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Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 04:09:03
September 07 2012 03:13 GMT
#1061
Wow, I actually got logged out of online play because of framerate errors in blighttown(probably because I have the res mod dof set to 1080, but this is the first time it happened and I'd been there at least 10+ times already, this comp is brand new and wasn't playing for long today either). That's new, the ps3 version never did anything like that, and I saw the framerate on ps3 get way worse in blighttown than what mine just was. Guess I should turn that down a notch.

Edit: It did it again even after turning it down. wtf.
Edit2: and after a 2nd restart of ds the framerate is suddenly totally fine. wtf.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 04:42:04
September 07 2012 04:41 GMT
#1062
On September 07 2012 08:47 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I heard the PC port isn't so great :/
Other than that the game looks really interesting!


i'm playing the PC version and have never played the console versions nor do I generally like single player games. Having said that, i'm pretty addicted the game is hard and a challenge in all of the right ways. You just need a controller and ezpz. I bought a razer onza on the way home from work and haven't looked back.



also can someone explain what you can/can't do as coop? im trying to convince a friend to buy the game but im not sure what the coop really entails.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 04:58:27
September 07 2012 04:48 GMT
#1063
it's taking foreverrrr to get 10 sun medals, I'm averaging maybe 1 summoning per hour sitting next to the boss door. It doesn't help that getting to the iron golem and smoughornstein fires makes your sign dissappear, so I can't even efficiently farm dudes for titanite while waiting.
it's my first day
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
September 07 2012 04:50 GMT
#1064
On September 07 2012 13:41 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 08:47 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I heard the PC port isn't so great :/
Other than that the game looks really interesting!


i'm playing the PC version and have never played the console versions nor do I generally like single player games. Having said that, i'm pretty addicted the game is hard and a challenge in all of the right ways. You just need a controller and ezpz. I bought a razer onza on the way home from work and haven't looked back.



also can someone explain what you can/can't do as coop? im trying to convince a friend to buy the game but im not sure what the coop really entails.


Co op is basically you help him kill bosses. You can help him through entire maps as well if you want. But you'd need to resummon him after boss fights. You can literally play the entire game together (just put the summon sign down in weird places so no one else sees it.). You'll also be invaded while playing as co op though so you'll get to fight pcs as well as npcs.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
September 07 2012 05:06 GMT
#1065
On September 07 2012 13:48 myopia wrote:
it's taking foreverrrr to get 10 sun medals, I'm averaging maybe 1 summoning per hour sitting next to the boss door. It doesn't help that getting to the iron golem and smoughornstein fires makes your sign dissappear, so I can't even efficiently farm dudes for titanite while waiting.

just put your sign right next to the anor londo bonfire that is inside the actual castle, and farm the 4 silver knights there while you wait. works good for me
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 05:58:13
September 07 2012 05:57 GMT
#1066
On September 07 2012 13:41 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 08:47 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I heard the PC port isn't so great :/
Other than that the game looks really interesting!


i'm playing the PC version and have never played the console versions nor do I generally like single player games. Having said that, i'm pretty addicted the game is hard and a challenge in all of the right ways. You just need a controller and ezpz. I bought a razer onza on the way home from work and haven't looked back.



also can someone explain what you can/can't do as coop? im trying to convince a friend to buy the game but im not sure what the coop really entails.


You can do everything in the game co-op, except maybe the arena(idk). The trick is just getting to summon the right guy. You have to tell your buddy where you dropped your sign, which should be somewhere others won't summon him first, and then also replace it every 2 min or so to cycle it through servers until he sees it.

Once you've summoned a phantom, you can go anywhere in the game and do anything, but they dissapear if they help you beat a boss, and get some souls and a soft/loose humanity(and a sunlight medal if you also summon a sunbro, even if it's just solaire).

Of course, just going to darkroot or the kiln of the first flame and pvping with him by your side will be very fun on its own.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 06:15:32
September 07 2012 06:05 GMT
#1067
On September 07 2012 13:48 myopia wrote:
it's taking foreverrrr to get 10 sun medals, I'm averaging maybe 1 summoning per hour sitting next to the boss door. It doesn't help that getting to the iron golem and smoughornstein fires makes your sign dissappear, so I can't even efficiently farm dudes for titanite while waiting.


