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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
January 11 2013 23:29 GMT
#2101
On January 12 2013 08:11 nbaker wrote:
Hmm, so am I understanding correctly that Dark Souls and Skyrim have nearly identical combat systems?


Yeah definitely, also if you like the story of winnie the pooh home run derby then you will definitely like dark souls. The handling is a little more restrictive than in gran turismo 3, but it's made up for in the fact that the batting is much more responsive than MLB 2k11.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
January 11 2013 23:54 GMT
#2102
On January 12 2013 08:29 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 08:11 nbaker wrote:
Hmm, so am I understanding correctly that Dark Souls and Skyrim have nearly identical combat systems?


Yeah definitely, also if you like the story of winnie the pooh home run derby then you will definitely like dark souls. The handling is a little more restrictive than in gran turismo 3, but it's made up for in the fact that the batting is much more responsive than MLB 2k11.

I lol'ed hard
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Soulmate
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Japan138 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 15:27:58
January 12 2013 15:27 GMT
#2103
I think I'm screwed. I'm at the 2bosses in golden armor and I attacked the warrior of the sun by mistake..so now he is dead and I can't invoke him to help me. ahah
It's my first play-through so I suck hard.
If anyone is willing to help me, I would be glad ! (never played co-op)
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
January 12 2013 15:46 GMT
#2104
On January 13 2013 00:27 Soulmate wrote:
I think I'm screwed. I'm at the 2bosses in golden armor and I attacked the warrior of the sun by mistake..so now he is dead and I can't invoke him to help me. ahah
It's my first play-through so I suck hard.
If anyone is willing to help me, I would be glad ! (never played co-op)

What level are you? I might be able to pop in and help you out. I have a lvl 66 char.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Soulmate
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Japan138 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 16:08:44
January 12 2013 16:02 GMT
#2105
I'm level 53 to be precise
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
January 12 2013 16:37 GMT
#2106
On January 13 2013 00:27 Soulmate wrote:
I think I'm screwed. I'm at the 2bosses in golden armor and I attacked the warrior of the sun by mistake..so now he is dead and I can't invoke him to help me. ahah
It's my first play-through so I suck hard.
If anyone is willing to help me, I would be glad ! (never played co-op)


You're not screwed, of course, since O+S are doable solo, but obviously it's considerably more difficult. It's easier to kill Ornstein first since he tends to charge at you quickly whereas Smough lumbers behind, but you probably knew that already. Use the pillars to your advantage since Smough tends to get stuck on them whereas Ornstein will glide around them and get separated.
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nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 16:48:39
January 12 2013 16:47 GMT
#2107
Upgrade your equipment! This will make the fight much easier. Your primary weapon should be at least +10 and your armor should be upgraded too. Make sure the weapon you're using scales with the stats you've been leveling before you upgrade.
Soulmate
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Japan138 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 16:52:16
January 12 2013 16:51 GMT
#2108
Thx for the advice but I think I screwed up this part too as I went for lighting damage (+10 then lightning to the giant blacksmith) on my giant sword and it's probably not effective for this boss.
I wanted to go for pyromancy too but I answered yes to the pyro vendor when he asked about my chaos flame so I had to kill him too before buying his spells.. ahah this first play-through is a mess !
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 17:13:12
January 12 2013 17:12 GMT
#2109
Yeah I kinda made a mess. I saw pyro in the speed run on SDA and it looked awesome. So I pumped a shit load into it. I'm using the guy who has high dex as a starting ability. The weird light skinned one. But I put loads into str because I really liked the look of the black knight sword. Now I have a power glove with like level 9 and it's so many souls to make it better, but it does less damage than the sword and kinda sucks with the range and the limited uses. Yuck. Now I have a character with 20str 20dex and like 15vit and 13 end. So unbalanced and nooby, I'm stuck between two different builds it seems and I'm way shitter than my soul level (I think 36) is supposed to be.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
January 12 2013 17:33 GMT
#2110
On January 13 2013 02:12 sc4k wrote:
Yeah I kinda made a mess. I saw pyro in the speed run on SDA and it looked awesome. So I pumped a shit load into it. I'm using the guy who has high dex as a starting ability. The weird light skinned one. But I put loads into str because I really liked the look of the black knight sword. Now I have a power glove with like level 9 and it's so many souls to make it better, but it does less damage than the sword and kinda sucks with the range and the limited uses. Yuck. Now I have a character with 20str 20dex and like 15vit and 13 end. So unbalanced and nooby, I'm stuck between two different builds it seems and I'm way shitter than my soul level (I think 36) is supposed to be.

You should be okay if you get some good pyro spells. Get some more end/vit/str (in that order) and youre gonna be cool beans.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 18:15:52
January 12 2013 18:15 GMT
#2111
On January 13 2013 02:12 sc4k wrote:
Yeah I kinda made a mess. I saw pyro in the speed run on SDA and it looked awesome. So I pumped a shit load into it. I'm using the guy who has high dex as a starting ability. The weird light skinned one. But I put loads into str because I really liked the look of the black knight sword. Now I have a power glove with like level 9 and it's so many souls to make it better, but it does less damage than the sword and kinda sucks with the range and the limited uses. Yuck. Now I have a character with 20str 20dex and like 15vit and 13 end. So unbalanced and nooby, I'm stuck between two different builds it seems and I'm way shitter than my soul level (I think 36) is supposed to be.

