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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 20 2012 03:34 GMT
#81
On March 20 2012 10:59 TranceStorm wrote:
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On March 20 2012 10:49 GARO wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:54 justsayinbro wrote:
So niners are without a qb now? I would imagine Alex smith would want to stay w niners instead of dolphins who he's beening talking w lately.



Smith rejected 3 years for 24 when Flynn just signed 3 for 26, so yeah, he's not going to find anything close to that out there, even with desperate cheap Miami. The question is if Manning to Denver + Miami situation gives him a LOT more leverage with SF now.

Yeah, I was under the impression that Smith was holding out at the beginning with the expectation that he would eventually get a deal with the 49ers. However, their interest in Manning really scared Smith and forced him to take a look at Miami. I'm not sure how much faith they have with Kaepernick, but Smith probably has quite a bit of leverage now.


They don't have much immediate faith in him to start THIS year and win a super bowl. Right now Kaepernick is still an extremely athletic guy with a cannon for an arm, but unfortunately his weakness is that he doesn't vary his throw speeds, he seems like a "one speed" thrower as they call it. He needs minimum another year to develop into a starter and 1.5 years til he can be an above average QB at best. This is why you offer a 3 year deal to Smith, and only guarnateed money in the first two years, because the 49ers want to leave the door open for Kaepernick's successing
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Saeglopur
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada177 Posts
March 20 2012 04:01 GMT
#82
1) Jacksonville gets Tebow for a 5th round pick.

2) Blaine Gabbert mysteriously drowns. Tebow declared starter.

3) Every home game is packed to the brim. Jags proceed to go 1-15 and get the first pick of the 2013 draft.

4) Jags drafts their franchise QB....be it Barkley or next year's edition of athletic black guy who comes out of nowhere and throw + run for 9000+ yards.

5) Tebow retires after finishing the season with 12 TDs against 26 INTs. He would unretire 3 days later to join the CFL where he belongs.


Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 20 2012 04:12 GMT
#83
On March 20 2012 13:01 Saeglopur wrote:
1) Jacksonville gets Tebow for a 5th round pick.

2) Blaine Gabbert mysteriously drowns. Tebow declared starter.

3) Every home game is packed to the brim. Jags proceed to go 1-15 and get the first pick of the 2013 draft.

4) Jags drafts their franchise QB....be it Barkley or next year's edition of athletic black guy who comes out of nowhere and throw + run for 9000+ yards.

5) Tebow retires after finishing the season with 12 TDs against 26 INTs. He would unretire 3 days later to join the CFL where he belongs.




So Tebow is Doug Flutie? God had two sons?
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FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
March 20 2012 04:21 GMT
#84
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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 20 2012 05:51 GMT
#85
On March 20 2012 12:32 Zlasher wrote:
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On March 20 2012 10:58 cLutZ wrote:
On March 20 2012 10:49 GARO wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:54 justsayinbro wrote:
So niners are without a qb now? I would imagine Alex smith would want to stay w niners instead of dolphins who he's beening talking w lately.



Smith rejected 3 years for 24 when Flynn just signed 3 for 26, so yeah, he's not going to find anything close to that out there, even with desperate cheap Miami. The question is if Manning to Denver + Miami situation gives him a LOT more leverage with SF now.


I don't see why SF doesn't just use a low draft pick on a QB. Its really hard to imagine anyone being worse than Alex Smith long term.


Low pick QB? You must really know nothing about football or the 49ers lol, when has a low pick QB ever been successful outside of Tom Brady? It is so rare. Not to mention last year the 49ers traded up to draft Colin Kaepernick out of Nevada in the 2nd round. There is no rookie that could come from the NFL and do better than Alex Smith can in the second year of this offense and this many years with his teammates, in their first year. Not even Andrew Luck or RG3. Those two guys will be much better down the road but they wouldn't have the success alex gets immediately. Plus those are far from low draft picks, those are franchise QB's that'll be taken in the top 2 picks.

Alex Smith isn't a long term investment, that is why they are only offering 3 years 24 mil. It is meant to lead to Kaepernick after 2-3 years in the system, who Baalke and Harbaugh both really like.


