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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
September 15 2012 21:08 GMT
#1381
On September 16 2012 06:04 myopia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:47 semantics wrote:
accidentally arrgoed the blacksmith while i was dicking around. Worst part is i can't even kill him mofo is tuff and fast

You really, really do not want to kill him. Get your sins absolved by the priest that appears in the gargoyle belltower, and hostile NPC's will forgive you.

I aggroed 2 characters, first, the knight right outside sen's fortress, and then, when I went to pay to absolve my sins, I aggroed the priest T_T

Sucky PC confusing controls
DrGreen
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland708 Posts
September 15 2012 21:17 GMT
#1382
On September 16 2012 06:02 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:51 DrGreen wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:56 Shatter wrote:
On September 16 2012 01:12 DrGreen wrote:
So I started playing like yesterday, played few hours and I'm not really sure what to think.
Obviously I'm really early into the game, but I chose to play Thief, got to level 14 (still in the first fortress area, didn't kill the boss on the wall yet) [I took a health ring for starter item coz it said it gives hp REGEN, it doesnt, I'm mad]

So basically I like the idea of huge bosses, redoing areas after death etc. But I feel like the game is telling me to stay on those Undead guys forever (or at least for too long). Even those skeletons in the starting area are almost impossible to kill when normal undeads are dying in 2 hits. Not even talking about the guy in the dungeon when you go outside the fortress (who just one hits me if I don't dodge, but I guess it's how it should be), or the Sauron guy near the blue ring.

I feel like the only thing I can do is dodge and land few hits every now and then (and firebombs, cool). I can do that in Diablo too. Sure I can use shield vs lesser guys but I'm a frikkin thief. I don't feel like I have enough mechanics to use to gain advantage over my enemies. Also killing harder monsters would be fine if you didn't need to repeat it every time you die. Maybe I just need to farm a lot more?
Do you actually get some better moves as the game goes on? Is the game getting better with time?

And all the minor technical things like not-smooth-at-all camera(which makes your head hurt after couple of hours) or mouse cursor not hidden (have to use 3rd party to hide it)

Please someone convince me to play
Don't get too hung up on the fact that you started as a thief. Starting classes really mean nothing other than the stats and gear you begin with. Do not think that you are going to be able to run up and backstab every enemy in the game because it won't work. What build you are going for is not going to really matter until you get to a higher level. For starting out, I would just get the minimum stats to use your weapon and shield and then get some vitality and endurance. As you level up, you can then later start putting points in int/faith/melee centric stats as you wish.


I noticed that. I'm running around with a sword (holding it in 2 hands, cause I don't give a single fuck about shields, lol)
I just want a better weapon...

Give a fuck about shields, it makes the game ten times easier.


But... but... It's against my way of life.
"Miecz i Magia, nie potrzebna mi jest tarcza"
aka
"Sword and Magic, I ain't need no shield"

Well.. I may use one when I will feel it's appropriate
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
September 15 2012 21:34 GMT
#1383
On September 16 2012 06:17 DrGreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 06:02 solidbebe wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:51 DrGreen wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:56 Shatter wrote:
On September 16 2012 01:12 DrGreen wrote:
So I started playing like yesterday, played few hours and I'm not really sure what to think.
Obviously I'm really early into the game, but I chose to play Thief, got to level 14 (still in the first fortress area, didn't kill the boss on the wall yet) [I took a health ring for starter item coz it said it gives hp REGEN, it doesnt, I'm mad]

So basically I like the idea of huge bosses, redoing areas after death etc. But I feel like the game is telling me to stay on those Undead guys forever (or at least for too long). Even those skeletons in the starting area are almost impossible to kill when normal undeads are dying in 2 hits. Not even talking about the guy in the dungeon when you go outside the fortress (who just one hits me if I don't dodge, but I guess it's how it should be), or the Sauron guy near the blue ring.

