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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
August 28 2012 03:35 GMT
#661
well crap, I just realized I wasted a fire keeper soul. It said 'use to reinforce estus flask', so I used it. Woooooo
it's my first day
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
August 28 2012 03:42 GMT
#662
On August 28 2012 12:35 myopia wrote:
well crap, I just realized I wasted a fire keeper soul. It said 'use to reinforce estus flask', so I used it. Woooooo

yeah you kinda have to read online about this game, they don't help you very much in-game lol
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
August 28 2012 03:45 GMT
#663
Apparently these things are really limited too. I kinda feel like starting over now, even though I've spent 5 hours on this character.
it's my first day
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
August 28 2012 03:46 GMT
#664
On August 28 2012 12:35 myopia wrote:
well crap, I just realized I wasted a fire keeper soul. It said 'use to reinforce estus flask', so I used it. Woooooo

What other use is there?
Garhf
Profile Joined August 2010
49 Posts
August 28 2012 03:58 GMT
#665
On August 28 2012 12:46 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 12:35 myopia wrote:
well crap, I just realized I wasted a fire keeper soul. It said 'use to reinforce estus flask', so I used it. Woooooo

What other use is there?

I think he meant "use" as in he consumed it for souls.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
August 28 2012 05:38 GMT
#666
On August 28 2012 12:58 Garhf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 12:46 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On August 28 2012 12:35 myopia wrote:
well crap, I just realized I wasted a fire keeper soul. It said 'use to reinforce estus flask', so I used it. Woooooo

What other use is there?

I think he meant "use" as in he consumed it for souls.


You can also + Show Spoiler +
revive one of the firekeepers that dies later on in the game with it.
You'll get more if you decide to do newgame + and stuff. Don't worry about it.
jbui
Profile Joined May 2010
United States193 Posts
August 28 2012 06:06 GMT
#667
would this work on the PC with a ps3 controller?
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
August 28 2012 06:08 GMT
#668
On August 28 2012 15:06 jbui wrote:
would this work on the PC with a ps3 controller?


Indeed.
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
August 28 2012 06:47 GMT
#669
Finally reached 99 Humanitys with a bunch of Green blossoms. Time to invade constantly with my Dual wielding faith/dex I have yet to encounter a hacker in this game which is nice.
Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
August 28 2012 06:56 GMT
#670
On August 28 2012 06:08 Incze wrote:
Calling the Witcher Series and the TES series "shitty" is a great way to ruin your credibility and argument. To each his own, but in no way shape or form are any of those games shitty. Even out of the gate, Skyrim gave me much much more entertainment than this game on PC, and with mods it's not even close.

Unless you got a gamepad, a tool for consoles, this game is complete shit on the PC. Ever tried playing it with a mouse? It's as painful as walking on acid. The keyboard controls are all over the place and make absolutely no sense at all.
And then, if that wasn't enough the framerate was capped at 30 and the resolution at 720p in 2012, both things fixed in a matter of hours by a talented individual, while the developers claimed it to be impossible due to engine limitations.

On consoles tihs game may well be one of the greatest RPGs ever, but on PC without modifying it (you were laughing about Skyrim and how it needs mods) and buying a gamepad it's not worth 5 bucks, while it costs 40.


Pretty much echoes my thoughts.
If Dark Souls needs mod + a control to even work decently on a PC than its clearly doing something wrong.

My only argument about Skyrim and Oblivion wasn't that they were great games, but rather that if you go trough a few hours of trouble installing mods they can become good games, at least moding those is free... a controller costs money.