NATE DAVIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



jk. Hasselbeck was a low rd QB as well though, but yeah generally it works out about once every never and the 49ers just drafted a QB in the 2nd round who's raw as shiet so...

I really don't see where else Alex has to go. And yeah... I pretty much agree with this:


My friend put this on FB, and I thought it was a good enough status to post somewhere else.

"Dear Alex Smith,

Your team was trying to get Peyton Manning. That's like a preacher taking a seat because Jesus walked into the church!!! So don't take it personal. And remember the 49ers are the team that has stuck with you...up until last season you were about an ass hair away from the CFL or Arena League Football."

I'm not saying anyone is saying Smith won't go back there, but he'd have to be a really huge ass to not go back.


Like honestly... say I'm flipping burgers at McDonald's or In-N-Out or whatever and I find out my manager is trying to replace me with Peyton Manning... well fuck it man my future's in his hands, but it's no reason for me to start pouting about it... Maybe Peyton decides he wants to make pizzas instead and my job is saved... I'M STILL NOT PISSED OFF AT MANAGEMENT FOR TRYING TO REPLACE ME WITH PEYTON MOTHER-FUCKING MANNING. Manup Alex Smith, get over it, and take your 8mill/year contract like you're suppose to or go enjoy the suckfest that is the Cleveland Browns.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
March 20 2012 08:15 GMT
#86
So we can all agree that Manning is a pretty good QB. However the Bronco receiving corp looks awfully weak, including the loss of Eddie Royal. Curious to see if they will make a play for Mike Wallace, surely someone has to since he is just sitting pretty there. Broncos would be in a great spot, if acquiring would only have to give up the 25th pick in the draft.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 20 2012 14:54 GMT
#87
On March 20 2012 14:51 nemY wrote:
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On March 20 2012 12:32 Zlasher wrote:
On March 20 2012 10:58 cLutZ wrote:
On March 20 2012 10:49 GARO wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:54 justsayinbro wrote:
So niners are without a qb now? I would imagine Alex smith would want to stay w niners instead of dolphins who he's beening talking w lately.



Smith rejected 3 years for 24 when Flynn just signed 3 for 26, so yeah, he's not going to find anything close to that out there, even with desperate cheap Miami. The question is if Manning to Denver + Miami situation gives him a LOT more leverage with SF now.


I don't see why SF doesn't just use a low draft pick on a QB. Its really hard to imagine anyone being worse than Alex Smith long term.


Low pick QB? You must really know nothing about football or the 49ers lol, when has a low pick QB ever been successful outside of Tom Brady? It is so rare. Not to mention last year the 49ers traded up to draft Colin Kaepernick out of Nevada in the 2nd round. There is no rookie that could come from the NFL and do better than Alex Smith can in the second year of this offense and this many years with his teammates, in their first year. Not even Andrew Luck or RG3. Those two guys will be much better down the road but they wouldn't have the success alex gets immediately. Plus those are far from low draft picks, those are franchise QB's that'll be taken in the top 2 picks.

Alex Smith isn't a long term investment, that is why they are only offering 3 years 24 mil. It is meant to lead to Kaepernick after 2-3 years in the system, who Baalke and Harbaugh both really like.


NATE DAVIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



jk. Hasselbeck was a low rd QB as well though, but yeah generally it works out about once every never and the 49ers just drafted a QB in the 2nd round who's raw as shiet so...

I really don't see where else Alex has to go. And yeah... I pretty much agree with this:

Show nested quote +

My friend put this on FB, and I thought it was a good enough status to post somewhere else.

"Dear Alex Smith,

Your team was trying to get Peyton Manning. That's like a preacher taking a seat because Jesus walked into the church!!! So don't take it personal. And remember the 49ers are the team that has stuck with you...up until last season you were about an ass hair away from the CFL or Arena League Football."

I'm not saying anyone is saying Smith won't go back there, but he'd have to be a really huge ass to not go back.


