyo hwaiting!
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
October 13 2012 23:36 GMT
#617
Also I met sectoid commanders x3 in a UIFO I shot down. Mind controlled three of my best guys and then it was over. WTF are you supposed to do? You can't use cover in any way
England will fight to the last American
Obscura.304
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
150 Posts
October 13 2012 23:52 GMT
#618
On October 14 2012 08:36 KaiserJohan wrote:
Also I met sectoid commanders x3 in a UIFO I shot down. Mind controlled three of my best guys and then it was over. WTF are you supposed to do? You can't use cover in any way

You advanced the plot too fast. If you do the researches marked "priority" before the weapons upgrades, you get stuck in an unwinnable situation.

Really retarded that they tied the appearances of alien types to the plot rather than to elapsed time, but it's not like they did anything else right, either.
duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 23:53:31
October 13 2012 23:52 GMT
#619
So on my way to a council mission my scanners found a large UFO over Nigeria. So far, so good. After I finished the council mission while my shuttle wants to fly back to base, my base wants to fight the UFO.
Then it bugs out, can't get past it so frustrating
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
October 13 2012 23:53 GMT
#620
You have your snipers in overwatch half map away so as soon as one of the sectoids pops a head out in the open to MC one of your guys, he eats a plasma shot to the head.

And you don't rush in with your whole squad, there's a reason why assault can specialize in all sorts of defensive stuffs. Scout with one unit, while rest cover. Spot enemies, run back. Maybe they'll follow into your overwatch fire.
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