And than i have to really wonder:
- This game has minimalistic story
- This game costs you another 20$ to play since you need a controller
- Even with the controller it handles worse than skyrim or Oblivion
- Its combat is basically the same as Skyrim or Oblivion
The only thing its got going for it is the self assumed balance and difficulty resulting in that happiness for progression and loot lust rather than wonder lust... which i agree, many games don't have nowadays BUT the 2 game in which it can be moded are Skyrim and Oblivion, so how is this game superior to those after you mod in the difficulty ?
A good strategy means leaving your opponent room to make mistakes
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
August 28 2012 07:00 GMT
#671
On August 28 2012 15:56 Aterons_toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 06:08 Incze wrote:
Calling the Witcher Series and the TES series "shitty" is a great way to ruin your credibility and argument. To each his own, but in no way shape or form are any of those games shitty. Even out of the gate, Skyrim gave me much much more entertainment than this game on PC, and with mods it's not even close.

Unless you got a gamepad, a tool for consoles, this game is complete shit on the PC. Ever tried playing it with a mouse? It's as painful as walking on acid. The keyboard controls are all over the place and make absolutely no sense at all.
And then, if that wasn't enough the framerate was capped at 30 and the resolution at 720p in 2012, both things fixed in a matter of hours by a talented individual, while the developers claimed it to be impossible due to engine limitations.

On consoles tihs game may well be one of the greatest RPGs ever, but on PC without modifying it (you were laughing about Skyrim and how it needs mods) and buying a gamepad it's not worth 5 bucks, while it costs 40.


Pretty much echoes my thoughts.
If Dark Souls needs mod + a control to even work decently on a PC than its clearly doing something wrong.

My only argument about Skyrim and Oblivion wasn't that they were great games, but rather that if you go trough a few hours of trouble installing mods they can become good games, at least moding those is free... a controller costs money.

And than i have to really wonder:
- This game has minimalistic story
- This game costs you another 20$ to play since you need a controller
- Even with the controller it handles worse than skyrim or Oblivion
- Its combat is basically the same as Skyrim or Oblivion
The only thing its got going for it is the self assumed balance and difficulty resulting in that happiness for progression and loot lust rather than wonder lust... which i agree, many games don't have nowadays BUT the 2 game in which it can be moded are Skyrim and Oblivion, so how is this game superior to those after you mod in the difficulty ?


I can tell you've never even played this game. Or haven't played for more than an hour.

- The story is supposed to be minimalistic. I don't want every fucking npc to tell me his or her life story. The game is about me. You're not really supposed to know what's going on. You have to read descriptions of things to figure out the story.

- You don't need to buy a controller. Mouse and keyboard work fine. I'm on newgame + already with it.

-It handles worse than skyrim or oblivion? Or maybe the combat and control are just too hard for you? The combat in skyrim and oblivion are unfeeling and trash. Every movement and attack in this game has feeling behind it. It takes time. Not .2 seconds while slashing a greatsword.

- Once again, you haven't played the game. The combat is nothing like skyrim or oblivion where you can just hammer down your magic and or melee button and stomp everything in the game. Please go do that and this so I can laugh my ass off at you dying to every mob.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 07:20:51
August 28 2012 07:19 GMT
#672
On August 28 2012 15:56 Aterons_toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 06:08 Incze wrote:
Calling the Witcher Series and the TES series "shitty" is a great way to ruin your credibility and argument. To each his own, but in no way shape or form are any of those games shitty. Even out of the gate, Skyrim gave me much much more entertainment than this game on PC, and with mods it's not even close.

Unless you got a gamepad, a tool for consoles, this game is complete shit on the PC. Ever tried playing it with a mouse? It's as painful as walking on acid. The keyboard controls are all over the place and make absolutely no sense at all.
And then, if that wasn't enough the framerate was capped at 30 and the resolution at 720p in 2012, both things fixed in a matter of hours by a talented individual, while the developers claimed it to be impossible due to engine limitations.

On consoles tihs game may well be one of the greatest RPGs ever, but on PC without modifying it (you were laughing about Skyrim and how it needs mods) and buying a gamepad it's not worth 5 bucks, while it costs 40.


Pretty much echoes my thoughts.
If Dark Souls needs mod + a control to even work decently on a PC than its clearly doing something wrong.

My only argument about Skyrim and Oblivion wasn't that they were great games, but rather that if you go trough a few hours of trouble installing mods they can become good games, at least moding those is free... a controller costs money.