There's also an enemy that drops sunlight medals which is usally faster(souveneirs of reprisal and eyes of death are also farmable). + Show Spoiler +
The non-attacking bugs in the Demon Ruins->Lost Izalith shortcut, just before the Demon Firesage boss room. The door can only be opened from the other side, unless you are chaos servant +2. There are a couple bugs on both sides, but it's best to open it, as the one respawning titanite demon is shortly after to farm demon titanite, and also past that are chaos eater enemies to farm red titanite slabs from(each slab type only drop rarely from 1 enemy each, regular and red are alright to farm, but white and blue are just a pain).
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
September 07 2012 06:51 GMT
#1068
On September 07 2012 14:57 Fyrewolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 13:41 crms wrote:
On September 07 2012 08:47 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I heard the PC port isn't so great :/
Other than that the game looks really interesting!


i'm playing the PC version and have never played the console versions nor do I generally like single player games. Having said that, i'm pretty addicted the game is hard and a challenge in all of the right ways. You just need a controller and ezpz. I bought a razer onza on the way home from work and haven't looked back.



also can someone explain what you can/can't do as coop? im trying to convince a friend to buy the game but im not sure what the coop really entails.


You can do everything in the game co-op, except maybe the arena(idk). The trick is just getting to summon the right guy. You have to tell your buddy where you dropped your sign, which should be somewhere others won't summon him first, and then also replace it every 2 min or so to cycle it through servers until he sees it.

Once you've summoned a phantom, you can go anywhere in the game and do anything, but they dissapear if they help you beat a boss, and get some souls and a soft/loose humanity(and a sunlight medal if you also summon a sunbro, even if it's just solaire).

Of course, just going to darkroot or the kiln of the first flame and pvping with him by your side will be very fun on its own.

You can't really go anywhere though, you're locked in by white walls when you're a phantom. For example, I was summoned in the undead burg to help beat the Taurus demon, and when we ran past the shortcut down to the lower undead burg, it had a fog-gate covering it.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
September 07 2012 06:55 GMT
#1069
On September 07 2012 03:37 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 03:23 solidbebe wrote:
On September 07 2012 03:20 crms wrote:
On September 07 2012 02:36 Duka08 wrote:
On September 07 2012 01:41 crms wrote:
On September 07 2012 01:37 myopia wrote:
On September 07 2012 00:54 crms wrote:
(seems like some ghost appears at certain points to guide you?)

These ghosts are actually other players currently exploring the same area. Touch bloodstains and you'll see how they die. It's a really cool effect IMO.



holy shit!! that's awesome, thanks for the explanation.

Additionally, the orange wood/chalk writings on the ground are from other players (well, once you get out of the asylum, which you have). If that wasn't already painfully obvious from how trolly some are. Some are amusing, some are random, but some can be very helpful, revealing hidden paths or enemies. Keep an eye out.

What you mentioned about having no idea where to go does indeed happen a few times throughout the game. But honestly the most I was ever lost was after I first landed at Firelink. Once you get into undead burg the game is fairly straightforward if you pay attention to cutscenes/NPCs well enough. Don't be afraid to 'Talk' to anyone you run into.



yes, I realized those are play written after a few troll messages. I did waste about 5-10 minutes searching for the 'hidden ring ahead' ~_~

lol, this game is addicting I want to get off work and play!

Yeah I think youd be better off doing exactly the opposite of what all the messages say. Quite frequently I find messages advising me to use exactly the wrong type of fighting style to use vs a specific boss, dem troll meng dem trolls...

The only "real" usefulness I find out of them anymore is, as I mentioned, a couple laying in front of hidden areas/fade walls on subsequent playthroughs. I still read almost all I happen to pass over though, out of habit. They can be quite funny.