Get better spells too, instead of just upgrading. The combustions are good for close range standard combat, and the fire balls (incl. Fire Orb) are good for heavier hitters where you can keep your distance, and bosses. +9 glove is pretty good, should be doing reasonable damage.

Also, appearance and starting class are unrelated.
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
January 12 2013 18:47 GMT
#2112
On January 13 2013 02:12 sc4k wrote:
Yeah I kinda made a mess. I saw pyro in the speed run on SDA and it looked awesome. So I pumped a shit load into it. I'm using the guy who has high dex as a starting ability. The weird light skinned one. But I put loads into str because I really liked the look of the black knight sword. Now I have a power glove with like level 9 and it's so many souls to make it better, but it does less damage than the sword and kinda sucks with the range and the limited uses. Yuck. Now I have a character with 20str 20dex and like 15vit and 13 end. So unbalanced and nooby, I'm stuck between two different builds it seems and I'm way shitter than my soul level (I think 36) is supposed to be.


You're actually doing ok on stats, maybe you could have skimped on the dex a little to focus on str, but you actually aren't too unblanaced, you need higher dex for some str weapons (like black knight weapons) anyway, that's actually a pretty good build so far for a first playthrough as it lets you try almost everything. The pyro glove is expensive in the later levels, but it gets pretty powerful and (great)combustion is one of the fastest moves in the game, +9 is actually technically less than halfway+ Show Spoiler +
after it gets to +15 you can ascend it in the swamp and upgrade that ascended flame to +5, so it's 20 upgrades total
. Lvl 36 is actually quite low still, you can level up to 80-90 pretty easily in new game, but then it's easier to go to new game + to level up. With your current stat setup you should probably continue with vit(40-50), str(36-50), and end(40). Str doesn't have to be a focus if you don't want it, your build could go any way right now, but it's a good stat for inexperienced players to open more options and make everything easier due to more damage. Really, you char is still competent and fine, you didn't make a really bad mess.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 12 2013 18:55 GMT
#2113
On January 12 2013 08:29 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 08:11 nbaker wrote:
Hmm, so am I understanding correctly that Dark Souls and Skyrim have nearly identical combat systems?


Yeah definitely, also if you like the story of winnie the pooh home run derby then you will definitely like dark souls. The handling is a little more restrictive than in gran turismo 3, but it's made up for in the fact that the batting is much more responsive than MLB 2k11.

lmfao!
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
January 12 2013 19:24 GMT
#2114
Oh awesome :D. I was really contemplating restarting lol. Fwiw Duka it was the guy with the scimitar. Thanks for all the advice guys esp fyrewolf I'll follow that plan
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
January 13 2013 01:18 GMT
#2115
hey, i accidently killed the merchant in the sewers that sells the crystal stuff. now read hes pretty important?
am i fucked?

if its that way then im gonna quit this game for now. wont do the whole start again now, was just getting real fun but well...
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
January 13 2013 01:19 GMT
#2116
On January 13 2013 10:18 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
hey, i accidently killed the merchant in the sewers that sells the crystal stuff. now read hes pretty important?
am i fucked?

if its that way then im gonna quit this game for now. wont do the whole start again now, was just getting real fun but well...

He's not important at all. Only thing he sells is some cool armors. You can just pick those up in your next playthrough if you want them.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
January 13 2013 01:30 GMT
#2117
On January 13 2013 10:18 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
hey, i accidently killed the merchant in the sewers that sells the crystal stuff. now read hes pretty important?
am i fucked?

if its that way then im gonna quit this game for now. wont do the whole start again now, was just getting real fun but well...


Not really. Like solidbebe says, basically the only thing he sells is boss' armors, all of them are only mediocre and you can still get in new game + (and one of them even requires that anyway). It's actually quite difficult to screw yourself over in dark souls, and if you know what you're doing getting a new char to ng+ is a breeze. you can do 3 in an afternoon, especially if you don't worry about picking up every single item that you won't ever use(most of them are just souls anyway) and just go for what you want to use with that char it's easy. The only way to really screw yourself and have to restart is the new bug if kill Ingward before he gives you the key to the seal he won't drop it, almost every other problem can be solved by just leveling up, advancing the game again, or farming.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
January 13 2013 02:08 GMT
#2118
Yeah, the merchant in the depths isn't important at all. The armors he sell are all decorative boss armors, and unless you're going for pure aesthetics there are better options.

The other way you can screw yourself is by killing Andre the blacksmith, because you won't be able to asccend weapons past +5 and are stuck using Fire/Magic/Divine Weapons and/or Twinkling Titanite weapons, which would be rough for new players. But even that's recoverable since there are some really good weapons that don't use Andre (for example, I currently use Silver Knight Spear and Shield).
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
January 13 2013 09:35 GMT
#2119
This game needs to let me sleep, the pvp, omg.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
January 13 2013 14:43 GMT
#2120
On January 13 2013 18:35 Southlight wrote:
This game needs to let me sleep, the pvp, omg.


Addictive, isn't it? (:
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