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NFL 2012 Season - Page 15
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mensrea
Canada5062 Posts
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Saeglopur
Canada177 Posts
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GARO
United States2255 Posts
LOL at Tebow coming here. What are they going to do, have Sparano use him in more Wildcat? | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32080 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On March 22 2012 02:38 ReDShiFT wrote: It is more the psychological aspect of the bounty than the actual financial part of it. I would put it in the same realm as the achievements that have been surfacing in games in the last 10 or so years. It has a small goal to meet that will get you alittle amount of recognition, maybe a title to show off, or just a check in a box of a list. The point is, you specifically try to achieve that goal rather than thinking of the whole game and it's effects. So instead of a player thinking of seeing the play and then attacking the person that has the ball, thee player is thinking when a specific player gets the ball, i will try my best to injure him. It might seem small, but the human brain responds to some very small stimuli. Exactly. I don't know why many people can't see this. Reference the Vikings game a couple of years ago. The Saints were clearly trying to injure Favre with illegal late hits, not all of them called. They did the same thing during the Cardinals game against Kurt Warner, even though it quickly became a blowout. Every team knew that the NFL has been trying to catch a team in the act for years, maybe even decades now. They knew that the first team caught will be set as an example. | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
Crackbacks, hi-lows, brutal hits, helmet-to-helmet contact, horse collars, ect. happen every game. Are we going to start questioning if every illegal play can be attributed to a bounty? | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32080 Posts
Furthermore, the existence of a bounty doesn't mean that players are committing an illegal play to injure someone. And if for some reason an extra $5,000 was worth the $50,000 fine that would incur, where the fuck was the league?? One of the players that did get fined in the Vikes game was literally someone bumping Farve after the idiot tried to get in the way following a dump. There's a compilation on youtube of the hits and 95% look clean | ||
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Saeglopur
Canada177 Posts
On March 22 2012 05:25 Hawk wrote: Yeah they were almost all good, hard clean hits. Furthermore, the existence of a bounty doesn't mean that players are committing an illegal play to injure someone. And if for some reason an extra $5,000 was worth the $50,000 fine that would incur, where the fuck was the league?? One of the players that did get fined in the Vikes game was literally someone bumping Farve after the idiot tried to get in the way following a dump. There's a compilation on youtube of the hits and 95% look clean How is this relevant to the ruling by Goodell? You do realize the Saints already admitted to the whole thing. The specific instances simply don't matter once the cat is out of the bag. This is like saying "LISTEN I CHEATED ON YOU WITH A BUNCH OF GIRLS, BUT THE TIME YOU SAW ME WITH KATE WE JUST RAN INTO EACH OTHER AT THE GROCERY STORE. I CHEATED ON YOU BUT NOT WITH THAT BITCH" The people being punished lied to the most powerful guy in the room on a topic the league is very sensitive towards. That alone will land you a brutal ass fucking. I feel Goodell had to 1. Get all the player safety addicts off of NFL's nuts 2. Set a precedent and make sure no one dares to run this scheme again. This harsh ruling accomplishes both. Job well done in my opinion. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On March 22 2012 04:16 GARO wrote: Yeah, I don't think Goodell is going to get a nice reception in New Orleans during Super Bowl week next year. Rams need a new d coordinator now too? LOL at Tebow coming here. What are they going to do, have Sparano use him in more Wildcat? The Defensive coordinator at the time, went to St Louis. So I think they have already replaced that factor. Green-Ellis is now a Bengal, while Benson still hangs out in FA. Colts have signed a new C making it appear even more that Saturday will likely be reunited with Manning with the Broncos. While the Broncos look to fill Plan B with a meeting with ex Chicago backup QB Caleb Hanie. Must fill the news with something other than Tebow, because seeing him as a Jet would make me sad. | ||
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GARO
United States2255 Posts
On March 22 2012 08:12 Irave wrote: The Defensive coordinator at the time, went to St Louis. So I think they have already replaced that factor. No, I was talking about Greg Williams. But it seems as Fisher isn't going to replace him anyway. | ||
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Gonff
United States686 Posts
"Sure would be a shame if Goodell fell off a ladder for $200,000" - Sean Payton | ||
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wongfeihung
United States763 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10342 Posts
Suuuuuuuuuuuuure they do. Way too severe, and just so flimsy. It wasn't long ago that ESPN had an entire segment devoted to players getting licked rather severely. Remember, "JACKED UP?" Oops, it's not tackle football anymore folks. | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
The rest of the stuff Goddell makes sense to me and will have an impact on the team but the GM suspended? I do not comprehend | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
On March 22 2012 14:18 Orcasgt24 wrote: Can someone that gets NFL football a bit better then I do please explain to me how an 8 games suspention to a GM is substantial in any meaningful kind of way? The rest of the stuff Goddell makes sense to me and will have an impact on the team but the GM suspended? I do not comprehend trading players? dealing with contract issues? i dont know really. I think the punishment was harsh but needed to be done. Don't really want that shit in the game. | ||
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thuracine
United States582 Posts
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On March 22 2012 15:09 thuracine wrote: What is going to happen to payton when the saints go 12-4 this season? He'll say we woulda gone 15-1 with me | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On March 22 2012 14:18 Orcasgt24 wrote: Can someone that gets NFL football a bit better then I do please explain to me how an 8 games suspention to a GM is substantial in any meaningful kind of way? The rest of the stuff Goddell makes sense to me and will have an impact on the team but the GM suspended? I do not comprehend Suspended without pay is the big part I think. | ||
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Mtndrew
United States174 Posts
Also it requires them to find someone to fill the duties of moving players around and in 8 games there's bound to be some injuries or other unforseeable events that a gm usually takes care of. They can also act as an advisor to the coach, which would be handy since the saints have to use a different one this year. Some coaches try to fill both roles and GM while they coach, but it usually doesn't work as well as them focusing on coaching (see: Tom Coughlin with Jacksonville vs Tom Coughlin with the Giants) | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
That said, it's all about Payton and Loomis lied to Goodell. It's like a kid who steals a cookie, and instead of taking the wrist slap punishment after getting caught, he instead lies about it and it ends up even worse. What the Saints do is common throughout the entire NFL and is an endemic problem with mentality and coaching leaguewide, Saints were just more obvious and dumb about it. Oh well. 3 years of relevance. It was nice, back to Browns territory. | ||
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