http://forum.salemthegame.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4629&start=10

First I would try using Ender's Client (or the new fork of it) instead of the default one.

To install Ender's without getting errors you'll have to delete your Salem folder, download the forked Ender's client, then download Enders. You can also just use the fork; it's possibly better anyway. Both are found on the forums in the Arcana section.

alfyma

United Kingdom78 Posts

February 27 2014 11:59 GMT

#482

Yeah I have the same problem with the default client on my mac. AFAIK this at least is not directly the devs fault, but a problem with a lot of java 7 apps on retina display macs. Its possibly something to do with security settings, but I could never figure it out…

Enders works, however, and is better anyway.

ElvisWayCool

United States437 Posts

February 27 2014 18:48 GMT

#483

So when I go to get Ender's I get 2 options, the 2 links here: http://forum.salemthegame.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=50&hilit=Ender's client. They are both called an updater, which already puts me off. I deleted everything Salem related on my computer and tried them again. The first one "updated" a bunch of stuff, said it would start a launcher, then did nothing. The second one "updated" one of those files, said it would start a launcher, then got an error found in the spoiler.
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java.lang.Error: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
at haven.MainFrame.javabughack(MainFrame.java:393)
at haven.MainFrame.main2(MainFrame.java:406)
at haven.MainFrame.access$100(MainFrame.java:63)
at haven.MainFrame$8.run(MainFrame.java:476)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:695)
Caused by: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
at java.awt.EventQueue.invokeAndWait(EventQueue.java:1126)
at java.awt.EventQueue.invokeAndWait(EventQueue.java:1103)
at javax.swing.SwingUtilities.invokeAndWait(SwingUtilities.java:1326)
at haven.MainFrame.javabughack(MainFrame.java:384)
... 4 more
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/jogamp/common/type/WriteCloneable
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClassCond(ClassLoader.java:637)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:621)
at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:141)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:283)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$000(URLClassLoader.java:58)
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:197)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:190)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:301)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:247)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClassCond(ClassLoader.java:637)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:621)
at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:141)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:283)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$000(URLClassLoader.java:58)
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:197)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:190)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:301)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:247)
at haven.TexGL$TexDraw.<clinit>(TexGL.java:83)
at haven.TexGL.<init>(TexGL.java:154)
at haven.TexGL.<init>(TexGL.java:282)
at haven.TexI.<init>(TexI.java:42)
at haven.Resource$Image$1.<init>(Resource.java:618)
at haven.Resource$Image.tex(Resource.java:618)
at haven.Resource.loadtex(Resource.java:1515)
at haven.LoginScreen.<clinit>(LoginScreen.java:47)
at haven.MainFrame$5.run(MainFrame.java:387)
at java.awt.event.InvocationEvent.dispatch(InvocationEvent.java:199)
at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(EventQueue.java:715)
at java.awt.EventQueue.access$400(EventQueue.java:82)

Do I need to have the Salem original client installed then get Ender's? I really want to play but not being able to right click sucks haha.

Gormil

Germany29 Posts

February 27 2014 19:41 GMT

#484

Hey guys.. try to use Latikai client. This is the best one. Just search for the link in the Salem forum.

Serejai.. do we have a TL town?

Serejai

6007 Posts

February 27 2014 20:06 GMT

#485

You have to install Latikai before lenders. Don't ask why.

No we don't have a village but myself and pablols are playing together and you're welcome to join..

ElvisWayCool

United States437 Posts

February 28 2014 02:03 GMT

#486

Latikai client doesn't even try to start up for me

. It updates, says starting client, then disappears. Ughhh I just want to play.

Serejai

6007 Posts

February 28 2014 02:43 GMT

#487

Try using Java 6. This game has a lot of issues with 7.

Pablols

Chile519 Posts

February 28 2014 17:32 GMT

#488

On February 28 2014 11:03 ElvisWayCool wrote:
Latikai client doesn't even try to start up for me

. It updates, says starting client, then disappears. Ughhh I just want to play.

I got the same java error, you have to delete your Salem folder, for me it was at C:/users/user/appdata/salem, and then run the custom updater. It should start downloading a bunch of stuff, and when it finishes the game will open. I also had to change the security setting on java from high to medium for the custom client.

Serejai

6007 Posts

February 28 2014 23:20 GMT

#489

Day 7:

I got murdered by a pay to win player. Game over!

KtheZ

United States813 Posts

March 01 2014 01:36 GMT

#490

Ahahahhahahahahhahahahahaha

We both knew this was coming

Serejai

6007 Posts

March 01 2014 07:47 GMT

#491

Yeah, I was murdered by the Tribe. It seems that signing their peace treaty doesn't actually mean anything. Who would've thought?

alfyma

United Kingdom78 Posts

March 02 2014 00:20 GMT

#492

Ouch

Will you continue to play?

