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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
On April 13 2012 09:40 cozzE wrote: WoW butchered the great story that was Warcraft 1-3. It's really sad. Makes me sad thinking that the canon story involves Arthas and Illidan being killed by 25 dudes who just want some epics.  | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On April 13 2012 09:40 cozzE wrote: WoW butchered the great story that was Warcraft 1-3. It's really sad. I'd be willing to bet you never played campaigns for Warcraft and Warcraft 2. The cannon was completely retconned and fucked up by Warcraft 3 already, and as Hikari and I both said, WC3: ROC was exceedingly similar to BW. WoW just made it 1000x worse. Like the same exact plot but in a fantasy setting. | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
The world stone was destroyed = the world as we knew it had come to an end I think you just answered your own question. | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
On April 13 2012 05:36 unkkz wrote: Dont they have a secret MMO in development? Which they say is not Warcraft, Starcraft or Diablo? It's called Titan, a new game world, and is in early alpha / beta according to one of the heads @ Blizz. Source : Guy at Blizz tweeted that he was playing around in early beta or alpha the other day. | ||
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
It makes perfect sense, and it's what happens in the entire gaming and film industry with the larger companies. You put in the minimum effort required to keep people buying your stuff. Anything beyond that is a waste of money and time. | ||
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
On April 13 2012 10:17 Angra wrote: They went from a smaller game company trying to make quality games to get customers and loyalty, to a leading company who already has a following so they only have to release fan service now rather than good games to make their money. It makes perfect sense, and it's what happens in the entire gaming and film industry with the larger companies. You put in the minimum effort required to keep people buying your stuff. Anything beyond that is a waste of money and time. this sadly. wow has become a sham. SC2's campaign was a sham, it had virtually no lore. D3 will probably be similar. ill still purchase it, but it may very well be the last of blizzards games that i do purchase unless they fix their shit. | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
On April 13 2012 10:17 Angra wrote: They went from a smaller game company trying to make quality games to get customers and loyalty, to a leading company who already has a following so they only have to release fan service now rather than good games to make their money. It makes perfect sense, and it's what happens in the entire gaming and film industry with the larger companies. You put in the minimum effort required to keep people buying your stuff. Anything beyond that is a waste of money and time. Don't give up hope, we still have valve! But yeah, ever since the vivendi buy and then the activision buy a lot of people left blizz, including the SC team, W3 team, and Diablo team. It's no surprise even Blizz has to answer to investors, making a game in this day and age is super expensive. | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On April 13 2012 10:20 Count9 wrote: Don't give up hope, we still have valve! But yeah, ever since the vivendi buy and then the activision buy a lot of people left blizz, including the SC team, W3 team, and Diablo team. It's no surprise even Blizz has to answer to investors, making a game in this day and age is super expensive. umm SC and WC team are basically the people who are high ranked in Blizzard right now. Only Blizzard North that left and Blizzard North has nothing to do with WC,SC. | ||
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empty.bottle
685 Posts
On April 13 2012 02:28 Humposaurus wrote: I totally agree with the OP, but this goes with most game developers anyways. They all just copy their successes and make it prettyer just looks at the gta series or the halo/cod/fifa series. And WoW wasn't really an innovative product it was just a polished up version of Ragnarok and Tibia <-- the only two true mmorpg's  LOL Ragnarok and Tibia, I was expecting Neverwinter Nights(1991) or UO, maybe Everquest. Your games are a joke. | ||
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Ighox
Norway580 Posts
It's such a huge risk to create stuff from scratch, especially when they can release basically anything within their current franchises and gain huge profits from it. Just look at WoW, with every expansion release people have said "this expansion sucks etc." and they're claiming the game is turning to shit, yet the subscriber numbers keep growing with every expansion. (And funnily enough, the next patch for Rift basically has half the features of the next WoW expansion but since the game wasn't built on a successful old franchise they would NEVER have gotten away with releasing expansions like that.) So basically, they would be retards to not exploit the hand they were dealt. The new franchise they're working on might be interesting, at least it will be interesting to see if they've completely lost it. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
Anyway yes there are two new games/franchise coming out, one of them is something completely new. You're right though, never thought about the panda thing... is it going to be a serious story or what? Also just wanna say, WC3 RoC graphics always amazes me. Can you believe that it came out only 3 years after SC:BW ? What the fuck? Look at those graphics xD It's already been 11 years. Holy fuck? (Though of course it probably has also to do with merging with Activision) | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