Like honestly... say I'm flipping burgers at McDonald's or In-N-Out or whatever and I find out my manager is trying to replace me with Peyton Manning... well fuck it man my future's in his hands, but it's no reason for me to start pouting about it... Maybe Peyton decides he wants to make pizzas instead and my job is saved... I'M STILL NOT PISSED OFF AT MANAGEMENT FOR TRYING TO REPLACE ME WITH PEYTON MOTHER-FUCKING MANNING. Manup Alex Smith, get over it, and take your 8mill/year contract like you're suppose to or go enjoy the suckfest that is the Cleveland Browns.


Speaking of Nate Davis I'm so fucking sick of 49ers fans who think our 3rd stringers are actually NFL starters

THERE IS A REASON THAT THEY ARE THIRD STRINGER QB'S. Troy Davis, Nate Davis, Scott Tolzien, these guys fucking suck, low draft pick QBs suck unless they're named Tom Brady which was one in a million.

Hasselbeck is different since at least he was in a system behind Brett Favre for a few years and when he got his few tosses in he showed to be decent. Then over in Seattle the new management there had come from GB and had seen Hasselbeck play. I'm talking about straight up 6/7 round picks that sit in 3rd string for 2 seasons until they get cut, they're not starters, ever.

And your second comment nailed it. I honestly don't think Smith is that angry or pissed at all, its just the media blowing shit up that they heard "From a close friend of Alex". Alex has put up with stupider shit AKA mike FUCKING Nolan so something this small isn't going to bug him.
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Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
March 20 2012 16:56 GMT
#88
I've always been a Tom / Patriots guy so I despise the Colts and Peyton. I have to say that I'm PISSED that the Colts got the number 1 pick and get Luck... They had their franchise QB for a long time, and now it SHOULD be their turn to be pitiful for 10 years searching for another like everyone else.

I hope Luck is the next Ryan Leaf....
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Atokad
Profile Joined November 2010
United States204 Posts
March 20 2012 17:01 GMT
#89
Soon Tebow will realize that he isn't QB material and switch to TE like he should have when he entered the draft.
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Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
March 20 2012 17:04 GMT
#90
I didn't expect this, I heard this morning the odds of Denver winning the Superbowl jumped from like 1 in 56 or something like that, to 1 in 8
Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
March 20 2012 17:05 GMT
#91
On March 21 2012 01:56 Neo.NEt wrote:
I've always been a Tom / Patriots guy so I despise the Colts and Peyton. I have to say that I'm PISSED that the Colts got the number 1 pick and get Luck... They had their franchise QB for a long time, and now it SHOULD be their turn to be pitiful for 10 years searching for another like everyone else.

I hope Luck is the next Ryan Leaf....


Long time Raider fan here. Relax number #1 draft pick QB is not instant back to glory. Cough JaMarcus Russell Cough hah.
It is what it is
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
March 20 2012 17:07 GMT
#92
If he really wanted to compete for a Super Bowl right away he should've gone to SF.
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
March 20 2012 17:39 GMT
#93
Well he got one hell of a great deal in Denver so i can see what the guy was thinking... 96 million over 5 years. 18 Million smackers this year then 20 million each of the next 2 if he passes his physical.
ReDShiFT
Profile Joined March 2009
United States106 Posts
March 20 2012 18:15 GMT
#94
On March 20 2012 23:54 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 14:51 nemY wrote:
On March 20 2012 12:32 Zlasher wrote:
On March 20 2012 10:58 cLutZ wrote:
On March 20 2012 10:49 GARO wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:54 justsayinbro wrote:
So niners are without a qb now? I would imagine Alex smith would want to stay w niners instead of dolphins who he's beening talking w lately.



Smith rejected 3 years for 24 when Flynn just signed 3 for 26, so yeah, he's not going to find anything close to that out there, even with desperate cheap Miami. The question is if Manning to Denver + Miami situation gives him a LOT more leverage with SF now.


I don't see why SF doesn't just use a low draft pick on a QB. Its really hard to imagine anyone being worse than Alex Smith long term.


