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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 20:17:32
January 16 2015 20:17 GMT
#3101
First fight with seath?
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11406 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 21:16:02
January 16 2015 21:14 GMT
#3102
Probably the first time you meet the Duke. I also found that incredibly annoying. I fought the boss, turned up in a random other place, and then fought my way back to him just to find him to be utterly impossible, but still thought that i might be missing something and tried it another two times or so.

Bosses that you are not supposed to win against are BS.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
January 16 2015 21:41 GMT
#3103
Wait I thought he disappeared from that room after he kills you the first time. You can go back and fight him again?
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
January 16 2015 22:50 GMT
#3104
On January 17 2015 06:41 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Wait I thought he disappeared from that room after he kills you the first time. You can go back and fight him again?

Me too... Does he only disappear after triggering some event? Unringing the bell or something? I've never seen him in that room twice
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 16 2015 23:37 GMT
#3105
The dragon with the ice attack. I went in there. Stayed a bit in the back and dodged the first attacks. Then he does some sort of insane fill the room with ice attack.

I thought I had to melee him more, so I fought my way back but got ass whiped once more. Then I decided to look it up (because I couldn't do 1 damage) and apparently you need to do other stuff. I haven't figured out what I should do though.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 16 2015 23:38 GMT
#3106
You can just go to the smoke room again and try him again, he didn't disappear.
I had a good night of sleep.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
January 16 2015 23:51 GMT
#3107
Didn't? I was pretty sure he just disappears when he kills you first time and throws you into the tower/jail. Then you need to find him near his "precious" where you're supposed to have a proper fight. But maybe my memory is failing me.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11406 Posts
January 17 2015 01:23 GMT
#3108
Well, might depends on the version, but i distinctly remember walking back to him from the jail, and trying to fight him again on the tower, and dying again to him. So it might just be that he despawns when you get out to the courtyard or something like that.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
January 19 2015 06:53 GMT
#3109
I don't know the exact moment Seath disappears from the tower but he's just one of those nasty traps the game has for new players

I think I'm quite lucky, first two crystal lizards in the Great Hollow dropped Titanite Slab each :D So many +15 weapons incoming!
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maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
January 19 2015 07:28 GMT
#3110
On January 17 2015 06:14 Simberto wrote:
Probably the first time you meet the Duke. I also found that incredibly annoying. I fought the boss, turned up in a random other place, and then fought my way back to him just to find him to be utterly impossible, but still thought that i might be missing something and tried it another two times or so.

Bosses that you are not supposed to win against are BS.

Well, the second half of the game is not nearly as good as the first half anyway. The Duke's Archives were just plain frustrating. Archers from every direction, far too many enemies (including casters). It felt just cheap at times. Fighting while being shot at from two-three directions is not my definition of a fair challenge.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
January 19 2015 12:04 GMT
#3111
The dukes archives were a little lazy in terms of design but I dont it was cheap. Its a pretty easy area really.

Its such a shame the later areas are so underdeveloped . Everytime I start a new character I usually stop after smough and ornstein
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 19 2015 12:21 GMT
#3112
I just went through the archives and through the cave. The cave is pretty awesome tbh. Invisible paths with the water. Fell down a couple times though. But hilarious none the less.

Archives were fine. I liked it tbh. With the mages and the archers and the rotating stairs. Wasn't that though. I don't think I died a lot.
I had a good night of sleep.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-19 12:32:50
January 19 2015 12:23 GMT
#3113
On January 19 2015 21:04 solidbebe wrote:
The dukes archives were a little lazy in terms of design but I dont it was cheap. Its a pretty easy area really.

Its such a shame the later areas are so underdeveloped . Everytime I start a new character I usually stop after smough and ornstein

Well, the whole interconnectedness which makes the first half so great is practically gone in the second half. You're just heading into separate areas to go kill a boss and return once that's done. It's as if FROM suddenly realised they had a deadline to make after they finished the first half. The part before you have to kill Pinwheel is fun though. The part after that not so much.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 09:29:37
January 20 2015 09:27 GMT
#3114
On January 19 2015 21:23 maartendq wrote:
Well, the whole interconnectedness which makes the first half so great is practically gone in the second half.


