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Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 19:23:00
November 16 2012 19:15 GMT
#1961
On November 17 2012 00:42 herMan wrote:
Thanks for the tips. About the dex weapon, is there any weapon of that kind to be found in the early stages of the game? I just killed the gaping dragon a while back and cleared out of blighttown back to the firelink shrine.

Also, how does the alphabet rating go when viewing parameter bonuses for weapons?


The rating goes from S-A-B-C-D-E. The higher ones are significantly better than lower ones. C or less is not very good scaling, B is ok, A is great, and S is insanely excellent, for the high ranks one step up results in much much much better scaling.

There is an awesome katana (Iaito) at the start of blighttown that you have to jump to, keep left from the depths entrance until you can see the swamp area and the bonfire and it's there. Another popular dex weapon is the bandit's knife, which has high crit damage(backstap/parry riposte) drops from the undead assasin/hollow thiefs in lower undead burg(the area before the Capra Demon boss, which also has dogs), though it may take awhile as they drop the hollow thiefs armor pieces too.

As to your earlier questions, yes Pyromancy is mostly fire magic, but there are a select few ones that aren't, like the power within buff, pyro's only scale off the level of your pyro hand. Stats usually don't get raised above 40, rarely 50 because of severely diminishing returns, you can already use most weapons with the 20 str and 14 dex you have. Dex also slightly raises cast speed on most spells (though not all of them, buffs don't go faster for example). Attunement gives you spell slots, but you should probably stop at 16 or 19, and maybe 23 if you push it, but it takes so long to get more slots after it isn't worth it. If you want sorceries, Int has good stopping points at 15/16 for most spells, though you can go higher(32-50) if you want to be a dedicated mage. Miracles are more support, some people get 12 faith just to use heal, or 30 for weapon buffs. Also never ever get resistance. For more on stats you can check the wiki's here and here.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 19:32:29
November 16 2012 19:31 GMT
#1962
I made a dex guy after my tank and spank character.

My weapons of choice were:

uchigatana by killing merchant +10 -> Chaos Blade (Only use this now in pvp or bosses) seems to hit like a truck at +4 with some humanity.

washingpole +14 bought it from the merchant in blighttown before I killed him.

I also have a

fire uchi
lightning uchi
chaos uchi

I bought a bunch of uchis for 5k a pop before I killed the merchant. I liked the R1 moveset and it looks cool so I stocked up. ^_^.

Someday I'll go back for the Iatio, I really want to try that as well.

I mostly use the Washingpole +14 in PvE for now.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2057 Posts
November 17 2012 12:13 GMT
#1963
Massive thanks for the responses here! I'll try to obtain the Iaito since I used a katana in demon souls for a large portion of the game.

This game isn't so clear on which area I should advance. I've killed the butterfly boss and been goofing around in the new londo ruins after that only to find that I cannot go further since I don't have a key. What's the next logical area to progress?
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
November 17 2012 14:12 GMT
#1964
you can go to blight town next
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2057 Posts
November 17 2012 14:50 GMT
#1965
Yeah I was there before the forest area. Should I progress to the queelag spider boss? It was pretty tough when I tried the first time.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
November 17 2012 14:59 GMT
#1966
yes you have to kill quelaag to advance further. If you took the shortcut to blight town you might as well kill the gaping dragon before queelag
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
November 17 2012 16:22 GMT
#1967
On November 17 2012 04:31 crms wrote:
I made a dex guy after my tank and spank character.

My weapons of choice were:

uchigatana by killing merchant +10 -> Chaos Blade (Only use this now in pvp or bosses) seems to hit like a truck at +4 with some humanity.

washingpole +14 bought it from the merchant in blighttown before I killed him.

I also have a

fire uchi
lightning uchi
chaos uchi

I bought a bunch of uchis for 5k a pop before I killed the merchant. I liked the R1 moveset and it looks cool so I stocked up. ^_^.

Someday I'll go back for the Iatio, I really want to try that as well.

I mostly use the Washingpole +14 in PvE for now.