Did you communicate with the tribe in any way that you have records of? Where were you killed? It would be interesting if you could prove the treaty is worthless.

Gormil

Germany29 Posts

March 03 2014 19:01 GMT

#493

Hey guys! I have iron for u.. if u need anything?!

alfyma

United Kingdom78 Posts

March 07 2014 15:14 GMT

#494

My little group had our first hostile encounter last night. We were all outside our walls planning a new area to dry boards in

[You make piles of 40 fresh boards. They take 5.5 real time days to dry, and then you harvest them - some will be dry, and some (most) will be mouldy & useless. After that, you can plane the dried boards to make planed boards and then soak them in oil to make oiled boards, which are used in high level crafts. There are losses at each stage. When planing, you can just ruin the board and produce woodchips, and when soaking in oil, the boards can warp. So generally you need a lot of board piles. Making boards is quite a labour intensive process, and we planned to make 720 boards total.]

when all of a sudden, I spotted two men running towards us - one in starter clothes, and one wearing at least 2 items which can only be bought in the cash shop. I shouted to my comrades to get inside the walls and put my main inside as fast as I could. Unfortunately, one alt was left outside, but we managed to get the gates shut before they got in. They then proceeded to chase the alt and knock it out, as well as breaking all the fishing traps we had left in the lake nearby. I managed to convince them that the alt wasn't worth leaving murder scents for, saying it was just a lumberjack alt, when in fact it was our main farmer… So they left, not having done too much damage.

We probably could have fought- there were 3 of us and 2 of them - but from the damage they did to the alt, it was clear that they had much higher stats than us, and none of us have murder or even theft yet, and so even successfully fighting would cause them to just come back and kill us for it.

[I estimated that they had ~1.5x our stats on each of their characters. Because of the way HP and combat works, this works out as each of their characters being approximately 1.83 as useful as ours, assuming equal skill - and I'm the only one in our group who has ever fought anything apart from animals..]

Luckily, they couldn't get into our base since we have a village claim up, which stops people from breaking stuff (like walls) on your property, unless they put a special claim called a Trial by Fire down. But now our focus is totally on increasing our defenses and grinding criminal skills so we can compete. I'm tempted to track them to find out where they live, even though that would probably be largely pointless, take many hours, and may put my character in quite a bit of danger. I'm sure they will be back, and I hope we have time to be ready for them...

Serejai

6007 Posts

March 08 2014 11:03 GMT

#495

Lol. The developers just put out a patch today to fix some bug abusing that all the major factions have been doing since the server started. This bug was reported over a year ago and the developers wait until the big factions abuse it for two weeks (and make loads of currency profit from it as well) and then decide to fix it.

So now, if you're in a big faction you're sitting at 80 stats and tens of thousands of coin. If you're a hermit or in a small group you're sitting around 30 stats and a few hundred coin.

Not only is the game pay to win but it's also bug abuse to win. Incredible :D

alfyma

United Kingdom78 Posts

March 09 2014 00:44 GMT

#496

Yeah, its a pretty bad situation. But because the bugged foods were not all-round useful (almost solely black bile) noone actually got to really high stats - in fact I'm sitting at nearly 50 now, when the max stat for things other than black bile is ~70. So its not as bad as all that :p

Anyway, its pointless trying to compete with people who will bot/bugabuse/buy their way to victory anyway. This game is slightly ridiculous partly due to the small dev team and partly due to the horrific player base but its also actually quite beautiful in some ways, mainly due to the idiosyncrasies of the devs, so I'll keep playing until I go down fighting

(mainly i want to make a massive alchemy lab)

Some japanese players visited us today. They gave us a valuable indian feather and showed us their ridiculously organized but completely undefended base - I think they want to be friends. I hope they don't get crushed soon.

Serejai

6007 Posts

March 09 2014 01:51 GMT

#497

PM me the location of their completely undefended base. I want to be their friend, too

Serejai

6007 Posts

March 09 2014 01:56 GMT

#498

Also here is how the developers react to constructive criticism:

First of all you are an ungrateful, spoiled child..

I don't give a damn...

no single fuck is given..

And they wonder why they got dropped from their publisher :D

alfyma

United Kingdom78 Posts

March 09 2014 14:08 GMT

#499

Considering that was a response to criticism by the biggest abuser of bugs and bots there is in the game I would think its kindof understandable.

scrubtastic

1166 Posts

March 18 2014 06:49 GMT

#500

Him abusing bugs/bots doesn't mean the criticism isn't valid. In fact, I think there is worth in checking out what the worst exploiters/bug abusers do and think in order to fix your worst exploits and create disincentives for bots to exist in the first place. Having an environment where rampant botting is encouraged is a bad thing...right?

I guess what I'm trying to say is that even if you hate the fucking exploiter/botter for ripping apart your precious game, he still might have something worth saying and to dismiss the person like that is pretty dumb/childish imo