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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 21:26:02
September 16 2012 21:23 GMT
#1421
On September 17 2012 06:09 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 04:44 Medrea wrote:
I dont think its as fun if you make it where there is no penalty on death.

frustration != fun, subsequent play thorough i wont use save states but getting lost and turned around ending up dead is not fun for a new player =p I didn't like the learning curb so i adjusted it.

I might do this just to go through god damned blighttown

I'm lost

And I'm getting shot by darts all the time, I already spent my blooming moss

It sucks
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
September 17 2012 00:41 GMT
#1422
da fuck is this!
[image loading]
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
September 17 2012 00:55 GMT
#1423
On September 17 2012 09:41 semantics wrote:
da fuck is this!
[image loading]


Hydra, difficult until you learn how to fight him, as usual
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 17 2012 01:01 GMT
#1424
On September 17 2012 06:23 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 06:09 semantics wrote:
On September 17 2012 04:44 Medrea wrote:
I dont think its as fun if you make it where there is no penalty on death.

frustration != fun, subsequent play thorough i wont use save states but getting lost and turned around ending up dead is not fun for a new player =p I didn't like the learning curb so i adjusted it.

I might do this just to go through god damned blighttown

I'm lost

And I'm getting shot by darts all the time, I already spent my blooming moss

It sucks


Wear poison resistance. This game is all about using everything at your disposal to win or survive.
twitch.tv/medrea
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
September 17 2012 01:21 GMT
#1425
On September 17 2012 09:55 ffreakk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 09:41 semantics wrote:
da fuck is this!
[image loading]


Hydra, difficult until you learn how to fight him, as usual

I do really poor with bosses i'm using the black knight greatsword which is working great 1v1 normal enemies but shit with armor and doesn't flinch it's such a hard thing to hit them and then dodge out of the way. The grass shield works wonders for my stamina though. I guess i can just copy saves right before him until i can work out how to beat him with the greatsword.
anatase
Profile Joined May 2010
France532 Posts
September 17 2012 01:44 GMT
#1426
hydra is actually rly easy once you work out the right stuff.
and this is easy to find out

Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
September 17 2012 02:34 GMT
#1427
On September 17 2012 06:23 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 06:09 semantics wrote:
On September 17 2012 04:44 Medrea wrote:
I dont think its as fun if you make it where there is no penalty on death.

frustration != fun, subsequent play thorough i wont use save states but getting lost and turned around ending up dead is not fun for a new player =p I didn't like the learning curb so i adjusted it.

I might do this just to go through god damned blighttown

I'm lost

And I'm getting shot by darts all the time, I already spent my blooming moss

It sucks


Interesting method of getting around that, is to use dung pies until you toxic yourself. The toxic from those does way less damage than the blowdarts (7hp/sec from dung pies, 32 hp/sec from blowdart) and then just do a suicide run through and kill every last one of those bastards since they don't respawn, and homeward bone out if you survive.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
September 17 2012 02:35 GMT
#1428
On September 17 2012 10:21 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 09:55 ffreakk wrote:
On September 17 2012 09:41 semantics wrote:
da fuck is this!
[image loading]


Hydra, difficult until you learn how to fight him, as usual

I do really poor with bosses i'm using the black knight greatsword which is working great 1v1 normal enemies but shit with armor and doesn't flinch it's such a hard thing to hit them and then dodge out of the way. The grass shield works wonders for my stamina though. I guess i can just copy saves right before him until i can work out how to beat him with the greatsword.


He's on of the easiest bosses in the game, the only tricky part is not getting hit by his projectiles before you get close to him.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
September 17 2012 02:36 GMT
#1429
On September 17 2012 05:05 Odoakar wrote:
Does anyone know if I'm chaos servant rank 2, and I leave them, will I still be +2 after rejoinin? Or do I need to then put another 30 humanities to get back to rank 2?


You lose half of your rank if you abandon the covenent. So it will take 15 humanities to get back to +2 if you leave and rejoin.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 04:42:31
September 17 2012 04:42 GMT
#1430
this game is awesome but some of the bullshit should be fixed. I don't mind the challenge, I love it! I just hate silly shit like getting hit through walls, not being able to use terrain as effectively etc. I was just now going towards smoughs room for the boss fight and apparently the sentinel underneath hit me through the stairs causing my character to fall down, slide like a worm off the stairs and then get pinned against the wall.

shit like that makes me rage more than any actual game difficulty. ~_~
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 17 2012 04:46 GMT
#1431
Yeah Dark Souls has got to be one of the ten or so best games I've ever played, but there's a small list of things that I would like to see fixed/removed for the sequel. Crap like the Bed of Chaos really has no place in this game; it's pure trial and error garbage. At least the (hidden) bonfire isn't placed too far away. :|
it's my first day
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
September 17 2012 05:09 GMT
#1432
On September 17 2012 13:42 crms wrote:
this game is awesome but some of the bullshit should be fixed. I don't mind the challenge, I love it! I just hate silly shit like getting hit through walls, not being able to use terrain as effectively etc. I was just now going towards smoughs room for the boss fight and apparently the sentinel underneath hit me through the stairs causing my character to fall down, slide like a worm off the stairs and then get pinned against the wall.

