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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11800 Posts
March 10 2012 16:28 GMT
#701
I couldn't name a single game where you don't need to understand the underlying rules to know what you are doing. In the case of BG, those rules just happen to be the AD&D rules. You don't need any prior knowledge beyond what you are given in game and handbook. Obviously you need to learn the rules to make what you do make more sense, but that should be obvious for any game.

Also, games of the BG era just explained concepts a bit differently. While modern games explain stuff through lots of tooltips and tutorials, older games tended to do that in the handbook.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
March 10 2012 17:36 GMT
#702
What I said, or what I wanted to say was. That in my experience you need to know the rules to really know what you're doing. You can play the game fine sure, I figured out things by myself too. I think 2d4 means throwing 2 dice with 4 options. I could be very wrong on that but still you figure out things by yourself.

What I actually meant was, you need to know the rules to know what is happening behind the curtains, the background stuff you don't see is what I meant. But if you just want to play the game or a good difficulty you don't really need to, that's true.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
ashLoo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States202 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 18:10:10
March 10 2012 18:07 GMT
#703
...Is this some sort of sick troll?

I loved the BG series played them when I was younger.

EDIT: Just went to the Atari twitter and they released a new version of pong...da fuck?...zzz
sneep
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
March 10 2012 19:50 GMT
#704
2d4 means 2 4 sided dice ... its where the damage range of 2-8 comes from rather than 1-8 from 1d8

kinda simple really

(tetrahedron)
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
March 11 2012 09:07 GMT
#705
I was really expecting to see something come out of the GDC from Mr Trent Oster / Beamdog as it seems they are behind everything, disappointed Oh well, maybe they were just tired and we will have a big announcement on Monday.

On the other hand, if they're just in the process of "talking" with parties involved with the BG series, I'm afraid we won't see anything for quite a while.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
March 11 2012 16:46 GMT
#706
On March 11 2012 04:50 MrTortoise wrote:
2d4 means 2 4 sided dice ... its where the damage range of 2-8 comes from rather than 1-8 from 1d8

kinda simple really

(tetrahedron)



Yeah that's what I had figured.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 16:58:22
March 11 2012 16:52 GMT
#707
On March 11 2012 01:15 Boblion wrote:
When i played BG for the first time i didn't really care about the rules once i figured that thaco and ac need to be low. You guys are way too much into powergaming / minimaxing and autistic stuff like that lol.


Try that on a harder difficulty than easy and your screwed. Some people actually like a challenge and figuring stuff out. Doesn't have anything to do with "autistic stuff".

You don't even have to do a lot to learn about the underlying ruleset.The hints in the manual and the game itself are enough to learn about the rules. You just have to read carefully like an autist does, you know?
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 17:36:28
March 11 2012 17:24 GMT
#708
Good try man but i have soloed the game, played SCSI, SCSII and tactics. Nah really when i played the game for the first time i didn't give a fuck about ADD rules, i just wanted to explore stuff lol.
Now if you like to wank over your sick l33t optimized build it is all fine. I enjoyed the game even when i couldn't tell the difference between D8 and 2D4.

Also shut up about "difficulty", if you have played the hard mods you should know it is all about being a save/reload whore, abusing the pathfiding/fow/pause and some retarded combos and using your knowledge of the game to get the best items asap (Sup Drizzt). Yep it is really that autistic.

If you want to be manly go play a roguelike.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
esKq
Profile Joined April 2010
France134 Posts
March 12 2012 09:46 GMT
#709
The powerplay in BG really ruins it for me. I need a full party to enjoy the game.

A 8 or 10 man party in the BG series would really make my day, I'm pretty sure that the lack of XP cause by such a big party would make the game more interesting/challenging.
IdrA : "I don't play Terran coz I have self respect"
sk1nex
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland299 Posts
March 12 2012 09:51 GMT
#710
On February 29 2012 09:04 Shockk wrote:
Probably too good to be true. Especially considering the time passed, the change in publishers, the recent controversy around BioWare and the general trend of the gaming industry. Chances are we'll see a hack'n'slash third-person game filled with microtransactions released in late 2014.

I really, really want to believe, as Baldur's Gate easily is my favorite gaming franchise of all time, but I doubt a new part could reach or even surpass the older games in quality, scope and replay value.

Imagine this:

What BG3 could be like today, with Bioware once again creating the game and with the powerhouse that is EA publishing it!

Coming in early 2013: Baldur's Gate 3!

- Scroll Wheel™ dialogue selection options!
- Paragon© or Renegade® character development unlockable with Collector's Edition or 10$ on-launch DLC!
- 1st and 2nd tier spells exclusively available through Facebook events!
- Expand your party with the on-launch Minsc™, Edwin™ and Boo™ DLCs, each only 4,99$!
- Origin exclusive for superior user experience and veteran support (You will surely get the Karkland Waterdeep!)

In order to create a genuine D&D experience for everyone, we have done away with the tedious gameplay of previous games! Dialogues have been decreased to single setences! Combat now features Mass Effect's proven Space Bar™ action system for proning, crouching, attacking, covering, sprinting AND drinking potions!

