EPTBlizzard declining in creativity? - Page 7
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Oiseaux
United States676 Posts
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victoryimminent
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StarStruck
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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schimmetje
Netherlands1104 Posts
As for the games they have brought out, they often include new things or old things in new ways, that's creativity too and that's why their stuff is still more interesting than the copy the same thing into a new setting games most publishers put out there these days. | ||
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Daray
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
On April 15 2012 16:41 Xapti wrote: Blackthorne was originally (or at least simultaneously) a PC game, as-was the lost vikings. (I'm not sure what the 3rd game is). Blackthorne wasn't really innovative at all in my opinion though. WTF are you talking about? The last video isn't a game cinematic, it's just a trailer. Not to mention, what does that have to do with game variety? The fact that there's less story or plot or such is due to the fact that it's an MMO, and an expansion. Both MMOs and Expansions aren't that huge on story. It's improper to expect the same type of things from different types of games. Not all great games have to have great plots. It's not like Unreal Tournament had significant plots. I don't know of anyone who thought that Titan was Mists of Pandaria. Do I not know enough people or something? You sound completely ridiculous to me. I think it's especially strange that you do this complaining when you know about Titan, which is a new universe, and I'm sure would be at least somewhat innovative. Hello to you to. Yeah well there is no intro/CGI video of Mists of Pandaria as far as I know, hence it is a little bit hard to show it. My point is that the story is retarded and random. Has no connection to previous story and well I dunno, what could be wrong with a story with a panda people living on a floating turtle? <-- amazing stuff right there! I wish I had come up with it first, it would have been a bestseller. Yes I know there was a Panda in WC3, I dont even remember if it had any story connection, I guess there must have been something. Your second statement, you say that there are good games like Unreal tournament that dont need a plot. Well I agree 100%, but then my topic is discussing that blizzards do not make creative games anymore. Not that they are not making "quality" games anymore. Which you seem to actually point out yourself. Yes Blizzard have pretty much only focused on releasing MMO expansions the last 5-6 years, and as you say are MMO expansions not very creative from either a story or development point of view. About Titan, by the way, yes I actually 100% believe that Titan is a stand alone MMO named MoP2. Or maybe there is a second option, here is a clue: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Joke What I have heard so far about Titan, "a casual MMO" do not sound all that thrilling to me. I am really interested if they can actually make something innovative in the MMO genre though, seems to be "the" most stagnated gaming genre. | ||
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Wegandi
United States2455 Posts
You can tell when a work has been someones passion, their soul imbued into the craftmanship, and when a work has been done without soul. Most of the works Blizzard has put out lately have been bureaucratic, ill-inspired, watered-down, snoozefests. It's why I am more and more moving my interests to smaller indie developers who create art with passion and soul. That's where you'll find the fine craftmanship that is sorely lacking with the likes of the bureaucratic behemoths. They'll soon be dead anyways, like all inefficient, soulless, bureaucracies. It's the same reason why Square-Enix has blown ass for a long long time now. They aren't Square-Soft. The small company with a vision. You can tell their games have gotten worse and worse overtime just like with Blizzard. A shame. Well that's creative destruction. Out with the old in with the new. I'm looking forward to what the next five years holds for the Indie developers. | ||
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Neurosis
United States893 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
I really love to see what Blizzard will bring us for their next MMORPG. | ||
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Spitfire
South Africa442 Posts
For younger fans 2000 - 2005 were the glory days of Blizzard. For me it was 1995 - 1999. In other words, not sure whether the developer gets less creative or if we just get older and more cynical. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17710 Posts
On April 16 2012 20:31 Spitfire wrote: Funny, I felt like Warcraft III wasnt as creative as Warcraft II. Felt like Diablo II lacked something Diablo had. For younger fans 2000 - 2005 were the glory days of Blizzard. For me it was 1995 - 1999. In other words, not sure whether the developer gets less creative or if we just get older and more cynical. I can agree on Diablo, but WC3 still remains the best of the best when it comes to RTS campaign, characters, innovation etc. WC2 was great, but the fact that both races were basically the same, with just models being changed and few units (which still had their exact counterparts) would take away from the total score you could give it. | ||
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shaftofpleasure
Korea (North)1375 Posts
On April 16 2012 20:31 Spitfire wrote: Funny, I felt like Warcraft III wasnt as creative as Warcraft II. Felt like Diablo II lacked something Diablo had. For younger fans 2000 - 2005 were the glory days of Blizzard. For me it was 1995 - 1999. In other words, not sure whether the developer gets less creative or if we just get older and more cynical. D1 was the bomb. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17710 Posts
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On April 16 2012 20:37 Manit0u wrote: I can agree on Diablo, but WC3 still remains the best of the best when it comes to RTS campaign, characters, innovation etc. WC2 was great, but the fact that both races were basically the same, with just models being changed and few units (which still had their exact counterparts) would take away from the total score you could give it. Wow, thats literally the first time i heard someone praise WC3 above WC2. For me WC3 was a flop, and it was received as one globally, later it got good with multiplayer improvement and stayed as good multiplayer game, but SP was kinda meh -_- Fuck it all The Lost Vikings was the best. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17710 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [TFT campaign] + Where in the last campaign your hero gets weaker with every mission instead of stronger. Not the typical stuff you see in campaigns. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
Warcraft 2 had some really amazing music for it's time really got me sucked in to the story line . | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10870 Posts
On April 16 2012 20:53 bgx wrote: Wow, thats literally the first time i heard someone praise WC3 above WC2. For me WC3 was a flop, and it was received as one globally, later it got good with multiplayer improvement and stayed as good multiplayer game, but SP was kinda meh -_- Fuck it all The Lost Vikings was the best. WC3's singleplayer was extremly good. Far and above everything all other RTS showed only comparable to (good) RPG's... How you can call it a flop is beyond me. Btw: I never really was into Warcraft 2. It was just another RTS among C&C1, Red Alert, KKND(!) and the others of that time. | ||
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