Low pick QB? You must really know nothing about football or the 49ers lol, when has a low pick QB ever been successful outside of Tom Brady? It is so rare. Not to mention last year the 49ers traded up to draft Colin Kaepernick out of Nevada in the 2nd round. There is no rookie that could come from the NFL and do better than Alex Smith can in the second year of this offense and this many years with his teammates, in their first year. Not even Andrew Luck or RG3. Those two guys will be much better down the road but they wouldn't have the success alex gets immediately. Plus those are far from low draft picks, those are franchise QB's that'll be taken in the top 2 picks.

Alex Smith isn't a long term investment, that is why they are only offering 3 years 24 mil. It is meant to lead to Kaepernick after 2-3 years in the system, who Baalke and Harbaugh both really like.


NATE DAVIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



jk. Hasselbeck was a low rd QB as well though, but yeah generally it works out about once every never and the 49ers just drafted a QB in the 2nd round who's raw as shiet so...

I really don't see where else Alex has to go. And yeah... I pretty much agree with this:


My friend put this on FB, and I thought it was a good enough status to post somewhere else.

"Dear Alex Smith,

Your team was trying to get Peyton Manning. That's like a preacher taking a seat because Jesus walked into the church!!! So don't take it personal. And remember the 49ers are the team that has stuck with you...up until last season you were about an ass hair away from the CFL or Arena League Football."

I'm not saying anyone is saying Smith won't go back there, but he'd have to be a really huge ass to not go back.


Like honestly... say I'm flipping burgers at McDonald's or In-N-Out or whatever and I find out my manager is trying to replace me with Peyton Manning... well fuck it man my future's in his hands, but it's no reason for me to start pouting about it... Maybe Peyton decides he wants to make pizzas instead and my job is saved... I'M STILL NOT PISSED OFF AT MANAGEMENT FOR TRYING TO REPLACE ME WITH PEYTON MOTHER-FUCKING MANNING. Manup Alex Smith, get over it, and take your 8mill/year contract like you're suppose to or go enjoy the suckfest that is the Cleveland Browns.


Speaking of Nate Davis I'm so fucking sick of 49ers fans who think our 3rd stringers are actually NFL starters

THERE IS A REASON THAT THEY ARE THIRD STRINGER QB'S. Troy Davis, Nate Davis, Scott Tolzien, these guys fucking suck, low draft pick QBs suck unless they're named Tom Brady which was one in a million.

Hasselbeck is different since at least he was in a system behind Brett Favre for a few years and when he got his few tosses in he showed to be decent. Then over in Seattle the new management there had come from GB and had seen Hasselbeck play. I'm talking about straight up 6/7 round picks that sit in 3rd string for 2 seasons until they get cut, they're not starters, ever.

And your second comment nailed it. I honestly don't think Smith is that angry or pissed at all, its just the media blowing shit up that they heard "From a close friend of Alex". Alex has put up with stupider shit AKA mike FUCKING Nolan so something this small isn't going to bug him.

Two more to add to the list beside or close to Tom Brady are Kurt Warner, undrafted, and Marc Bulger, 6th rounder.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32080 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 18:56:46
March 20 2012 18:50 GMT
#95
On March 20 2012 11:04 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
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On March 20 2012 02:53 Hawk wrote:
Thomas is the only decent WR there, with potential to grow. Decker is nothing more than average, and just clicked with Tebow a lot because they started on the practice team together early on. He's not the second coming of McCaffrey. Royal is gone, and he was the real gem there outside of Thomas. Manning kills it with speedsters who run sharp routes.

The bit about the pass rush d is true, but that rush comes from exactly two spots and you'd imagine teams with a year of tape on Miller will cover him better in 12-13. Champ and Dawkins are all they have in the secondary, and as good as they are, they looked like players i ntheir mid 30s several times last year.

The line is pretty decent, but i think them as good runners is slightly misleading. That has a lot more of what they were running and how that style of play complimented the line/Tebow. Moreano is running himself out of the league with his play, and Willis McGahee, as much as he rules, is 32 or 33.

I still think based on the AFCW being pretty meh overall, they have a decent enough shot to win the west. However, the Chargers are still talent wise the best team and Rivers + Meachem, Royle, Floyd, Gates and Matthews is lightyears better. Their D is also in the same ballpark. It is very farm from the guarantee that they come out of the division, as everyone seems to think. I definitely do not think that team goes anywhere in the playoffs based on numerous holes that they have.