My experience has been rather the opposite funny enough. Some of the messages saved me quite a few times especially a certain "jump off here" message.
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
September 07 2012 07:01 GMT
#1070
On September 07 2012 15:51 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 14:57 Fyrewolf wrote:
On September 07 2012 13:41 crms wrote:
On September 07 2012 08:47 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I heard the PC port isn't so great :/
Other than that the game looks really interesting!


i'm playing the PC version and have never played the console versions nor do I generally like single player games. Having said that, i'm pretty addicted the game is hard and a challenge in all of the right ways. You just need a controller and ezpz. I bought a razer onza on the way home from work and haven't looked back.



also can someone explain what you can/can't do as coop? im trying to convince a friend to buy the game but im not sure what the coop really entails.


You can do everything in the game co-op, except maybe the arena(idk). The trick is just getting to summon the right guy. You have to tell your buddy where you dropped your sign, which should be somewhere others won't summon him first, and then also replace it every 2 min or so to cycle it through servers until he sees it.

Once you've summoned a phantom, you can go anywhere in the game and do anything, but they dissapear if they help you beat a boss, and get some souls and a soft/loose humanity(and a sunlight medal if you also summon a sunbro, even if it's just solaire).

Of course, just going to darkroot or the kiln of the first flame and pvping with him by your side will be very fun on its own.

You can't really go anywhere though, you're locked in by white walls when you're a phantom. For example, I was summoned in the undead burg to help beat the Taurus demon, and when we ran past the shortcut down to the lower undead burg, it had a fog-gate covering it.


Yeah, I should have clarified for that area, having to resummon all the time is really annoying. I wish they would have let you party with friends to make summoning them easier.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Teddyman
Profile Joined October 2008
Finland362 Posts
September 07 2012 08:17 GMT
#1071
On September 07 2012 03:37 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 03:23 solidbebe wrote:
On September 07 2012 03:20 crms wrote:
On September 07 2012 02:36 Duka08 wrote:
On September 07 2012 01:41 crms wrote:
On September 07 2012 01:37 myopia wrote:
On September 07 2012 00:54 crms wrote:
(seems like some ghost appears at certain points to guide you?)

These ghosts are actually other players currently exploring the same area. Touch bloodstains and you'll see how they die. It's a really cool effect IMO.



holy shit!! that's awesome, thanks for the explanation.

Additionally, the orange wood/chalk writings on the ground are from other players (well, once you get out of the asylum, which you have). If that wasn't already painfully obvious from how trolly some are. Some are amusing, some are random, but some can be very helpful, revealing hidden paths or enemies. Keep an eye out.

What you mentioned about having no idea where to go does indeed happen a few times throughout the game. But honestly the most I was ever lost was after I first landed at Firelink. Once you get into undead burg the game is fairly straightforward if you pay attention to cutscenes/NPCs well enough. Don't be afraid to 'Talk' to anyone you run into.



yes, I realized those are play written after a few troll messages. I did waste about 5-10 minutes searching for the 'hidden ring ahead' ~_~

lol, this game is addicting I want to get off work and play!

Yeah I think youd be better off doing exactly the opposite of what all the messages say. Quite frequently I find messages advising me to use exactly the wrong type of fighting style to use vs a specific boss, dem troll meng dem trolls...

The only "real" usefulness I find out of them anymore is, as I mentioned, a couple laying in front of hidden areas/fade walls on subsequent playthroughs. I still read almost all I happen to pass over though, out of habit. They can be quite funny.

The best one is after the Anor Londo boss encounter but before you enter the next chamber.

"Be wary of amazing chest"
"Chess is a dead game" -Bobby Fischer 2004
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
September 07 2012 08:37 GMT
#1072
On September 07 2012 17:17 Teddyman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 03:37 Duka08 wrote:
On September 07 2012 03:23 solidbebe wrote:
On September 07 2012 03:20 crms wrote:
On September 07 2012 02:36 Duka08 wrote:
On September 07 2012 01:41 crms wrote:
On September 07 2012 01:37 myopia wrote:
On September 07 2012 00:54 crms wrote:
(seems like some ghost appears at certain points to guide you?)

These ghosts are actually other players currently exploring the same area. Touch bloodstains and you'll see how they die. It's a really cool effect IMO.



holy shit!! that's awesome, thanks for the explanation.

Additionally, the orange wood/chalk writings on the ground are from other players (well, once you get out of the asylum, which you have). If that wasn't already painfully obvious from how trolly some are. Some are amusing, some are random, but some can be very helpful, revealing hidden paths or enemies. Keep an eye out.