I feel like the only thing I can do is dodge and land few hits every now and then (and firebombs, cool). I can do that in Diablo too. Sure I can use shield vs lesser guys but I'm a frikkin thief. I don't feel like I have enough mechanics to use to gain advantage over my enemies. Also killing harder monsters would be fine if you didn't need to repeat it every time you die. Maybe I just need to farm a lot more?
Do you actually get some better moves as the game goes on? Is the game getting better with time?

And all the minor technical things like not-smooth-at-all camera(which makes your head hurt after couple of hours) or mouse cursor not hidden (have to use 3rd party to hide it)

Please someone convince me to play
Don't get too hung up on the fact that you started as a thief. Starting classes really mean nothing other than the stats and gear you begin with. Do not think that you are going to be able to run up and backstab every enemy in the game because it won't work. What build you are going for is not going to really matter until you get to a higher level. For starting out, I would just get the minimum stats to use your weapon and shield and then get some vitality and endurance. As you level up, you can then later start putting points in int/faith/melee centric stats as you wish.


I noticed that. I'm running around with a sword (holding it in 2 hands, cause I don't give a single fuck about shields, lol)
I just want a better weapon...

Give a fuck about shields, it makes the game ten times easier.


But... but... It's against my way of life.
"Miecz i Magia, nie potrzebna mi jest tarcza"
aka
"Sword and Magic, I ain't need no shield"

Well.. I may use one when I will feel it's appropriate

I can't imagine ever defeating any tough boss without a shield LOL, hell, even dogs will rape me without a shield
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
September 15 2012 21:37 GMT
#1384
On September 16 2012 06:34 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 06:17 DrGreen wrote:
On September 16 2012 06:02 solidbebe wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:51 DrGreen wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:56 Shatter wrote:
On September 16 2012 01:12 DrGreen wrote:
So I started playing like yesterday, played few hours and I'm not really sure what to think.
Obviously I'm really early into the game, but I chose to play Thief, got to level 14 (still in the first fortress area, didn't kill the boss on the wall yet) [I took a health ring for starter item coz it said it gives hp REGEN, it doesnt, I'm mad]

So basically I like the idea of huge bosses, redoing areas after death etc. But I feel like the game is telling me to stay on those Undead guys forever (or at least for too long). Even those skeletons in the starting area are almost impossible to kill when normal undeads are dying in 2 hits. Not even talking about the guy in the dungeon when you go outside the fortress (who just one hits me if I don't dodge, but I guess it's how it should be), or the Sauron guy near the blue ring.

I feel like the only thing I can do is dodge and land few hits every now and then (and firebombs, cool). I can do that in Diablo too. Sure I can use shield vs lesser guys but I'm a frikkin thief. I don't feel like I have enough mechanics to use to gain advantage over my enemies. Also killing harder monsters would be fine if you didn't need to repeat it every time you die. Maybe I just need to farm a lot more?
Do you actually get some better moves as the game goes on? Is the game getting better with time?

And all the minor technical things like not-smooth-at-all camera(which makes your head hurt after couple of hours) or mouse cursor not hidden (have to use 3rd party to hide it)

Please someone convince me to play
Don't get too hung up on the fact that you started as a thief. Starting classes really mean nothing other than the stats and gear you begin with. Do not think that you are going to be able to run up and backstab every enemy in the game because it won't work. What build you are going for is not going to really matter until you get to a higher level. For starting out, I would just get the minimum stats to use your weapon and shield and then get some vitality and endurance. As you level up, you can then later start putting points in int/faith/melee centric stats as you wish.


I noticed that. I'm running around with a sword (holding it in 2 hands, cause I don't give a single fuck about shields, lol)
I just want a better weapon...

Give a fuck about shields, it makes the game ten times easier.