The biggest hurdle of all is going to be getting all those WRs on the same page as Peyton. These dudes were running an offense last year that had what, 30 different passing plays? And they're all young too. It's not like it is some savy wrs taking a few weeks and getting in there.

On March 20 2012 02:35 Zorkmid wrote:
On March 20 2012 02:32 TriO wrote:
Manning doesn't want to take a pay cut(aka his ego is too big to take less money) to win another championship thats why he took Broncos over 49ers. I really hope this ends badly for him.


Or maybe he just likes Denver...thinks it's a better team/city.


It's money and the team's willingness to adapt to whatever suits him. It's certainly not the team being better than the Titans, or definitely not the niners. Both teams have way more talent on offense, and d's that are as good or much, much better


You guys are looking at the problem in the wrong light. $40M in cap space is the #1 reason to go to Denver. Do they have everything in place today? No. Can they in the next few weeks? Yes. They can get Mike Wallace (because the Steelers won't have the cap space to match the offer/they don't pay WR's), and they can get Dallas Clark. Now tell me that's not a better corp of pass catchers than any other team in the division... assuming it happens.

People are way too caught up on the stats of the WR's last year. Decker led the team with like 42 catches, and the next best was around 20, but look at who they had throwing to them.

Denver is not as bad as people are making them out to be. Not to mention that the issue is getting to the playoffs... you have to get there before you can go to the big show... Do you really think that's going to happen in Tennessee? Not with the Texans over there. They won't win the division anyway. Kenny Britt isn't significantly better than anyone that the Broncos have, though he has looked very good at times... CJ is better, obviously, but that's if he decides to come to play this season. Their defense lost a couple of key players in the off season too, so who knows what that'll be like.

SF would have been the best team for him to go to, but I think most people were under the impression that he wanted to be in the AFC still. Denver gives him the easiest road to the playoffs, and a pretty good team with a lot of money to make a lot of moves to get better FAST.

Moreover, people concerned about time for the receivers to learn, because they're young... it's better than having some veterans who have played in X system for 5-10 years, and will have a hard time adjusting to new schemes. Young WR's are probably ideal in this situation. PLUS, Peyton is allowed to workout with those guys pretty soon... maybe immediately. They can't work out at the Broncos facilities, nor with the coaches, but they don't need either one of those things to have good workouts... these guys would be working with Peyton Fucking Manning... who needs an OC when you have the OC on the field with you?

The reasonable talent on offense, decent defense (albeit old), and cap space all make Denver a good landing place for Manning. Denver is going to do EVERYTHING they need to do to get a ring this year. There is plenty of space to make moves right now, and there are still a few decent players on both sides of the ball out in FA. Addai is out there, and even though I don't think much of him, he averages over 4 ypc on a team that didn't run the ball, and he can catch out of the backfield. He'll come cheaply too. Dallas Clark, whoever is there for the line (they have a decent Center in Denver already, if you bring in Saturday, now you have a veteran C, and move the current C to G, and you have a good G too). They have one of the best LT's in the league, granted, he hasn't been as good as he was in his first two years, that can all change.

People are missing the "Peyton-factor" too. He makes everyone on the offense better by default. Problems with the O-Line are lessened, because proper shifts and protections are called by the QB and (probably) veteran center. That was almost certainly NOT happening last year with Tebow or Orton. WR's are better because they're working with one of the best in the game. The running game is not necessarily hurt, because they're working with a good O-Line and have a real passing attack, so they'll probably not see a lot of 8-9 in the box. McGahee is fine at HB right now, maybe they get a guy off the market... $40M in cap space... tons of room to make moves for anyone that is out there, and future picks to bring in good players from other teams that may be struggling right now (maybe trade a pick for Samuel or something)...


I would be amazed if the Steelers didn't match Wallace if someone were to go after him. A 1st is not nearly enough compensation for him (and I am surprised they didn't qualify him at 1st/3rd rate for an extra .5m to tell people to really fuck off). They're at about $6m in space now and can surely make room for a dude who is right now a top 10 WR in the game. And they've made a determined effort to put the ball through Ben more (prorated 16 games he is between 500-550 attempts last few years vs 400-450 earlier in his career).