What you mentioned about having no idea where to go does indeed happen a few times throughout the game. But honestly the most I was ever lost was after I first landed at Firelink. Once you get into undead burg the game is fairly straightforward if you pay attention to cutscenes/NPCs well enough. Don't be afraid to 'Talk' to anyone you run into.



yes, I realized those are play written after a few troll messages. I did waste about 5-10 minutes searching for the 'hidden ring ahead' ~_~

lol, this game is addicting I want to get off work and play!

Yeah I think youd be better off doing exactly the opposite of what all the messages say. Quite frequently I find messages advising me to use exactly the wrong type of fighting style to use vs a specific boss, dem troll meng dem trolls...

The only "real" usefulness I find out of them anymore is, as I mentioned, a couple laying in front of hidden areas/fade walls on subsequent playthroughs. I still read almost all I happen to pass over though, out of habit. They can be quite funny.

The best one is after the Anor Londo boss encounter but before you enter the next chamber.

"Be wary of amazing chest"

I also love the "Fatty ahead" in front of Petrus.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
September 07 2012 08:52 GMT
#1073
the first day i played i thought all those messages on the ground were from the game itself (like in the tutorial area) and one of them said "try jumping" in undead burg, so i jumped off the cliff to my death lol
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
September 07 2012 14:39 GMT
#1074
holy shit, the game just arrived. I got a poster, an art book and a bunch of art postcards. Never expected for the normal package to be so rich. Well dont namco, well done!

Its sad actually that im so surprised by this, but at this day and age usually all i get is the cd and nothing more.
i can upload a few pics if youre interested
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
September 07 2012 16:03 GMT
#1075
On September 07 2012 17:17 Teddyman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 03:37 Duka08 wrote:
On September 07 2012 03:23 solidbebe wrote:
On September 07 2012 03:20 crms wrote:
On September 07 2012 02:36 Duka08 wrote:
On September 07 2012 01:41 crms wrote:
On September 07 2012 01:37 myopia wrote:
On September 07 2012 00:54 crms wrote:
(seems like some ghost appears at certain points to guide you?)

These ghosts are actually other players currently exploring the same area. Touch bloodstains and you'll see how they die. It's a really cool effect IMO.



holy shit!! that's awesome, thanks for the explanation.

Additionally, the orange wood/chalk writings on the ground are from other players (well, once you get out of the asylum, which you have). If that wasn't already painfully obvious from how trolly some are. Some are amusing, some are random, but some can be very helpful, revealing hidden paths or enemies. Keep an eye out.

What you mentioned about having no idea where to go does indeed happen a few times throughout the game. But honestly the most I was ever lost was after I first landed at Firelink. Once you get into undead burg the game is fairly straightforward if you pay attention to cutscenes/NPCs well enough. Don't be afraid to 'Talk' to anyone you run into.



yes, I realized those are play written after a few troll messages. I did waste about 5-10 minutes searching for the 'hidden ring ahead' ~_~

lol, this game is addicting I want to get off work and play!

Yeah I think youd be better off doing exactly the opposite of what all the messages say. Quite frequently I find messages advising me to use exactly the wrong type of fighting style to use vs a specific boss, dem troll meng dem trolls...

The only "real" usefulness I find out of them anymore is, as I mentioned, a couple laying in front of hidden areas/fade walls on subsequent playthroughs. I still read almost all I happen to pass over though, out of habit. They can be quite funny.

The best one is after the Anor Londo boss encounter but before you enter the next chamber.

"Be wary of amazing chest"


Followed by:

"Try holding with both hands."
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
September 07 2012 16:18 GMT
#1076
I am like atrociously bad at this game. I think it's because I'm using a controller for the first time in 12+ years and i haven't played a console game since PS2. Or, the game is just really hard!

I only got to play for about 1h30m last night but i made no progress, just souls and levels. I got owned like 4-5 times by the big centaur boss in undead area, and the black knight guy like 4-5 times as well.