Staying true to EA's commitment to quality and lasting franchises, be prepared for Baldur's Gate 4: Waterdeep in summer 2013, Baldur's Gate 5: Demigod in late 2013 and Baldur's Gate 6: Astral Plane (PS3 exlusive) in spring 2014!


No words can describe on how much i laughed about this.
"Im at Quakecon, Gonna win the Duel and TDM. Quake is easy" (c) 2GD | NTHNTHNTHNTHNTHNTH
esKq
Profile Joined April 2010
France134 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 10:30:57
March 12 2012 10:12 GMT
#711
On March 12 2012 18:51 sk1nex wrote:No words can describe on how much i laughed about this.


Aside from the laughter, with everything that's going on in the video games industry, it felt possible to see such an annoucement if BG2 had been released in 2012 rather than 2000.
IdrA : "I don't play Terran coz I have self respect"
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 10:47:58
March 12 2012 10:46 GMT
#712
On March 11 2012 01:15 Boblion wrote:
When i played BG for the first time i didn't really care about the rules once i figured that thaco and ac need to be low. You guys are way too much into powergaming / minimaxing and autistic stuff like that lol.

Roleplaying is not just about the ruleset and maths.

I agree, you can easily finish BG without knowing dice rolls and stuff, and i find it good(thats the point of crpg to automate this for you). The only flaw of combat in BG was for me, beyond screen killing (fireballs to edge of the screen etc). Also it was to easy to exploit some fights with traps. Sometimes it was really tempting to put 10 aoe spells before enemy attacked you, because losing 1 character was basically reload(it was to troublesome with reviving and gearing again a specially when all of your chars got full inv). Thats why i kinda liked Fallout system better(imho the most enjoyable in rpgs), or even planescape where fights were less "epic" so less focused on casting 20 spells ASAP. I mean if we breakdown BG later fights its pausing non-stop almost like turn based. But definately the EPIC is the word here, it makes it both autistic and enjoyable in its own way.

Dont hate on Mass Effect, its still a pinnacle of video gaming considering current trends
Stork[gm]
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
March 12 2012 11:02 GMT
#713
On March 11 2012 04:50 MrTortoise wrote:
2d4 means 2 4 sided dice ... its where the damage range of 2-8 comes from rather than 1-8 from 1d8

kinda simple really

(tetrahedron)


well and the distribution changes. 2d4 makes it a binomial on 2-8 with 5 being most likely, a single d7 would also give 2-8 but uniform.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 11:18:50
March 12 2012 11:18 GMT
#714
On March 12 2012 19:46 bgx wrote:Dont hate on Mass Effect, its still a pinnacle of video gaming considering current trends

I don't think Mass Effect even has a place in the discussion, it was never a real RPG, and I'm confident that BioWare never had any intention to make it deep in the way that cRPG fans want. The changes from ME1 to ME2 confirms this since many of the light RPG elements in ME1 made the game worse and they decided to remove most of the RPG aspects. It's easy to blame BioWare for simplifying the game for the casual masses, and there's probably some truth in that, but overall, I think ME1 was an attempt to do something new and for ME2, they had realized what worked and what didn't.

A much deeper RPG in the mass effect universe would be awesome, but I don't think that's the direction the main mass effect franchise wants to go, it has a huge following of people who don't want an RPG but prefer the action-adventure style it has right now. It's not that people are stupid, they just aren't deep RPG fans.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
March 12 2012 11:39 GMT
#715
They sure as hell are taking their sweet time about it.. Come on please, let us know whats up already... If its an iPad game, people are going to flame them to bits for putting people through this wait :-[
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Delial
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland217 Posts
March 12 2012 11:42 GMT
#716
So, nothing came up? Any news about new BG? Why this site is up?
Runbunny
Profile Joined May 2010
36 Posts
March 12 2012 13:07 GMT
#717
I didn't read through all of the thread, but did you guys check out the source code for the site? there seems to be some messages there.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
March 12 2012 13:08 GMT
#718
On March 12 2012 22:07 Runbunny wrote:
I didn't read through all of the thread, but did you guys check out the source code for the site? there seems to be some messages there.

If you read like... 20% of the thread, you would know it has been brought up like a hundred times.
Amnesty
Profile Joined April 2003
United States2054 Posts
March 12 2012 19:23 GMT
#719
On March 12 2012 20:42 Delial wrote:
So, nothing came up? Any news about new BG? Why this site is up?


The 'Big News' announcement cited in the OP from Atari seems to have been unrelated to anything about Baldurs Gate. It was this Pong for smart phones thing.

The site however, is certainly a place holder for something on the horizon related to BG. The only question is if its BG3 or Remakes/Ports of BG or BG2. And i would guess the latter.




The sky just is, and goes on and on; and we play all our BW games beneath it.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
March 12 2012 20:42 GMT
#720
UGH! just tell us already !!!
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
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