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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32080 Posts
March 12 2012 20:10 GMT
#141
LOOOOOOOL

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/03/12/league-fines-cowboys-and-redskins-for-cap-issues

Skins losing $36m for flipping Goodell the bird in the no cap season

so much for getting those FA signings!
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 20:15:14
March 12 2012 20:13 GMT
#142


Oh god that would've been sexy.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32080 Posts
March 12 2012 20:54 GMT
#143
Also, the Niners worked out Randy Moss today. No word on how it went yet.

Thoughs, mr. Nemy??

I am iffy about him because of his past, but he is a good deep ball man, which is what the team really needs along side of Crabtree and Morgan. I can just imagine him breaking Smith's battered little soul.
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BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 21:46:57
March 12 2012 21:40 GMT
#144
On March 13 2012 05:10 Hawk wrote:
LOOOOOOOL

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/03/12/league-fines-cowboys-and-redskins-for-cap-issues

Skins losing $36m for flipping Goodell the bird in the no cap season

so much for getting those FA signings!


Even though Dallas isnt getting hit as hard. I think this is pure bullshit by the NFL. I am going to love hearing the NFL attempt at spinning this story to try and look good. I expect it to go something like this: "Yeah we are punishing a team for breaking no rules but they gained an advantage and we cant allow that. On a related note, all trick plays are also now banned. They also represent attempting to gain an advantage while not explicitly breaking any rules".
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32080 Posts
March 12 2012 21:49 GMT
#145
Yeah, while funny as shit, that is horseshit and I hope they both sue the fuck outta Goodell.

It's funny. I liked Goodell when he came in because he was suspending the shitbags of the league, but since then he's turned into a complete tool
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 13 2012 01:42 GMT
#146
I think these two teams in particular got hit hard because they purposely restructured existing contracts (changed DeAngelo Hall's and Albert Haynesworth's) so that a huge portion of their contracts was re-allocated into the uncapped year.

I don't get why other teams weren't punished though. Julius Peppers's cap hit for the uncapped year was !!!$35 million!!! (almost double the biggest cap hits in capped years) and drops back down to around $10 million in the capped years. If that isn't seriously gaming the system then I don't know what is.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32080 Posts
March 13 2012 02:23 GMT
#147
yeah I didn't do the research but I would be amazed if they were the only team that played games. Wasn't Pepper's deal done the year prior though, maybe in anticipation of that??

Moss is a 49er, per schefter. This could be either really awesome or a total dud. Moss can be a malcontent and his skills seemed diminished in his final year. However, Tiny Hands is really good at heaving it up the gut deep to Davis already. Presumably, he can do the same for Moss. At worst, it takes off the secondary help on Davis. And Moss-Crabtree-Morgan (if resigned)-Davis-Gore kind of gives me a chubby.

At the very least, they seem poised to be a little less dependent on the D shutting down the opposition for liek 15 points a game
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BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
March 13 2012 02:30 GMT
#148
On March 13 2012 11:23 Hawk wrote:
yeah I didn't do the research but I would be amazed if they were the only team that played games. Wasn't Pepper's deal done the year prior though, maybe in anticipation of that??

Moss is a 49er, per schefter. This could be either really awesome or a total dud. Moss can be a malcontent and his skills seemed diminished in his final year. However, Tiny Hands is really good at heaving it up the gut deep to Davis already. Presumably, he can do the same for Moss. At worst, it takes off the secondary help on Davis. And Moss-Crabtree-Morgan (if resigned)-Davis-Gore kind of gives me a chubby.

At the very least, they seem poised to be a little less dependent on the D shutting down the opposition for liek 15 points a game


I honestly think as a 1-2 year rental Moss could be great for whatever team he plays for. I think he is starting to realize (or maybe has realized) that he no longer is the same Randy Moss of old and teams will no longer put up with the baggage since what he brings to the field can be mostly replaced. That said, I would never sign him to anything longer than a 1 year deal just in case.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32080 Posts
March 13 2012 02:32 GMT
#149
I hope so. If he brings it, he's a perfect piece for a team that is a step or two away, which is what the Niners are. Hopefully the allure of a ring gets him pointed the right way as it did in NE
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 13 2012 02:57 GMT
#150
No risk anyways. Probably signed him for very little guaranteed money.

If he works out, great. If he's the same old Moss in the locker room, he's gone in an instant.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
March 13 2012 04:09 GMT
#151
On March 13 2012 11:23 Hawk wrote:
yeah I didn't do the research but I would be amazed if they were the only team that played games. Wasn't Pepper's deal done the year prior though, maybe in anticipation of that??


People are saying that while other teams did it to an extent, for the most part the NFL had actually warned teams not to try to abuse the uncapped league, so teams didn't do it "much." Dallas and the Skins were the most egregious - I believe the Skins deliberately restructured a ridiculous number of contracts and front-loaded everything. That's pretty blatant.