On April 13 2012 04:02 4ZakeN87 wrote: Yep project Titan is definitely going to be the true measurement of Blizzard. I wonder if they can actually "recreate" the MMO gender though. To me MMO seems to be the most stagnated out of all gaming genders. To me they all seems to WOW wannabes with some minor variation (not EVE-online to be fair). PVE grinding, item gathering and so-so PVP seems to be a core piece in every MMO. If they really could make groundbreaking MMO it be interesting for sure. Did no one else notice he referred to genres as genders? Anyways, I have low expectations for the Titan project. They've already stated it was meant for casuals, which means it will probably have dull/simple game mechanics, lots of limiters(to prevent hardcore players from gaining an edge), and micro-purchasing will be rampant. | ||
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erin[go]bragh
United States815 Posts
Edit: On April 13 2012 11:32 killa_robot wrote: Did no one else notice he referred to genres as genders? Anyways, I have low expectations for the Titan project. They've already stated it was meant for casuals, which means it will probably have dull/simple game mechanics, lots of limiters(to prevent hardcore players from gaining an edge), and micro-purchasing will be rampant. Funnily enough, this is exactly why I'm so interested in Guild Wars 2. Not only is it actually breaking the mold and looking to stand apart from the WoW clones, but the company making it, Arena Net, is actually made up largely of former Blizzard employees from the heyday of SC, BW, D2, WC1-3, ect. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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sinii
England989 Posts
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
However I think there should be a limit to this. Blizzard is at least for me coming to an point where their games start to be obviously redundant. Also as I stated earlier there is a reason why you do not see the fourth and fifth sequel on movies, because by default the story becomes progressively worse for every installment. Which is what we see in WOW now. I mean is it only me that thinks that actually story is a main part of the Warcraft and Diablo games? You would think that when the story is turned to shit, that would affect the number of sold copies. I realize that it can work at least once but in the long run I wonder. If the story is as bad as I think it is in D3 and MoP, can they still just continue with releasing D4/next WOW expansions without any issues? People compare it to the Super Mario genre but I do not think that it is the same thing. Because story has never been a major contributor to those games. If Bowser (or whatever his name is) is suddenly "alive" again in the next Super mario game I dont really care to much, fine he is alive once again. If Arthas on the other hand is suddenly walking around as the new evil king of the floating turtle land I want an explanation, and it better be a pretty good one at that. "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" statement comes to mind here. If we take a look at Square Enix for instance, a company that really has gone down hill over the last years. I liked FF-XII alot, I bought FF-XIII and I cannot say I was overly impressed by that. Add to this that FF-IVX was a complete disaster I have become rather suspicious against Square Enix. I did not buy FF-XIII-2, I still have big hopes for FF-XIII Versus, but I am not buying that before I see a a couple of very good reviews of that game  If Verus on the other hand fails I am not sure if I ever going to buy another Square Enix game. I cannot imagine this being good for Square Enix and I think that Blizzard runs the danger of going down the same path with there current mind set. I personally I do not as much of a I problem in SC2 as I consider it mainly a multiplayer game, and regardless of balance debates and SC2 story it is still one of the leading games in the development of the E-sport and that is what really matters for me. Once again Titan is the big unknown here though, better be good! Do not know what think of the expression "a casual MMO" though, cannot say it makes me jump with excitement exactly -.- | ||
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boppel
140 Posts
putting in some pokemon pet fights in the panda addon :D im so happy that i "left" WoW at the mid of WoTLK. game has only getting worse since then. with left i mean i do not play it actively anymore, i might buy a 1 month sub. when i feel like i NEED to play it again because it was so much fun at a time, then i log into WoW and i feel like ive got completely robbed last time i got a sub was when the raind finder thing was introduced to kill the cataclysm endboss, i only logged in every week to clear the raid with randoms. then i logged out lol. and since i know about that panda addon i said im not gonna buy it, and i feel like i have the power over myself to NOT buy it this time because the game just got way too boring for me, i really miss something creative and special in the game. and if u played WoW from the beginning u know that they are only grabbing out the "BEST" stuff from other games and implement those things to WoW.. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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AssyrianKing
Australia2116 Posts
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