But... but... It's against my way of life.
"Miecz i Magia, nie potrzebna mi jest tarcza"
aka
"Sword and Magic, I ain't need no shield"

Well.. I may use one when I will feel it's appropriate

I can't imagine ever defeating any tough boss without a shield LOL, hell, even dogs will rape me without a shield

Its possible but incredibly tedious, I dont think anyone who's used a shield in dark souls would ever consider ditching it.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 22:02:02
September 15 2012 21:55 GMT
#1385
On September 16 2012 06:37 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 06:34 mordk wrote:
On September 16 2012 06:17 DrGreen wrote:
On September 16 2012 06:02 solidbebe wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:51 DrGreen wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:56 Shatter wrote:
On September 16 2012 01:12 DrGreen wrote:
So I started playing like yesterday, played few hours and I'm not really sure what to think.
Obviously I'm really early into the game, but I chose to play Thief, got to level 14 (still in the first fortress area, didn't kill the boss on the wall yet) [I took a health ring for starter item coz it said it gives hp REGEN, it doesnt, I'm mad]

So basically I like the idea of huge bosses, redoing areas after death etc. But I feel like the game is telling me to stay on those Undead guys forever (or at least for too long). Even those skeletons in the starting area are almost impossible to kill when normal undeads are dying in 2 hits. Not even talking about the guy in the dungeon when you go outside the fortress (who just one hits me if I don't dodge, but I guess it's how it should be), or the Sauron guy near the blue ring.

I feel like the only thing I can do is dodge and land few hits every now and then (and firebombs, cool). I can do that in Diablo too. Sure I can use shield vs lesser guys but I'm a frikkin thief. I don't feel like I have enough mechanics to use to gain advantage over my enemies. Also killing harder monsters would be fine if you didn't need to repeat it every time you die. Maybe I just need to farm a lot more?
Do you actually get some better moves as the game goes on? Is the game getting better with time?

And all the minor technical things like not-smooth-at-all camera(which makes your head hurt after couple of hours) or mouse cursor not hidden (have to use 3rd party to hide it)

Please someone convince me to play
Don't get too hung up on the fact that you started as a thief. Starting classes really mean nothing other than the stats and gear you begin with. Do not think that you are going to be able to run up and backstab every enemy in the game because it won't work. What build you are going for is not going to really matter until you get to a higher level. For starting out, I would just get the minimum stats to use your weapon and shield and then get some vitality and endurance. As you level up, you can then later start putting points in int/faith/melee centric stats as you wish.


I noticed that. I'm running around with a sword (holding it in 2 hands, cause I don't give a single fuck about shields, lol)
I just want a better weapon...

Give a fuck about shields, it makes the game ten times easier.


But... but... It's against my way of life.
"Miecz i Magia, nie potrzebna mi jest tarcza"
aka
"Sword and Magic, I ain't need no shield"

Well.. I may use one when I will feel it's appropriate

I can't imagine ever defeating any tough boss without a shield LOL, hell, even dogs will rape me without a shield

Its possible but incredibly tedious, I dont think anyone who's used a shield in dark souls would ever consider ditching it.


Dodge>Shield. No, really, it is. Dodge is OP. It actually makes all the bosses easier for me, blocking will drain a ton of stamina and blockstun, making it quite risky to block a boss at times. Especially the goddamn Bed of Chaos, blocking that is almost always suicide, whereas dodge rolling makes you roll through the arms. The only time I use a shield anymore is when I want to parry, or when I want high deflection from eagle shield/other greatshield.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 21:58:59
September 15 2012 21:58 GMT
#1386
On September 16 2012 06:08 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 06:04 myopia wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:47 semantics wrote:
accidentally arrgoed the blacksmith while i was dicking around. Worst part is i can't even kill him mofo is tuff and fast

You really, really do not want to kill him. Get your sins absolved by the priest that appears in the gargoyle belltower, and hostile NPC's will forgive you.