And than i have to really wonder:
- This game has minimalistic story
- This game costs you another 20$ to play since you need a controller
- Even with the controller it handles worse than skyrim or Oblivion
- Its combat is basically the same as Skyrim or Oblivion
The only thing its got going for it is the self assumed balance and difficulty resulting in that happiness for progression and loot lust rather than wonder lust... which i agree, many games don't have nowadays BUT the 2 game in which it can be moded are Skyrim and Oblivion, so how is this game superior to those after you mod in the difficulty ?


Comparing the Souls series to The elder scrolls is like comparing counter strike to call of duty. You're treating a steak like it's a mcdonald's hamburger, don't do that. One last one, Demon's/Dark's Souls are a fine wine, Skyrim/Oblivion are Coors Light. Nothing wrong with that, everyone likes some fast food and beer on occassion, but Souls has some true depth and class.
Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1655 Posts
August 28 2012 07:21 GMT
#673
On August 28 2012 15:56 Aterons_toss wrote:
And than i have to really wonder:

- This game has minimalistic story

So do Oblivion and Skyrim.

- This game costs you another 20$ to play since you need a controller

I'll give you that, but buying DLC for Oblivion or Skyrim will cost you nearly $20 as well, for not much at all (horse armor, etc).

- Even with the controller it handles worse than skyrim or Oblivion

I don't see how you could say this if you played the game. Dark Souls and Oblivion/Skyrim control perfectly fine... I don't know what you're talking about.

- Its combat is basically the same as Skyrim or Oblivion

Now I'm convinced you haven't played the game much. Or at all. Oblivion and Skyrim have no weight in their combat- every weapon swings the same way, with the same speed, has the same cooldown, has the same broken hitboxes (seriously, I often get hit by an enemy's swing when I'm like three feet away from them), and there's no hit stun. Combat literally boils down to mashing attack as quickly as possible without regard to evasive or tactical maneuvers.

The only thing its got going for it is the self assumed balance and difficulty resulting in that happiness for progression and loot lust rather than wonder lust... which i agree, many games don't have nowadays BUT the 2 game in which it can be moded are Skyrim and Oblivion, so how is this game superior to those after you mod in the difficulty ?

Wonder lust? See Ash Lake, and tell me you aren't in awe. Go through the Tomb of the Giants, and tell me you aren't spooked. Land in Anor Londo, and tell me there is anything in un-modded Oblivion or Skyrim that even remotely comes close to the view you get. You've clearly only touched Dark Souls for less than five minutes (or not at all) without even legitimately giving it a shot, so quit your baseless bashing.
Graphics
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
August 28 2012 07:21 GMT
#674
Anybody have experience with a wizard? I played through partway on the xbox version as a knight I believe, but am curious in trying out the magic in the game. Is it more challenging? Easier? Fun?
Scalepad
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden366 Posts
August 28 2012 07:23 GMT
#675
On August 28 2012 15:56 Aterons_toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 06:08 Incze wrote:
Calling the Witcher Series and the TES series "shitty" is a great way to ruin your credibility and argument. To each his own, but in no way shape or form are any of those games shitty. Even out of the gate, Skyrim gave me much much more entertainment than this game on PC, and with mods it's not even close.

Unless you got a gamepad, a tool for consoles, this game is complete shit on the PC. Ever tried playing it with a mouse? It's as painful as walking on acid. The keyboard controls are all over the place and make absolutely no sense at all.
And then, if that wasn't enough the framerate was capped at 30 and the resolution at 720p in 2012, both things fixed in a matter of hours by a talented individual, while the developers claimed it to be impossible due to engine limitations.

On consoles tihs game may well be one of the greatest RPGs ever, but on PC without modifying it (you were laughing about Skyrim and how it needs mods) and buying a gamepad it's not worth 5 bucks, while it costs 40.


Pretty much echoes my thoughts.
If Dark Souls needs mod + a control to even work decently on a PC than its clearly doing something wrong.

