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Clank
Profile Joined April 2011
United States548 Posts
March 20 2012 01:27 GMT
#241
Tolbert to the Panthers is an interesting move. Deangelo, stewart, tolbert, and newton make up one scary running threat, definitely the best backfield in the NFL. Not sure what it means for the future of stewart/deangelo, but hopefully those 3 can stay together.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
March 20 2012 01:31 GMT
#242
On March 20 2012 10:27 Clank wrote:
Tolbert to the Panthers is an interesting move. Deangelo, stewart, tolbert, and newton make up one scary running threat, definitely the best backfield in the NFL. Not sure what it means for the future of stewart/deangelo, but hopefully those 3 can stay together.


It means either Stewart or Deangelo is being traded. There is zero chance all 3 stay there.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
March 20 2012 01:38 GMT
#243
Tebow to be traded to Miami. You heard it here first.
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
March 20 2012 02:10 GMT
#244
On March 20 2012 10:38 GTR wrote:
Tebow to be traded to Miami. You heard it here first.

They would appreciate the ticket sales but I think that's about it. With the pickup of Garrad for one year, I think they will just try and snag a first round QB and lick the wounds in that position that way. Its looking dark for Tebowmania, I'm more willing to believe he sits the year and tries to come back next as a FB.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32080 Posts
March 20 2012 18:55 GMT
#245
Tebow to Jax makes a whole lot more sense if he does get moved. That owner is dumb enough to pay a premium just to fill seats, and Florida has dumb enough fans to do it.

Also, what bloodninja said: there is zero chance all three of those dudes stick around. Wayyyy too much money in the backfield. Certainly interesting to try and sign Tolbert and then flip one of the other two... there isn't much a market for mid aged, but talented backs on big contracts. Denver, with Peyton at the helm, certainly would benefit from D-Will, but they're much more in the market for a WR
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Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 20:24:12
March 20 2012 20:23 GMT
#246
On March 21 2012 03:55 Hawk wrote:
Tebow to Jax makes a whole lot more sense if he does get moved. That owner is dumb enough to pay a premium just to fill seats, and Florida has dumb enough fans to do it.

Also, what bloodninja said: there is zero chance all three of those dudes stick around. Wayyyy too much money in the backfield. Certainly interesting to try and sign Tolbert and then flip one of the other two... there isn't much a market for mid aged, but talented backs on big contracts. Denver, with Peyton at the helm, certainly would benefit from D-Will, but they're much more in the market for a WR

If this were true wouldn't he have drafted the guy?

Edit: I do agree that one of the Florida teams is the most likely/fitting place for Tebow to land though.
It's easier not to.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
March 20 2012 20:40 GMT
#247
On March 21 2012 05:23 Pangolin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 03:55 Hawk wrote:
Tebow to Jax makes a whole lot more sense if he does get moved. That owner is dumb enough to pay a premium just to fill seats, and Florida has dumb enough fans to do it.

Also, what bloodninja said: there is zero chance all three of those dudes stick around. Wayyyy too much money in the backfield. Certainly interesting to try and sign Tolbert and then flip one of the other two... there isn't much a market for mid aged, but talented backs on big contracts. Denver, with Peyton at the helm, certainly would benefit from D-Will, but they're much more in the market for a WR

If this were true wouldn't he have drafted the guy?

Edit: I do agree that one of the Florida teams is the most likely/fitting place for Tebow to land though.

Other than the hometown affect, neither of the Florida teams would be a good fit for Tebow. They need much more to rebuild than him, that train wreck wouldn't sell many tickets after a few games. A team that would be a great fit for him, to actually be able to start would be the Eagles. A polar opposite of Michael Vick but with similar QB styles.

As of recently, Miami is no longer showing interest in Tebow, or perhaps hiding it. So I think they are out of the Tebow picture.
Green Bay is kicking the thought around of adding him to the team. They won't need him to start anytime soon and need to find a replacement for Matt Flynn. This would be a premiere spot for Tebow, since GB has quite the reputation of building QBs. They wouldn't want to offer anything more than a late round draft pick for Tebow. Which is probably all Denver will be able to get but would be easy to beat by another team interested in Tebow.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32080 Posts
March 20 2012 20:44 GMT
#248
On March 21 2012 05:23 Pangolin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 03:55 Hawk wrote:
Tebow to Jax makes a whole lot more sense if he does get moved. That owner is dumb enough to pay a premium just to fill seats, and Florida has dumb enough fans to do it.

Also, what bloodninja said: there is zero chance all three of those dudes stick around. Wayyyy too much money in the backfield. Certainly interesting to try and sign Tolbert and then flip one of the other two... there isn't much a market for mid aged, but talented backs on big contracts. Denver, with Peyton at the helm, certainly would benefit from D-Will, but they're much more in the market for a WR

If this were true wouldn't he have drafted the guy?

Edit: I do agree that one of the Florida teams is the most likely/fitting place for Tebow to land though.