I aggroed 2 characters, first, the knight right outside sen's fortress, and then, when I went to pay to absolve my sins, I aggroed the priest T_T

Sucky PC confusing controls


Ouch, the one guy you can't aggro and get away with it. If the blacksmith you aggroed is Andre in the parish, I'd honestly just restart a new game.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 22:08:14
September 15 2012 22:05 GMT
#1387
Shields are useless for some builds to be honest. Nice to have against small fry, but against boss you are better of dodging like Fyrewolf said. Some bosses are ridiculously easy to dodge by the way, it's kind of funny but lately I've been having more trouble getting to the bosses than actually dealing with them.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
September 15 2012 22:06 GMT
#1388
On September 16 2012 06:55 Fyrewolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 06:37 solidbebe wrote:
On September 16 2012 06:34 mordk wrote:
On September 16 2012 06:17 DrGreen wrote:
On September 16 2012 06:02 solidbebe wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:51 DrGreen wrote:
On September 16 2012 04:56 Shatter wrote:
On September 16 2012 01:12 DrGreen wrote:
So I started playing like yesterday, played few hours and I'm not really sure what to think.
Obviously I'm really early into the game, but I chose to play Thief, got to level 14 (still in the first fortress area, didn't kill the boss on the wall yet) [I took a health ring for starter item coz it said it gives hp REGEN, it doesnt, I'm mad]

So basically I like the idea of huge bosses, redoing areas after death etc. But I feel like the game is telling me to stay on those Undead guys forever (or at least for too long). Even those skeletons in the starting area are almost impossible to kill when normal undeads are dying in 2 hits. Not even talking about the guy in the dungeon when you go outside the fortress (who just one hits me if I don't dodge, but I guess it's how it should be), or the Sauron guy near the blue ring.

I feel like the only thing I can do is dodge and land few hits every now and then (and firebombs, cool). I can do that in Diablo too. Sure I can use shield vs lesser guys but I'm a frikkin thief. I don't feel like I have enough mechanics to use to gain advantage over my enemies. Also killing harder monsters would be fine if you didn't need to repeat it every time you die. Maybe I just need to farm a lot more?
Do you actually get some better moves as the game goes on? Is the game getting better with time?

And all the minor technical things like not-smooth-at-all camera(which makes your head hurt after couple of hours) or mouse cursor not hidden (have to use 3rd party to hide it)

Please someone convince me to play
Don't get too hung up on the fact that you started as a thief. Starting classes really mean nothing other than the stats and gear you begin with. Do not think that you are going to be able to run up and backstab every enemy in the game because it won't work. What build you are going for is not going to really matter until you get to a higher level. For starting out, I would just get the minimum stats to use your weapon and shield and then get some vitality and endurance. As you level up, you can then later start putting points in int/faith/melee centric stats as you wish.


I noticed that. I'm running around with a sword (holding it in 2 hands, cause I don't give a single fuck about shields, lol)
I just want a better weapon...

Give a fuck about shields, it makes the game ten times easier.


But... but... It's against my way of life.
"Miecz i Magia, nie potrzebna mi jest tarcza"
aka
"Sword and Magic, I ain't need no shield"

Well.. I may use one when I will feel it's appropriate

I can't imagine ever defeating any tough boss without a shield LOL, hell, even dogs will rape me without a shield

Its possible but incredibly tedious, I dont think anyone who's used a shield in dark souls would ever consider ditching it.


Dodge>Shield. No, really, it is. Dodge is OP. It actually makes all the bosses easier for me, blocking will drain a ton of stamina and blockstun, making it quite risky to block a boss at times. Especially the goddamn Bed of Chaos, blocking that is almost always suicide, whereas dodge rolling makes you roll through the arms. The only time I use a shield anymore is when I want to parry, or when I want high deflection from eagle shield/other greatshield.

Oh right I had forgotten about dodging. My char wears full stone armor though so hes kinda slow and more tanky, for me a not having a shield is just undoable, I can barely dodge anything.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
September 15 2012 22:11 GMT
#1389
On September 16 2012 06:08 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 06:04 myopia wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:47 semantics wrote:
accidentally arrgoed the blacksmith while i was dicking around. Worst part is i can't even kill him mofo is tuff and fast

You really, really do not want to kill him. Get your sins absolved by the priest that appears in the gargoyle belltower, and hostile NPC's will forgive you.