shit like that makes me rage more than any actual game difficulty. ~_~


You mean things that happen in literally every single game ever?
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
September 17 2012 05:14 GMT
#1433
On September 17 2012 13:46 myopia wrote:
Yeah Dark Souls has got to be one of the ten or so best games I've ever played, but there's a small list of things that I would like to see fixed/removed for the sequel. Crap like the Bed of Chaos really has no place in this game; it's pure trial and error garbage. At least the (hidden) bonfire isn't placed too far away. :|

Just be thankful the fight doesn't behave like a "normal" boss fight would and reset completely between every death @__________@
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 06:38:05
September 17 2012 06:36 GMT
#1434
On September 17 2012 14:14 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 13:46 myopia wrote:
Yeah Dark Souls has got to be one of the ten or so best games I've ever played, but there's a small list of things that I would like to see fixed/removed for the sequel. Crap like the Bed of Chaos really has no place in this game; it's pure trial and error garbage. At least the (hidden) bonfire isn't placed too far away. :|

Just be thankful the fight doesn't behave like a "normal" boss fight would and reset completely between every death @__________@

That would be sadistic given the non native ability to use save states and requires running all the way back if you die though the same enemies.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
September 17 2012 08:29 GMT
#1435
On September 17 2012 15:36 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 14:14 Duka08 wrote:
On September 17 2012 13:46 myopia wrote:
Yeah Dark Souls has got to be one of the ten or so best games I've ever played, but there's a small list of things that I would like to see fixed/removed for the sequel. Crap like the Bed of Chaos really has no place in this game; it's pure trial and error garbage. At least the (hidden) bonfire isn't placed too far away. :|

Just be thankful the fight doesn't behave like a "normal" boss fight would and reset completely between every death @__________@

That would be sadistic given the non native ability to use save states and requires running all the way back if you die though the same enemies.

That's the point of the game, it would suck ass if it had save states. It's supposed to be punishing, to make you not want to die, unlike games with save states or lack of punishment when dying (prince of persia 360), where you just die over and over until you complete something.

When you have save states, there's no such thing as "difficult".

Also, beating bed of chaos on one try is not actually all that hard, I was pretty close the first time I did the boss.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 12:57:07
September 17 2012 11:33 GMT
#1436
About to go fucking insane. I have been stuck on Ornstein and Smough for hours. I've gotten to the second phase and have had Smough at 50%, but I always die to some bullshit. I read that killing Lautrec gives you some humanity, so I tried to kill him for another few hours to no success. The worst thing is having to run all the fucking way back.

Edit: I finally killed Lautrec, but I died in the process. Just as I dealt the killing blow I was hit by the mage's spell. Luckily, I got the reward.

Edit: Also beat Ornstein and Smough with the help of another player, he was pretty damn good, thank god.
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 14:12:15
September 17 2012 14:11 GMT
#1437
On September 17 2012 20:33 Animzor wrote:
About to go fucking insane. I have been stuck on Ornstein and Smough for hours. I've gotten to the second phase and have had Smough at 50%, but I always die to some bullshit. I read that killing Lautrec gives you some humanity, so I tried to kill him for another few hours to no success. The worst thing is having to run all the fucking way back.

Edit: I finally killed Lautrec, but I died in the process. Just as I dealt the killing blow I was hit by the mage's spell. Luckily, I got the reward.

Edit: Also beat Ornstein and Smough with the help of another player, he was pretty damn good, thank god.


Hmm, dunno what your setup was, or the PC spells. But on console that fight is ridiculously easy if you abuse (Crystal) Homing Soul Mass. In fact, most things in the game get raped by it.. So, spoil your own fun at your own discretion .
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
September 17 2012 14:22 GMT
#1438
Yeah I read a bunch of guides that abused different things, magic and ranged weapons mostly. Unfortunately, I don't really have any spells and my crossbow is shit. I ended up using a lightning spear and a greatshield. I poked Lautrec to death while walking backwards up the staircase.
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
September 17 2012 14:42 GMT
#1439
On September 17 2012 09:41 semantics wrote:
da fuck is this!
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The Hydra is a funny boss. I ran to the bottom of darkroot basin for the first time and drew some of the ridiculous range attacks while fighting a crystal golem and it gives the impression of this super hard, big, badass boss thing out at the edge of vision range and furthermore obscured by trees that I want nothing to do with. Then much later I decide it is time to man up and go see what it is about and it is a fairly simple and easy fight.

I agree on the bed of chaos being a poorly designed fight. It easily forces you to 'exploit' the fact that it has that unique behavior of not resetting the fight when you leave/die, seeing as if you die after having completed a phase then there you are; it's been exploited. Making it worse is the extremely high probability of dying on at least one of the transitions, 2->3 with the final state of the thrashing behavior while needing to get back from a side to the middle, particularly since it isn't like it is something you can practice seeing as once you get hit once you've died and then you have effectively been teleported back to the middle as was your goal.
Caryc
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany330 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 05:31:25
September 17 2012 14:51 GMT
#1440
why is no1 playing pvp? or is it just me? i dont get anyone in arena and only can invade a few times in city of olacile (there seems to be no1 in kiln :/)

edit2 : pc version!
edit :
or are ppl still using lvl 120-125? because im 90,which might be a reason.
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