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TerranHwaiting
Profile Joined December 2014
Korea (North)179 Posts
January 08 2015 11:23 GMT
#3081
Armor is not that important, so you can always pick something good looking. This is my char right now in DS1

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HighPassage
Profile Joined June 2012
United States82 Posts
January 08 2015 13:19 GMT
#3082
On January 08 2015 14:14 Duka08 wrote:
What is the head piece in your last screenshot HighPassage?


It's the Sanctum Priestess Tiara.
http://www.last.fm/user/brotatorounds
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
January 08 2015 17:24 GMT
#3083
Elite knight set > all

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That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9568 Posts
January 10 2015 10:51 GMT
#3084
A small update from me:
I've been farming for the last few days, both souls and titanite slabs. Souls in the painted world and slabs from darkwraiths. Boy, do those wraiths do not want to share their slabs. I got 3 slabs in about 8 hours of farming. About 80 runs (counting with homeward bones). I'm 104 or 105 at this point, with a +15zwei, +15uchi, +5lightning halberd and various other weapons at +14. Got fully upgraded sentinel armour, crimson set (since it upgrades with twinkling which you can just buy) and +9 elite knight's full set.

I'll try to write more witty reports, but to be completely honest the game has lost it's exciting difficulty. My most difficult opponents are now ledges and jumps. Figuring out were to put the other stat points since I'm at 40VIT 40END 40DEX is now the hardest part of the game.
I've been thinking of putting aonther 5 into DEX for both damage and cast speed since I did go pyromancy and got the flame ascended and upgraded to the max. Maybe more points into END because I want fast rolls or even ninja flips in Elite Knight's, I'll do some maths on the character planner.

What level do people generally PvP at on the PC steam version? I was reading that it ranges mostly from 100 to 120? Would it hinder my experience if I went to 125 or even 135?
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
January 10 2015 10:54 GMT
#3085
Around 100 yes, I think if you go higher than 125 you'll have trouble finding matches.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9568 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 11:21:56
January 10 2015 11:20 GMT
#3086
I'm beginning to think I should make a new character and plan it out from level 1 to level ~120 with the intention to PvP from the start >_>; too many silly decisions like 16 attunement when realistically needed only 1-2 slots, and going 26 strength, then switching to dexterity focus.
Maybe plan from the start around the armor I want to wear and whether I want to ninja flip...
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
January 10 2015 11:42 GMT
#3087
I've only screwed around in PvP I don't know about min-maxing, it was fun trying to get backstabs with the silver dagger that gives a sick bonus to crits
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 11 2015 23:21 GMT
#3088
I am having fun the pyromancer spells. Sad I only found out about this after 70 hours lol.
I had a good night of sleep.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
January 12 2015 07:26 GMT
#3089
Damn, Solaire makes O&S fight trivial! :D The only thing you need to worry about is killing Smough before Solaire wrecks Ornstein. Strangely enough, when Ornstein goes super sayan Solaire becomes pretty useless and deals barely any dmg.

On January 12 2015 08:21 Koshi wrote:
I am having fun the pyromancer spells. Sad I only found out about this after 70 hours lol.


That's one of the great things about this game, no matter how many hours you put in it it can always surprise you. I have about 250h in the game and only recently found that there is a chest hidden behind giant blacksmith in Anor Londo!
A dota player and lol player walk into a bar. The dota player says: "lol sucks". Lol player couldn't deny. http://i.imgur.com/FpLeTf1.gif
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
January 12 2015 08:05 GMT
#3090
Back when I played DS for the first time, Solaire was completly useless versus Ornstein&Smough.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
January 12 2015 10:36 GMT
#3091
On January 12 2015 16:26 ViperPL wrote:
there is a chest hidden behind giant blacksmith in Anor Londo!

woah what
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
The_Australian
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Australia458 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 01:10:18
January 15 2015 01:02 GMT
#3092
On January 10 2015 19:51 Latham wrote:
A small update from me:
I've been farming for the last few days, both souls and titanite slabs. Souls in the painted world and slabs from darkwraiths. Boy, do those wraiths do not want to share their slabs. I got 3 slabs in about 8 hours of farming. About 80 runs (counting with homeward bones). I'm 104 or 105 at this point, with a +15zwei, +15uchi, +5lightning halberd and various other weapons at +14. Got fully upgraded sentinel armour, crimson set (since it upgrades with twinkling which you can just buy) and +9 elite knight's full set.

I'll try to write more witty reports, but to be completely honest the game has lost it's exciting difficulty. My most difficult opponents are now ledges and jumps. Figuring out were to put the other stat points since I'm at 40VIT 40END 40DEX is now the hardest part of the game.
I've been thinking of putting aonther 5 into DEX for both damage and cast speed since I did go pyromancy and got the flame ascended and upgraded to the max. Maybe more points into END because I want fast rolls or even ninja flips in Elite Knight's, I'll do some maths on the character planner.

What level do people generally PvP at on the PC steam version? I was reading that it ranges mostly from 100 to 120? Would it hinder my experience if I went to 125 or even 135?