I aggroed 2 characters, first, the knight right outside sen's fortress, and then, when I went to pay to absolve my sins, I aggroed the priest T_T

Sucky PC confusing controls

sounds like something i would do roll into the guy and aggro him and just sad face
Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
September 15 2012 22:13 GMT
#1390
I play with <25% equip load and still use a shield. Dodging is a lot of the times better but on some parts, you don't want to accidently roll off the edge or roll close to the edge and get hit off. Plus I use the grass crest shield, so it gives a really nice bonus even if its only on your back.
tyner
Profile Joined August 2012
176 Posts
September 15 2012 22:59 GMT
#1391
On September 16 2012 05:47 semantics wrote:
accidentally arrgoed the blacksmith while i was dicking around. Worst part is i can't even kill him mofo is tuff and fast


I also accidently attacked that priest guy in firelink shrine at the beginning of the game and had to kill him. Then when that girl and her companions showed up they instantly aggroed me and had to kill em too
Is there anyway to learn the healing spells other than him?
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 15 2012 23:02 GMT
#1392
Dodging does require more skill than merely taking a hit on the shield, so for beginners good shield is better choice, but as you improve in the game, you will probably start dodging more, rather than blocking. Lately I've started just wielding with 2h against bosses and evading their attacks.

Had a lot of troubles with Quelaag with my pyro as she is immune to fire. Had a help from Mildred and one other guy, they both died but I managed to finish her off.
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
September 15 2012 23:11 GMT
#1393
Holy smack-a-baboon, I just finished the fight with Artorias, motherfucker kept killing me till I finally decided to just grab a Zweihander and charge right into him

To my pleasant surprise, that actually worked.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 16 2012 03:25 GMT
#1394
This game is bad and this is why.



Ok lets see how long you can make it through without laughing or face palming.
twitch.tv/medrea
Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 03:35:23
September 16 2012 03:34 GMT
#1395
On September 16 2012 12:25 Medrea wrote:
This game is bad and this is why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JplWWFtkdjY&list=UUR3DTFdJ7Is40OT7WwTN6yA&index=3&feature=plcp

Ok lets see how long you can make it through without laughing or face palming.
This guy has to be trolling. No way someone could be this dumb.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 03:39:46
September 16 2012 03:38 GMT
#1396
Check out his other video's. Like this one.



Still in the tutorial place!

He had to cheat to get past the first boss because he doesnt know how to equip weapons or something.
twitch.tv/medrea
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
September 16 2012 03:57 GMT
#1397
Yeah he's definately trolling, look at his fraps issue video

Though he's consistant in the nature of his complaints, in that is usually has to do with wording, or small things that don't matter. (like in this video he complains that fraps picks up his "frontmic", and the mic is plugged into the back of his computer, so it cound't possibly be picking up a front mic. lolol)
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
September 16 2012 04:06 GMT
#1398
On September 16 2012 12:25 Medrea wrote:
This game is bad and this is why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JplWWFtkdjY&list=UUR3DTFdJ7Is40OT7WwTN6yA&index=3&feature=plcp

Ok lets see how long you can make it through without laughing or face palming.


I made it about 3 minutes before I closed it because of the idiotic nature. "I can't select what's not there." While talking about equipping items. When at the bottom of the menu it says "A: Enter". Lololol.
anatase
Profile Joined May 2010
France532 Posts
September 16 2012 04:23 GMT
#1399
such an awesome troll.

Yet care about the very bad publicity such a retard video could make on such an amazing and skillful game.

Like in the first video, at the beginning he firsts complain about the pseudo-tutorial. While so-called AAA games have shitball tutorial, you actually have to learn in Dark Souls, and this is a reason why the game is so great.

I just cannot not think that some stupid teenager will actually take this video for serious while i am pretty sure it's all sarcasm towards the AAA mainstream games.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 06:03:25
September 16 2012 05:43 GMT
#1400
I think he just has autism.

EDIT:

I have a new stream going up.

http://www.twitch.tv/medrea/b/332354512

I just perfected full 30 FPS streaming with this game. Anyone like my webcam?

Ill start streaming tomorrow.
twitch.tv/medrea
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