The biggest difference between the Iaito and Uchi/Washing Pole is that the Iaito has a quickdraw on both of its heavy attacks. It's way more badass for that attack alone.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
November 19 2012 16:06 GMT
#1968
On November 18 2012 01:22 Fyrewolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 04:31 crms wrote:
I made a dex guy after my tank and spank character.

My weapons of choice were:

uchigatana by killing merchant +10 -> Chaos Blade (Only use this now in pvp or bosses) seems to hit like a truck at +4 with some humanity.

washingpole +14 bought it from the merchant in blighttown before I killed him.

I also have a

fire uchi
lightning uchi
chaos uchi

I bought a bunch of uchis for 5k a pop before I killed the merchant. I liked the R1 moveset and it looks cool so I stocked up. ^_^.

Someday I'll go back for the Iatio, I really want to try that as well.

I mostly use the Washingpole +14 in PvE for now.


The biggest difference between the Iaito and Uchi/Washing Pole is that the Iaito has a quickdraw on both of its heavy attacks. It's way more badass for that attack alone.


I'll have to go pick one up tonight then and try it out. ^_^
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
November 19 2012 16:29 GMT
#1969
On November 18 2012 01:22 Fyrewolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 04:31 crms wrote:
I made a dex guy after my tank and spank character.

My weapons of choice were:

uchigatana by killing merchant +10 -> Chaos Blade (Only use this now in pvp or bosses) seems to hit like a truck at +4 with some humanity.

washingpole +14 bought it from the merchant in blighttown before I killed him.

I also have a

fire uchi
lightning uchi
chaos uchi

I bought a bunch of uchis for 5k a pop before I killed the merchant. I liked the R1 moveset and it looks cool so I stocked up. ^_^.

Someday I'll go back for the Iatio, I really want to try that as well.

I mostly use the Washingpole +14 in PvE for now.


The biggest difference between the Iaito and Uchi/Washing Pole is that the Iaito has a quickdraw on both of its heavy attacks. It's way more badass for that attack alone.


And that the washing pole is only used by giant vaginas.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
November 19 2012 16:32 GMT
#1970
On November 20 2012 01:29 FlamingForce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 01:22 Fyrewolf wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:31 crms wrote:
I made a dex guy after my tank and spank character.

My weapons of choice were:

uchigatana by killing merchant +10 -> Chaos Blade (Only use this now in pvp or bosses) seems to hit like a truck at +4 with some humanity.

washingpole +14 bought it from the merchant in blighttown before I killed him.

I also have a

fire uchi
lightning uchi
chaos uchi

I bought a bunch of uchis for 5k a pop before I killed the merchant. I liked the R1 moveset and it looks cool so I stocked up. ^_^.

Someday I'll go back for the Iatio, I really want to try that as well.

I mostly use the Washingpole +14 in PvE for now.


The biggest difference between the Iaito and Uchi/Washing Pole is that the Iaito has a quickdraw on both of its heavy attacks. It's way more badass for that attack alone.


And that the washing pole is only used by giant vaginas.

Giant vaginas need big poles.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
November 19 2012 21:41 GMT
#1971
On November 20 2012 01:32 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 01:29 FlamingForce wrote:
On November 18 2012 01:22 Fyrewolf wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:31 crms wrote:
I made a dex guy after my tank and spank character.

My weapons of choice were:

uchigatana by killing merchant +10 -> Chaos Blade (Only use this now in pvp or bosses) seems to hit like a truck at +4 with some humanity.

washingpole +14 bought it from the merchant in blighttown before I killed him.

I also have a

fire uchi
lightning uchi
chaos uchi

I bought a bunch of uchis for 5k a pop before I killed the merchant. I liked the R1 moveset and it looks cool so I stocked up. ^_^.

Someday I'll go back for the Iatio, I really want to try that as well.

I mostly use the Washingpole +14 in PvE for now.


The biggest difference between the Iaito and Uchi/Washing Pole is that the Iaito has a quickdraw on both of its heavy attacks. It's way more badass for that attack alone.


And that the washing pole is only used by giant vaginas.

Giant vaginas need big poles.