Honestly one of the best things you can invest in soul level wise is vit. Sure the scaling isn't as great (like any skill) after 40, but anything in dex/strength won't add much damage at all and 5 points in dex for cast speed is pretty negligible in my opinion. The extra health is just good. The other option is End to either stay in the same weightclass with better armor or go up one weight class, but it's something you'd have to calculate. doing this restricts any armor changes/ring choices you might want to make from then on out.

One thing to note is if you enjoy using the halberd (i sure do) it's worth removing the lightning ascension and turning it back to +15, the C/C scaling with a 40/40 quility build will do much more damage, especially in pvp, and especially with the leo ring.
As to the PvP meta, anything at soul level 95-130 will grant you a lot of traffic. I usually keep my pvp accounts to 95 to avoid brandon builds alone (even though i know the parry timings that build is fucking ridiculously hard to deal with).

I really need help with a problem. Ever since the steam re-release i'm finding that mouse support for the game is just gone. I realise a lot of you probably use a controller but I've got over 400 hours (mostly pvp) worth of muscle memory on keyboard/mouse and really don't want to switch (unless the alternative is not playing the game again). Any related topics i can find are from 2012/2013 regarding DS fix and the fact that the cursor would be visable, but nothing about mouse support being suddenly gone. Please help if you know anything about it.
Edit: further information about the mouse issue: it sometimes work's on the menu/character selection screen, just not ingame. At this point i'm wondering if its something to do with DSfix.
"Nothing should be unstoppable when you see it coming...." - Boxer
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
January 15 2015 06:48 GMT
#3093
I'd say Vit is overrated unless you want to pvp or go all the way to NG7+. On my dex/fth character I'm in NG++ with only 15 Vit and fap ring and it's more than enough hp to deal with stuff. I might get some more points into it later on if the situation calls for it.

Not sure about the mouse thing. When I switched to steamworks I didn't notice any difference in mouse performance (though I don't use dsfix, but wasn't there a recent update to make it work properly?). Luckily for me I bought 360 controller recently just for Dark Souls, though I might get DA:I and I read that controller is way better for it than k&m so that's good As a recent convert to controller I'd advise you to get one, it really is a world of difference.
A dota player and lol player walk into a bar. The dota player says: "lol sucks". Lol player couldn't deny. http://i.imgur.com/FpLeTf1.gif
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
January 15 2015 07:45 GMT
#3094
On January 15 2015 15:48 ViperPL wrote:
I'd say Vit is overrated unless you want to pvp or go all the way to NG7+. On my dex/fth character I'm in NG++ with only 15 Vit and fap ring and it's more than enough hp to deal with stuff. I might get some more points into it later on if the situation calls for it.

Not sure about the mouse thing. When I switched to steamworks I didn't notice any difference in mouse performance (though I don't use dsfix, but wasn't there a recent update to make it work properly?). Luckily for me I bought 360 controller recently just for Dark Souls, though I might get DA:I and I read that controller is way better for it than k&m so that's good As a recent convert to controller I'd advise you to get one, it really is a world of difference.

I'd say VIT is important to new players who don't know the attack patterns very well yet. For experienced players it becomes less important because they have mastered the dodging, blocking and parrying mechanics a lot better already.
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
January 15 2015 07:51 GMT
#3095
On January 15 2015 10:02 The_Australian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 19:51 Latham wrote:
A small update from me:
I've been farming for the last few days, both souls and titanite slabs. Souls in the painted world and slabs from darkwraiths. Boy, do those wraiths do not want to share their slabs. I got 3 slabs in about 8 hours of farming. About 80 runs (counting with homeward bones). I'm 104 or 105 at this point, with a +15zwei, +15uchi, +5lightning halberd and various other weapons at +14. Got fully upgraded sentinel armour, crimson set (since it upgrades with twinkling which you can just buy) and +9 elite knight's full set.

I'll try to write more witty reports, but to be completely honest the game has lost it's exciting difficulty. My most difficult opponents are now ledges and jumps. Figuring out were to put the other stat points since I'm at 40VIT 40END 40DEX is now the hardest part of the game.
I've been thinking of putting aonther 5 into DEX for both damage and cast speed since I did go pyromancy and got the flame ascended and upgraded to the max. Maybe more points into END because I want fast rolls or even ninja flips in Elite Knight's, I'll do some maths on the character planner.

What level do people generally PvP at on the PC steam version? I was reading that it ranges mostly from 100 to 120? Would it hinder my experience if I went to 125 or even 135?


Honestly one of the best things you can invest in soul level wise is vit. Sure the scaling isn't as great (like any skill) after 40, but anything in dex/strength won't add much damage at all and 5 points in dex for cast speed is pretty negligible in my opinion. The extra health is just good. The other option is End to either stay in the same weightclass with better armor or go up one weight class, but it's something you'd have to calculate. doing this restricts any armor changes/ring choices you might want to make from then on out.

One thing to note is if you enjoy using the halberd (i sure do) it's worth removing the lightning ascension and turning it back to +15, the C/C scaling with a 40/40 quility build will do much more damage, especially in pvp, and especially with the leo ring.
As to the PvP meta, anything at soul level 95-130 will grant you a lot of traffic. I usually keep my pvp accounts to 95 to avoid brandon builds alone (even though i know the parry timings that build is fucking ridiculously hard to deal with).