Bearing in mind that the Skins are 40M under the cap, owing primarily to the differential created by the front-loading, I don't think it's particularly "dumb," so to speak. They are just back to where they are. If you think about it, it was more preposterous that they managed to be 40M under the cap despite the fantastic contracts of Haynesworth et all for the last few years, only two years past the Cerrato "stuff the salary cap with guaranteed money" plan. Even if they eat the whole 36M this year (which they may opt to do), they'd STILL be under the cap, without even "freeing up money."
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32080 Posts
March 13 2012 05:12 GMT
#152
I think the thing that does it for me is that is straight up collusion in violation of the cba from what i have read, even if the NFLPA ok'ed it under duress.
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 05:15:57
March 13 2012 05:15 GMT
#153
Snyder has sued grandmas over season tickets and reporters over using his name.

There is no way the Redskins won't sue the NFL over this. It's pretty obvious collusion, and the MHEC basically forced the NFLPA to go along with it.

Per Bruce Allen

“The Washington Redskins have received no written documentation from the NFL concerning adjustments to the team salary cap in 2012 as reported in various media outlets. Every contract entered into by the club during the applicable periods complied with the 2010 and 2011 collective bargaining agreements and, in fact, were approved by the NFL commissioner’s office. We look forward to free agency, the draft and the coming football season.”


And Cowboys

"The Dallas Cowboys were in compliance with all league salary cap rules during the uncapped year," said Dalrymple. "We look forward to the start of the free agency period where our commitment to improving our team remains unchanged."


This situation is the lols.

I hear were still going after VJax
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
March 13 2012 05:23 GMT
#154
Also, ironically, unites the Cowboys and Redskins... and will likely endear both of their owners to their fans.

How's that for irony.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 07:03:43
March 13 2012 07:03 GMT
#155
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GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
March 13 2012 07:22 GMT
#156
On March 13 2012 16:03 GTR wrote:
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Randy talking about Randy.
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
March 13 2012 08:06 GMT
#157
On March 13 2012 14:15 eshlow wrote:
Snyder has sued grandmas over season tickets and reporters over using his name.

There is no way the Redskins won't sue the NFL over this. It's pretty obvious collusion, and the MHEC basically forced the NFLPA to go along with it.

Per Bruce Allen

Show nested quote +
“The Washington Redskins have received no written documentation from the NFL concerning adjustments to the team salary cap in 2012 as reported in various media outlets. Every contract entered into by the club during the applicable periods complied with the 2010 and 2011 collective bargaining agreements and, in fact, were approved by the NFL commissioner’s office. We look forward to free agency, the draft and the coming football season.”


And Cowboys

Show nested quote +
"The Dallas Cowboys were in compliance with all league salary cap rules during the uncapped year," said Dalrymple. "We look forward to the start of the free agency period where our commitment to improving our team remains unchanged."


This situation is the lols.

I hear were still going after VJax


As much as I disagree with you about football, you're 100% right on this one. This is bullshit.

I'm in complete agreement with Hawk on Goodell too. He was pretty awesome when he was suspending guys for being complete fuckwads because they were NFL players and could get away with it in the courtroom (pay-offs and whatnot), but he nixed that stuff and said "cool, you got off in court, but uhh, you're out of the NFL." That was great, but with all this over the top safety stuff, and the constant fines for clean hits... it's getting out of hand.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32080 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 20:35:43
March 13 2012 20:35 GMT
#158
Brandon Marshall to the Bears for two thirds.

Miami is just retarded. Some have speculated that it is because they're making room for Peyton and Wayne, but that franchise is far too incompetent to pull that off, let alone have it work

that is definitely a solid move for the Bears though. While it doesn't address that leaky line, it will take the heat off the pass rush and the rush defense
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BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
March 13 2012 21:07 GMT
#159
On March 14 2012 05:35 Hawk wrote:
Brandon Marshall to the Bears for two thirds.

Miami is just retarded. Some have speculated that it is because they're making room for Peyton and Wayne, but that franchise is far too incompetent to pull that off, let alone have it work

that is definitely a solid move for the Bears though. While it doesn't address that leaky line, it will take the heat off the pass rush and the rush defense


Personally, when I heard this story I immediately thought that Miami is exiting out of the Peyton Manning sweepstakes and is now moving onto what must be Plan Z by this time. Plan Z is to trade off some of their bigger assets and set themselves up for a high draft pick next year in addition to being aggressive in the trade/FA markets.

I got nothing to back that up, its just what ran through my head when I heard the trade announced.
Intact
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden634 Posts
March 13 2012 23:19 GMT
#160
I just hope Manning makes a decision soon so everyone can move on.
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