How is it gone, they are still connected. Just because there is no direct path from Archives to Depths doesn't make it any less connected. I think teleporting with Lordvessel creates this false impression that areas aren't connected anymore cause you get loading screens. I'd say there are two major areas in DS - Anor Londo + Duke's Archives + Painted World is one part, while everything else is another. For eg. you can see Lost Izalith or Demon Ruins from Tomb of Giants and vice versa, plus you can walk between those two areas, though it'll take a lot of time.

After spending some time in the game I really don't see how people can say whole 2nd part of the game is so rushed it's terrible. The only place I dislike is Lost Izalith, filled with dragon butts, fire, stupid boss fight and not much else and I can agree that it's clearly unfinished. But the rest isn't that much worse than the 1st part of the game. The most lazy part is having to fight Asylum demon 3 times during a playthrough.

Also, archers and channelers in Duke's Archives are the best part of the area Personally I don't like the crystal golems outside, cause they offer no challenge and are just plain boring.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11406 Posts
January 20 2015 10:40 GMT
#3115
That is not what most people mean when they say interconnectedness. Of course it is "the same world", but in the first half of the game you constantly get situations like Havel's Tower where you are suddenly cross over into a totally different part of the world and you realize "It was there all the time! This is actually all connected!", or the many shortcuts you open up which lead you back to places you already knew. In the second half, there is pretty much none of that, it is just multiple straight lines from a to b with no connection to each other. Yes, you can SEE Lost Izalith from the Tomb of Giants. But there is no connection. You can't actually get there without going all the way around via blighttown.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
January 20 2015 11:18 GMT
#3116
On January 20 2015 19:40 Simberto wrote:
That is not what most people mean when they say interconnectedness. Of course it is "the same world", but in the first half of the game you constantly get situations like Havel's Tower where you are suddenly cross over into a totally different part of the world and you realize "It was there all the time! This is actually all connected!", or the many shortcuts you open up which lead you back to places you already knew. In the second half, there is pretty much none of that, it is just multiple straight lines from a to b with no connection to each other. Yes, you can SEE Lost Izalith from the Tomb of Giants. But there is no connection. You can't actually get there without going all the way around via blighttown.

I actually discovered havel's tower by accident. I opened a door, walked down some stairs and was suddenly attacked by this dude in huge armor. I defeated him, opened the door all the way at the foot of the tower and was amazed to see that this actually connected to the Darkroot Gardens. I got the same surprise when I found out that the closed gate in the sewer near blighttown actually lead to lower blighttown and the depths. It's impressive how interconnected all those areas are.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 20 2015 11:56 GMT
#3117
Fighted the fire boss yesterday. I have no clue how to beat him. Considering to open a wiki.

At some point I found myself running around a mountain for 30 minutes.
I had a good night of sleep.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11406 Posts
January 20 2015 12:40 GMT
#3118
Which fire boss?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 13:25:13
January 20 2015 13:23 GMT
#3119
I hope it is a boss. He has big tentacles and swims in the lava. He has a fire tentacle attack and a normal tentacle attack.

In the demon ruins. But he has a boss HP bar and everything.

I have tried him with full Hazel Gear and fire protection ring but the fire tentacle attack still does 40% hp away. And it knocks me on my back.
I had a good night of sleep.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
January 20 2015 13:54 GMT
#3120
Ceasless Discharge I guess. Here's a few tips on how to beat him:

+ Show Spoiler +

As you noted he has two smash attacks, the best way to dodge them is to start running and rolling sideways as soon as he begins his attack animation, for some reason his tentackles have really big hitbox, so you need to cover a lot of ground to avoid it. When it hits run back to it and attack it as much as you can.

He also has horizontal sweep that can throw you down the cliff so watch out for that.
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