The new owner came on board this year. It wasn't official til Jan. 4 I believe. But he has gushed about Tebow
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Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
March 20 2012 21:59 GMT
#249
On March 21 2012 05:44 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 05:23 Pangolin wrote:
On March 21 2012 03:55 Hawk wrote:
Tebow to Jax makes a whole lot more sense if he does get moved. That owner is dumb enough to pay a premium just to fill seats, and Florida has dumb enough fans to do it.

Also, what bloodninja said: there is zero chance all three of those dudes stick around. Wayyyy too much money in the backfield. Certainly interesting to try and sign Tolbert and then flip one of the other two... there isn't much a market for mid aged, but talented backs on big contracts. Denver, with Peyton at the helm, certainly would benefit from D-Will, but they're much more in the market for a WR

If this were true wouldn't he have drafted the guy?

Edit: I do agree that one of the Florida teams is the most likely/fitting place for Tebow to land though.


The new owner came on board this year. It wasn't official til Jan. 4 I believe. But he has gushed about Tebow

Oh I see, didn't know that.
It's easier not to.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
March 20 2012 22:05 GMT
#250
On March 21 2012 06:59 Pangolin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 05:44 Hawk wrote:
On March 21 2012 05:23 Pangolin wrote:
On March 21 2012 03:55 Hawk wrote:
Tebow to Jax makes a whole lot more sense if he does get moved. That owner is dumb enough to pay a premium just to fill seats, and Florida has dumb enough fans to do it.

Also, what bloodninja said: there is zero chance all three of those dudes stick around. Wayyyy too much money in the backfield. Certainly interesting to try and sign Tolbert and then flip one of the other two... there isn't much a market for mid aged, but talented backs on big contracts. Denver, with Peyton at the helm, certainly would benefit from D-Will, but they're much more in the market for a WR

If this were true wouldn't he have drafted the guy?

Edit: I do agree that one of the Florida teams is the most likely/fitting place for Tebow to land though.


The new owner came on board this year. It wasn't official til Jan. 4 I believe. But he has gushed about Tebow

Oh I see, didn't know that.


He also said that if was in charge he would have drafted Tebow himself in the 1st round.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
March 20 2012 22:48 GMT
#251
On March 21 2012 07:05 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 06:59 Pangolin wrote:
On March 21 2012 05:44 Hawk wrote:
On March 21 2012 05:23 Pangolin wrote:
On March 21 2012 03:55 Hawk wrote:
Tebow to Jax makes a whole lot more sense if he does get moved. That owner is dumb enough to pay a premium just to fill seats, and Florida has dumb enough fans to do it.

Also, what bloodninja said: there is zero chance all three of those dudes stick around. Wayyyy too much money in the backfield. Certainly interesting to try and sign Tolbert and then flip one of the other two... there isn't much a market for mid aged, but talented backs on big contracts. Denver, with Peyton at the helm, certainly would benefit from D-Will, but they're much more in the market for a WR

If this were true wouldn't he have drafted the guy?

Edit: I do agree that one of the Florida teams is the most likely/fitting place for Tebow to land though.


The new owner came on board this year. It wasn't official til Jan. 4 I believe. But he has gushed about Tebow

Oh I see, didn't know that.


He also said that if was in charge he would have drafted Tebow himself in the 1st round.

While he may have drafted him, would he be willing to start him for the 2012 season? If Tebow arrived in Jacksonville Tebowmania would get off the plane with him. It would be a Denver repeat, with serious questions of the results. Fans cheering for Tebow as Gabbert struggles. Then with the addition of Henne, I think its a very small chance that Tebow will return to Florida this year.
Clank
Profile Joined April 2011
United States548 Posts
March 21 2012 00:11 GMT
#252
On March 20 2012 10:31 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 10:27 Clank wrote:
Tolbert to the Panthers is an interesting move. Deangelo, stewart, tolbert, and newton make up one scary running threat, definitely the best backfield in the NFL. Not sure what it means for the future of stewart/deangelo, but hopefully those 3 can stay together.


It means either Stewart or Deangelo is being traded. There is zero chance all 3 stay there.


Im not too sure about that. Tolbert is being paid as a fullback, so its not like keeping all 3 would be too hard to do with the salary cap. The GM said they weren't planning on trading either, so I hope thats what happens
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 00:47:06
March 21 2012 00:34 GMT
#253
Not that it should shock anyone but Alex Smith finally came to terms with the 49ers. 3 year contract with an estimated worth of 24M.
On March 21 2012 09:11 Clank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 10:31 BloodNinja wrote:
On March 20 2012 10:27 Clank wrote:
Tolbert to the Panthers is an interesting move. Deangelo, stewart, tolbert, and newton make up one scary running threat, definitely the best backfield in the NFL. Not sure what it means for the future of stewart/deangelo, but hopefully those 3 can stay together.