I really need help with a problem. Ever since the steam re-release i'm finding that mouse support for the game is just gone. I realise a lot of you probably use a controller but I've got over 400 hours (mostly pvp) worth of muscle memory on keyboard/mouse and really don't want to switch (unless the alternative is not playing the game again). Any related topics i can find are from 2012/2013 regarding DS fix and the fact that the cursor would be visable, but nothing about mouse support being suddenly gone. Please help if you know anything about it.
Edit: further information about the mouse issue: it sometimes work's on the menu/character selection screen, just not ingame. At this point i'm wondering if its something to do with DSfix.


The new DSFix for the steam release doesn't seem totally on point, I can't unlock FPS anymore without the game crashing, so maybe the mouse support is broken too? You can only hope they'll fix it soon :<
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11713 Posts
January 15 2015 10:17 GMT
#3096
On January 15 2015 16:45 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 15:48 ViperPL wrote:
I'd say Vit is overrated unless you want to pvp or go all the way to NG7+. On my dex/fth character I'm in NG++ with only 15 Vit and fap ring and it's more than enough hp to deal with stuff. I might get some more points into it later on if the situation calls for it.

Not sure about the mouse thing. When I switched to steamworks I didn't notice any difference in mouse performance (though I don't use dsfix, but wasn't there a recent update to make it work properly?). Luckily for me I bought 360 controller recently just for Dark Souls, though I might get DA:I and I read that controller is way better for it than k&m so that's good As a recent convert to controller I'd advise you to get one, it really is a world of difference.

I'd say VIT is important to new players who don't know the attack patterns very well yet. For experienced players it becomes less important because they have mastered the dodging, blocking and parrying mechanics a lot better already.


Vit gives you more room for making errors. Other stats reduce the amount of times you can possibly make errors by shortening fights.

Obviously none of those are really necessary, i don't think there is a single point of dmg that you can not avoid, so you can finish the game naked at level 1 in as many NG+++ as you want, if you don't make mistakes.

I'd still say that vita is very, very useful to have, as it often allows you to take another hit and then a sip from your flask afterwards, instead of dying and having to corpserun.
The_Australian
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Australia458 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 04:02:54
January 16 2015 03:57 GMT
#3097
On January 15 2015 15:48 ViperPL wrote:
I'd say Vit is overrated unless you want to pvp or go all the way to NG7+. On my dex/fth character I'm in NG++ with only 15 Vit and fap ring and it's more than enough hp to deal with stuff. I might get some more points into it later on if the situation calls for it.

Not sure about the mouse thing. When I switched to steamworks I didn't notice any difference in mouse performance (though I don't use dsfix, but wasn't there a recent update to make it work properly?). Luckily for me I bought 360 controller recently just for Dark Souls, though I might get DA:I and I read that controller is way better for it than k&m so that's good As a recent convert to controller I'd advise you to get one, it really is a world of difference.


Yep i can understand only having 15 Vit for someone who knows the game well, especially considering most bosses attacks (NG+ and beyond) do % based damage, meaning the mobs along the way are much more threatening. The person i was quoting was on a first time run, so i advised just to get more Vit or End (based on if it would actually allow for better armor). If he invests those points in Str/Dex he will only get around 10-40 more damage on his attacks for many souls invested which in late NG or NG+ is nothing as enemies can have thousands of hp. It seems to me his character is horribly over leveled for NG, but that seems to happen a lot for first time players.
I should add that i haven't done a PvE run for quite some time, the last 250 or so hours I've played have all been PvP, so my advice may be ill remembered.
I may end up doing a blog post or something similar about my favorite PvP builds/tips/tricks though. There's actually a lot of depth to the PvP.
Followup to the mouse situation, if anyone encounters this in the future. I'm almost 100% certain its due to DSfix. I've since removed DSfix and now cant boot the game (game tries to boot then seemingly closes itself - apparently a common problem when removing DSfix) so probably don't remove it entirely unless you want a clean install, or at least back up the files. I'm thinking that's the only option left at this point but my internet cap is extremely small so it will take a while to confirm it. Trying other stuff in the meantime and will post progress.

On January 15 2015 16:51 Nimix wrote:

The new DSFix for the steam release doesn't seem totally on point, I can't unlock FPS anymore without the game crashing, so maybe the mouse support is broken too? You can only hope they'll fix it soon


As far as i know the fps change in DSfix is now redundant, as the steamworks changed the game to native 60fps.
"Nothing should be unstoppable when you see it coming...." - Boxer
The_Australian
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Australia458 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 04:03:35
January 16 2015 03:59 GMT
#3098
Double post....You'd think after 8 year's i'd know how to use the site....
"Nothing should be unstoppable when you see it coming...." - Boxer
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 16 2015 09:53 GMT
#3099
Died twice to a boss you are not supposed to beat yesterday. I was sad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
January 16 2015 19:30 GMT
#3100
On January 16 2015 18:53 Koshi wrote:
Died twice to a boss you are not supposed to beat yesterday. I was sad.


Not supposed to beat? Which fight was this?
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