My only argument about Skyrim and Oblivion wasn't that they were great games, but rather that if you go trough a few hours of trouble installing mods they can become good games, at least moding those is free... a controller costs money.

And than i have to really wonder:
- This game has minimalistic story
- This game costs you another 20$ to play since you need a controller
- Even with the controller it handles worse than skyrim or Oblivion
- Its combat is basically the same as Skyrim or Oblivion
The only thing its got going for it is the self assumed balance and difficulty resulting in that happiness for progression and loot lust rather than wonder lust... which i agree, many games don't have nowadays BUT the 2 game in which it can be moded are Skyrim and Oblivion, so how is this game superior to those after you mod in the difficulty ?

Oh boy either you're retarded or you're trying really hard to troll.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 28 2012 07:27 GMT
#676
Just found Divine Ember

+ Show Spoiler +
If I give that to the blacksmith will I be able to upgrade as many weapons as I like with it or just one?
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
August 28 2012 08:18 GMT
#677
One thing I fucking hate about this game is how you can literally walk into a random area thinking you found something cool only to be one shot by a 10 foot tall man-zombie think with a sword twice his size. That's not difficulty, that's just annoying.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
August 28 2012 08:34 GMT
#678
On August 28 2012 17:18 Dusty wrote:
One thing I fucking hate about this game is how you can literally walk into a random area thinking you found something cool only to be one shot by a 10 foot tall man-zombie think with a sword twice his size. That's not difficulty, that's just annoying.


No, it's you not paying attention. Wait until + Show Spoiler +
You get to tomb of the giants or under the catacombs where it's fucking pitch black and has invisible bridges.
Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 09:37:30
August 28 2012 09:23 GMT
#679
On August 28 2012 15:56 Aterons_toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 06:08 Incze wrote:
Calling the Witcher Series and the TES series "shitty" is a great way to ruin your credibility and argument. To each his own, but in no way shape or form are any of those games shitty. Even out of the gate, Skyrim gave me much much more entertainment than this game on PC, and with mods it's not even close.

Unless you got a gamepad, a tool for consoles, this game is complete shit on the PC. Ever tried playing it with a mouse? It's as painful as walking on acid. The keyboard controls are all over the place and make absolutely no sense at all.
And then, if that wasn't enough the framerate was capped at 30 and the resolution at 720p in 2012, both things fixed in a matter of hours by a talented individual, while the developers claimed it to be impossible due to engine limitations.

On consoles tihs game may well be one of the greatest RPGs ever, but on PC without modifying it (you were laughing about Skyrim and how it needs mods) and buying a gamepad it's not worth 5 bucks, while it costs 40.


Pretty much echoes my thoughts.
If Dark Souls needs mod + a control to even work decently on a PC than its clearly doing something wrong.

My only argument about Skyrim and Oblivion wasn't that they were great games, but rather that if you go trough a few hours of trouble installing mods they can become good games, at least moding those is free... a controller costs money.

And than i have to really wonder:
- This game has minimalistic story
- This game costs you another 20$ to play since you need a controller
- Even with the controller it handles worse than skyrim or Oblivion
- Its combat is basically the same as Skyrim or Oblivion
The only thing its got going for it is the self assumed balance and difficulty resulting in that happiness for progression and loot lust rather than wonder lust... which i agree, many games don't have nowadays BUT the 2 game in which it can be moded are Skyrim and Oblivion, so how is this game superior to those after you mod in the difficulty ?


if by minimalistic story, you mean there is barely any story or the story is barely told. then you haven't been paying attention. there is possibly just as much lore and story in this game as there is in the elder scrolls series. you just have to pay attention. every little detail in the game is seeped in lore, be it an item, an armour, a character, the places that you visit. And if you cant be bothered doing that then watch epicnamebro's lore series on youtube.

i won't comment about your other points as it would just repeat what others have already said.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 28 2012 09:35 GMT
#680
Just got cursed in the depths... fuck my life

this game is super meat boy*1000
Kevmeister @ Dota2
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