It means either Stewart or Deangelo is being traded. There is zero chance all 3 stay there.


Im not too sure about that. Tolbert is being paid as a fullback, so its not like keeping all 3 would be too hard to do with the salary cap. The GM said they weren't planning on trading either, so I hope thats what happens

It just seems silly to have three talented backs on one team. Mainly from a fan perspective of it being a fantasy nightmare. However it never seems to work out for them. Stewart has one year remaining on his contract, they should at least hang him out there to see if there is any interest.

The RB market so far in the off season has been a snore fest. Well everything got overshadowed by Manning. There still remains to be a few named backs threatening to be wasted on the FA list. Benson, Bush, Green-Ellis, and Jacobs, and many more. Perhaps the demand for new backs just isn't there and that's why he doesn't want to consider trading. The Chargers had a meeting today with Jackie Battle to fill the slot of Tolbert, which could be good.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32080 Posts
March 21 2012 01:05 GMT
#254
Bush is a legit good runner who probably could have been a starter a few years back. He's a nice back up who can chew carries though. I think Benson is on his last legs. Law firm is a platoon dude and Jacobs really isn't worth anything other than short yardage money these days
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
March 21 2012 01:09 GMT
#255
DeMeco Ryans traded to the Eagles for a fourth-rounder and a swap of the third rounders.

Thoughts?
Commentator
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
March 21 2012 01:19 GMT
#256
really stupid for the texans imo
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
March 21 2012 01:21 GMT
#257
Holy shit. The Eagles finally did what they should have done years ago and got a LB? I thought they were too busy going out picking up ex convicts to actually fix a position that needed fixing.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
March 21 2012 01:24 GMT
#258
On March 21 2012 10:09 GTR wrote:
DeMeco Ryans traded to the Eagles for a fourth-rounder and a swap of the third rounders.

Thoughts?

Filling that slot makes them a Dream Team.

Its a good pickup and if it really lasts to be a 4th round pick, its an amazing deal. Some concern with how Ryans will recover from his injury. It may not be recent, but last season when he returned he seemed out of place and not his old self. Though if he is only able to recover to 80% of what he was, I think he would still be the Eagles best LB. I have no worries for the Eagles making this move, but I question what Houston is planning.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 01:28:19
March 21 2012 01:27 GMT
#259
Analysts say he didn't really fit the 3-4 system, but he rocks up in a 4-3.
Personally, I feel only a fourth and a third round swap is a bit much for a Pro Bowl calibre LB. Maybe a second or something?
Commentator
Mtndrew
Profile Joined May 2011
United States174 Posts
March 21 2012 01:37 GMT
#260
On March 21 2012 07:48 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 07:05 BloodNinja wrote:
On March 21 2012 06:59 Pangolin wrote:
On March 21 2012 05:44 Hawk wrote:
On March 21 2012 05:23 Pangolin wrote:
On March 21 2012 03:55 Hawk wrote:
Tebow to Jax makes a whole lot more sense if he does get moved. That owner is dumb enough to pay a premium just to fill seats, and Florida has dumb enough fans to do it.

Also, what bloodninja said: there is zero chance all three of those dudes stick around. Wayyyy too much money in the backfield. Certainly interesting to try and sign Tolbert and then flip one of the other two... there isn't much a market for mid aged, but talented backs on big contracts. Denver, with Peyton at the helm, certainly would benefit from D-Will, but they're much more in the market for a WR

If this were true wouldn't he have drafted the guy?

Edit: I do agree that one of the Florida teams is the most likely/fitting place for Tebow to land though.


The new owner came on board this year. It wasn't official til Jan. 4 I believe. But he has gushed about Tebow

Oh I see, didn't know that.


He also said that if was in charge he would have drafted Tebow himself in the 1st round.

While he may have drafted him, would he be willing to start him for the 2012 season? If Tebow arrived in Jacksonville Tebowmania would get off the plane with him. It would be a Denver repeat, with serious questions of the results. Fans cheering for Tebow as Gabbert struggles. Then with the addition of Henne, I think its a very small chance that Tebow will return to Florida this year.


Exactly. The only people that think Tebow is coming to Jacksonville either don't follow the team, or hinge on every word ESPN spews out. The owner made a passing comment in like the first couple weeks that if he were the owner then, that he might have asked the gm to take a stronger look at Tebow given the circumstances, but he knows that the GM Gene Smith knows what he's doing. Blaine Gabbert didn't know he was going to be the starter till week 3 or 4 of the season, and there was a lockout before that. We've got couple solid options at QB, (I think Gabbert will retain the starting job in camp), the #1 rusher in the league, top 10 overall defense last year before we had like 15 people on IR, and one of the best kickers in the league. Hopefully we'll be able to trade back in the draft, aquire some more picks and get a few solid recievers.

TL;DR: in any news related to the Jaguars, don't trust anything ESPN says because they don't really pay attention to the franchise and over speculate ALL. THE. TIME.
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