Oooooooh wow.

I tip my hat to you, sir. Well done.
Morthy
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands78 Posts
November 20 2012 14:59 GMT
#1972
I was thinking and another reason why I think I liked Demon souls and Dark souls so much is prob it feels so much like Onimusha. Such a good game series was that .
bored01
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 15:41:03
November 22 2012 15:40 GMT
#1973
Despite having 200+ hours in Dark Souls and having both the ps3 and PC versions.. I have never actually finished the game. I usually stop at bed of chaos as my second last boss on my characters and just PvP/Co-op/make a new build. Fought it for the first time today trying not to cheese it. God damn. No wonder the developers apologized for this boss :/ Ended up using the quit game -> reenter boss fog trick. Anyone know an easy way to kill bed of chaos without using that trick to kill it?
Lewfen
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Sweden88 Posts
November 22 2012 16:03 GMT
#1974
If you have a good stability shield you can just walk to the right and kill that part and walk to the left while hugging the wall and shoot it with an arrow. After that you just have to bait the big arm swings and then jump in the hole.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 16:19:29
November 22 2012 16:19 GMT
#1975
Shield stability is useful, as the above post mentioned. Since you really don't need a good weapon, spend some equip load on a nice shield for the fight and use a dinky weapon. Block constantly.

Honestly the boss would be a lot worse if it reset completely when you died ><
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
November 24 2012 19:14 GMT
#1976
i just finished the game and starting ng+, my char is at level 101 with 50 vitality, 40 endurance and 40 dexterity with balder side sword

i dont know how to level my char now, should I go strength for better equipment or should i go int/faith for some spells?
How do you mine minerals?
Altsa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland990 Posts
November 24 2012 21:07 GMT
#1977
On November 25 2012 04:14 poor newb wrote:
i just finished the game and starting ng+, my char is at level 101 with 50 vitality, 40 endurance and 40 dexterity with balder side sword

i dont know how to level my char now, should I go strength for better equipment or should i go int/faith for some spells?


The fun part about ng+ is that you can literally do whatever you want( unless you are making optimal pvp character). You literally dont run out of souls and you can upgrade all kind of different weapons and buy different gear as much as you like.

So basically the thing you SHOULD do is to decide what you feel like doing.
AoD
Maxyim
Profile Joined March 2012
430 Posts
November 26 2012 21:26 GMT
#1978
So finally found time to start playing this. What kind of build / playstyle would you guys recommend for someone who wants the most rewarding experience possible? Right now, I am using Winged Spear / Hollow Warrior Shield and clearing Undead Burg to the first boss (have not faced him yet). I am comfortable with backstab and riposte.

I plan to stop at SL 200 for PvP (research shows that this seems to be the new metagame from SL 125).
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
November 26 2012 21:30 GMT
#1979
On November 27 2012 06:26 Maxyim wrote:
So finally found time to start playing this. What kind of build / playstyle would you guys recommend for someone who wants the most rewarding experience possible? Right now, I am using Winged Spear / Hollow Warrior Shield and clearing Undead Burg to the first boss (have not faced him yet). I am comfortable with backstab and riposte.

I plan to stop at SL 200 for PvP (research shows that this seems to be the new metagame from SL 125).

Imo playing with <25% equipment load with dark wood grain ring and using fast weapons ( katanas, balder sword) with high dex and alot of dodging ofcourse is very rewarding. Most people use very heavy armor and just tank their way through. Its still fun ofcourse because dark souls is an awesome game but its bland compared to dodging everything and using parries and backstabs.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
November 26 2012 22:21 GMT
#1980
On November 27 2012 06:26 Maxyim wrote:
So finally found time to start playing this. What kind of build / playstyle would you guys recommend for someone who wants the most rewarding experience possible? Right now, I am using Winged Spear / Hollow Warrior Shield and clearing Undead Burg to the first boss (have not faced him yet). I am comfortable with backstab and riposte.

I plan to stop at SL 200 for PvP (research shows that this seems to be the new metagame from SL 125).


Could you point me to the source of this research
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