Second, I would be kind of surprised if Wallace did sign a deal. Because of the penalty, they'd have to make it really high to get the Steelers to not bite. On top of that, next year as a legit UFA (without a franchise at least), he could very easily make top 5 receiver money. Most teams won't put a bid in this year so they don't get tagged with a first and he/his agent know that. He'd likely get more as a UFA and would have his pick of teams vs signing a big money 5-7 year deal with Denver and have Peyton for 2-3 years and then a scrub/rookie.

Clark they could obviously get, and for cheap, and probably ditto for Addai (who'd make sense--they need a speedy dude, which better compliments Peyton, though McGahee can still be reasonably effective) However, I still do not like the skill players there on the whole. I think Thomas can be legit, but he is still young and probably a year or two away. I think Decker is nothing more than a big 3 who just clicked with Tebow because they both had a lot of time practing together with the b squad last year (actually a bulk of his stats came from Orton but whatever, I don't think he's anything special). Point is that without a major upgrade in the form of Wallace, that is a pretty iffy core, and this late in FA signings, it's not getting much better. (full list: http://www.footballsfuture.com/2012/fa/wr.html)

Also, I just disagree with the bit about young WRs being better for this. Someone who knows the ins and outs of pro offenses will just more quickly adapt and learn, and I doubt someoen is gonna be really bull headed with Peyton.

As far as the D, that is the team's strength, but it's weird. It's definitely pass rush based, but it is not like the Colts D. That pass rush, pure speed and ball hawking. They were always a pretty solid unit. If Peyton can give them 7 or 14 point leads early, they definitely have enough potential to make it work, but they definitely can use some help.

I dunno, overall the best I can see them going is 10-6. But at the same time, I can see the Chargers doing that as well, and possibly even the Raiders. They also all might go 8-8 or so again because they've got a pretty rough schedule with the AFCN and NFCS on deck. Overall, I just don't see that team having very good odds vs any of New England, Baltimore, Houston or Pittsburgh.

Any given sunday and stuff, but I think there is only so much Peyton can bring up a team without a ton of help. People forget that as great as he was, he had some very, very good skill guys around him. Wayne is great, Garcon is actually pretty damn good (but made a poor choice with Washington haha) and Collie ain't too shabby either. They all actually had decent stats considering how inept that offense was at points. Obviously, Clark was damn good too but I am not sure how much his skills have deteriorated


On March 20 2012 23:54 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 14:51 nemY wrote:
On March 20 2012 12:32 Zlasher wrote:
On March 20 2012 10:58 cLutZ wrote:
On March 20 2012 10:49 GARO wrote:
On March 20 2012 09:54 justsayinbro wrote:
So niners are without a qb now? I would imagine Alex smith would want to stay w niners instead of dolphins who he's beening talking w lately.



Smith rejected 3 years for 24 when Flynn just signed 3 for 26, so yeah, he's not going to find anything close to that out there, even with desperate cheap Miami. The question is if Manning to Denver + Miami situation gives him a LOT more leverage with SF now.


I don't see why SF doesn't just use a low draft pick on a QB. Its really hard to imagine anyone being worse than Alex Smith long term.


Low pick QB? You must really know nothing about football or the 49ers lol, when has a low pick QB ever been successful outside of Tom Brady? It is so rare. Not to mention last year the 49ers traded up to draft Colin Kaepernick out of Nevada in the 2nd round. There is no rookie that could come from the NFL and do better than Alex Smith can in the second year of this offense and this many years with his teammates, in their first year. Not even Andrew Luck or RG3. Those two guys will be much better down the road but they wouldn't have the success alex gets immediately. Plus those are far from low draft picks, those are franchise QB's that'll be taken in the top 2 picks.

Alex Smith isn't a long term investment, that is why they are only offering 3 years 24 mil. It is meant to lead to Kaepernick after 2-3 years in the system, who Baalke and Harbaugh both really like.


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jk. Hasselbeck was a low rd QB as well though, but yeah generally it works out about once every never and the 49ers just drafted a QB in the 2nd round who's raw as shiet so...