I'm having a hard time using my special attacks.

leap attack
kick

specifically. I tried to read how to do it online but I'm either awful or it's really difficult. I also just learned you can jump last night after 4 hours playing. ~_~
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
September 07 2012 16:31 GMT
#1077
I watched a streamer yesterday beat the Gargoyles after 13-14 hours of play which is barely ahead of the black knight/taurus demon so it's not exactly terrible to be at taurus demon after only 1h30 of play. He also had 900 viewers giving him help when he asked....so yeah...keep going, you're doing ok.
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
September 07 2012 16:34 GMT
#1078
On September 08 2012 01:18 crms wrote:
I am like atrociously bad at this game. I think it's because I'm using a controller for the first time in 12+ years and i haven't played a console game since PS2. Or, the game is just really hard!

I only got to play for about 1h30m last night but i made no progress, just souls and levels. I got owned like 4-5 times by the big centaur boss in undead area, and the black knight guy like 4-5 times as well.

I'm having a hard time using my special attacks.

leap attack
kick

specifically. I tried to read how to do it online but I'm either awful or it's really difficult. I also just learned you can jump last night after 4 hours playing. ~_~


Don't worry about it too much, there's definitely a learning curve. And you learn by dying, so it's really more of a dying curve. But after you die enough to figure out what you can and can't get away with, you start to get better. The starting areas are incredibly easy after your first playthrough, but the first time they can be some of the hardest because you're still figuring everything out. In short, you should be bad at first, just keep at it because you can get better and do it. Eventually.
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
Rayeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States883 Posts
September 07 2012 16:35 GMT
#1079
On September 08 2012 01:18 crms wrote:
I am like atrociously bad at this game. I think it's because I'm using a controller for the first time in 12+ years and i haven't played a console game since PS2. Or, the game is just really hard!

I only got to play for about 1h30m last night but i made no progress, just souls and levels. I got owned like 4-5 times by the big centaur boss in undead area, and the black knight guy like 4-5 times as well.

I'm having a hard time using my special attacks.

leap attack
kick

specifically. I tried to read how to do it online but I'm either awful or it's really difficult. I also just learned you can jump last night after 4 hours playing. ~_~


If it makes you feel better there are not many times you are REQUIRED to use those special attacks. You can play a style that doesn't need them at all. The kick is super helpful sometimes though, for enemies who turtle behind shields. I dunno what to tell you about controllers, but learning to do the attack + direction stuff (for kick etc) is pretty standard stuff in console land.
The Innocent shall suffer... big time.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
September 07 2012 16:41 GMT
#1080
On September 07 2012 16:01 Fyrewolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 15:51 Tobberoth wrote:
On September 07 2012 14:57 Fyrewolf wrote:
On September 07 2012 13:41 crms wrote:
On September 07 2012 08:47 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I heard the PC port isn't so great :/
Other than that the game looks really interesting!


i'm playing the PC version and have never played the console versions nor do I generally like single player games. Having said that, i'm pretty addicted the game is hard and a challenge in all of the right ways. You just need a controller and ezpz. I bought a razer onza on the way home from work and haven't looked back.



also can someone explain what you can/can't do as coop? im trying to convince a friend to buy the game but im not sure what the coop really entails.


You can do everything in the game co-op, except maybe the arena(idk). The trick is just getting to summon the right guy. You have to tell your buddy where you dropped your sign, which should be somewhere others won't summon him first, and then also replace it every 2 min or so to cycle it through servers until he sees it.

Once you've summoned a phantom, you can go anywhere in the game and do anything, but they dissapear if they help you beat a boss, and get some souls and a soft/loose humanity(and a sunlight medal if you also summon a sunbro, even if it's just solaire).

Of course, just going to darkroot or the kiln of the first flame and pvping with him by your side will be very fun on its own.

You can't really go anywhere though, you're locked in by white walls when you're a phantom. For example, I was summoned in the undead burg to help beat the Taurus demon, and when we ran past the shortcut down to the lower undead burg, it had a fog-gate covering it.


Yeah, I should have clarified for that area, having to resummon all the time is really annoying. I wish they would have let you party with friends to make summoning them easier.


The guy who summoned you can clear the white walls and you can continue along with him until the final boss of the area. I helped a lot of people clear through anor londo. Specially the two archber area. I know there's a white wall leading to the inside after that but the summoner should be able to open it.
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