I really don't see where else Alex has to go. And yeah... I pretty much agree with this:


My friend put this on FB, and I thought it was a good enough status to post somewhere else.

"Dear Alex Smith,

Your team was trying to get Peyton Manning. That's like a preacher taking a seat because Jesus walked into the church!!! So don't take it personal. And remember the 49ers are the team that has stuck with you...up until last season you were about an ass hair away from the CFL or Arena League Football."

I'm not saying anyone is saying Smith won't go back there, but he'd have to be a really huge ass to not go back.


Like honestly... say I'm flipping burgers at McDonald's or In-N-Out or whatever and I find out my manager is trying to replace me with Peyton Manning... well fuck it man my future's in his hands, but it's no reason for me to start pouting about it... Maybe Peyton decides he wants to make pizzas instead and my job is saved... I'M STILL NOT PISSED OFF AT MANAGEMENT FOR TRYING TO REPLACE ME WITH PEYTON MOTHER-FUCKING MANNING. Manup Alex Smith, get over it, and take your 8mill/year contract like you're suppose to or go enjoy the suckfest that is the Cleveland Browns.


Speaking of Nate Davis I'm so fucking sick of 49ers fans who think our 3rd stringers are actually NFL starters

THERE IS A REASON THAT THEY ARE THIRD STRINGER QB'S. Troy Davis, Nate Davis, Scott Tolzien, these guys fucking suck, low draft pick QBs suck unless they're named Tom Brady which was one in a million.


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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
March 20 2012 21:58 GMT
#96
Five years, $95 million. Manning has to pass a physical each year in order to get the money. Broncos have plenty of cap room. A great deal for them, all things considered.
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
March 20 2012 22:20 GMT
#97
On March 21 2012 06:58 motbob wrote:
Five years, $95 million. Manning has to pass a physical each year in order to get the money. Broncos have plenty of cap room. A great deal for them, all things considered.

It worked out nicely for both, the money scheme works like this.

He will make 18M in 2012. If he passes the physical in 2013, 20M. Plays out similar for the remaining years on the contract, but lets just hope for at least 2 healthy years.

John Elway mentioned during the press conference that they do have another big move in the works. Not many big players left, other than Mike Wallace, and that would be a good move. Or maybe its just as simple as picking up Peyton's old C in Jeff Saturday.

All of this Bronco excitement has really made me overlook how great Seattle is doing with FA. Michael Bush visited there today, and I hope that turns out well. He would be a nice second option behind Lynch. As well as them having to pick one of the TE's soon. I'm leaning for them picking Visanthe Shiancoe.Flynn is no Manning, but Seattle stepping up big, very excited for them.
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
March 20 2012 23:02 GMT
#98
Does ONE american football player changing team really deserve it's own thread? :s
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
March 20 2012 23:41 GMT
#99
On March 21 2012 08:02 Roflhaxx wrote:
Does ONE american football player changing team really deserve it's own thread? :s


It's not one american football player, it's Peyton Manning. The QB who made me root for the Colts almost as hard as I rooted for the Broncos, now plays for the Broncos. I'm so giddy I couldn't think of anything else today until it was made official. Even if he performs below expectations, it's still something I never believed could happen until it became clear that the Colts weren't going to keep him. I haven't been truly excited about the Broncos for a while now.

Can't wait till the new jerseys are up for sale. Just hope Nike didn't completely fuck it all up.

Dallas Clark should be coming as well as there's a very clear need for TEs in Denver, and maybe Saturday. Could help him with his adaptation process.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32080 Posts
March 20 2012 23:45 GMT
#100
Honestly, I think Flynn could very easily go the route of Schaub, or totally bust. That Packer offense is really that good. Seattle's is not. That Doug Baldwin kid is pretty good though. Rice, I always wonder how much of his success was with Farve having a career year and AP freeing up a safety over top on deep plays. Lynch had himself a nice revival, but he is not in the AP category.

For the Broncos, maybe someone who knows more about their line can chime in, but I thought that they were pretty good? Saturday would have instant chemistry with Peyton obviously, but why mess with it if the incumbent is already good?
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