EPTNBA Regular Season 2011-2012 - Page 120
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
its great to see him scoring alot of pts but i'd want to see him against more defensively minded teams  | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:11 MassHysteria wrote: superior alternatives? cmon now lol. Goudelock is a rookie who does terrible when pressured on defense and is forced to decide on where to go with the ball. McRoberts is a hustle guy and that's it. He might be a fan favorite but don't think like a fanboy man. Murphy has been a double-double guy in his career when healthy and has been getting boards in limited minutes (9 last night) and can stretch the floor. Plus, Murphy is the type of player who can get hot and knock down some shots whereas McRoberts is not that type of player. I don't mean to nitpick but you are reminding me of all the other overreacting LA fans here. Blaming it on Mike Brown, when the Lakers rank 29th or 30th (dead-last) in the NBA in PG production, SF production, and points off the bench. Nothing Brown can really do about that by himself. When it was Phil Jackson doing all these weird rotations during the regular season, everyone just said " the zen-master is just getting them ready for the playoffs" and yet he had more options than now. The lakers playing 3 vs 5 on offense definitely has validity though. It just shows how weak everyone other than those 3 are right now. Rank dead last in SF and PG production when he isn't playing the guys that DO produce at those two positions. He isn't playing Barnes enough, and is playing Murphy WAY too much. When McRoberts, Goudelock and Barnes are in they produce. If nothing else they bring much needed ENERGY to the game, something the other guys he's been playing severely lack. I don't give a damn what Troy Murphy's career numbers have looked like. He's averaging a little more than 3 points a game with the Lakers and his rebounding ability is equal to McRoberts at best. You claim I'm thinking like a fanboy, while meanwhile you're using logic that only works if you're looking at career numbers and completely ignore what's already transpired this season. By your logic we should keep playing Kapono because obviously his shooting drought is bound to end at some point right? | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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domovoi
United States1478 Posts
On February 11 2012 05:32 zoLo wrote: Local bars in the Bay Area are hyping the Knicks and Lakers game tonight. It may not be a big deal for some, but Lin's recent performance got a lot of people excited, especially those from Palo Alto. I hope they do win tonight and see MSG explode O_O I am seriously so hyped about today's game. Then again, I grew up a Sonics fan, so I guess the Knicks are my bandwagon team for the moment. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:11 MassHysteria wrote: superior alternatives? cmon now lol. Goudelock is a rookie who does terrible when pressured on defense and is forced to decide on where to go with the ball. McRoberts is a hustle guy and that's it. He might be a fan favorite but don't think like a fanboy man. Murphy has been a double-double guy in his career when healthy and has been getting boards in limited minutes (9 last night) and can stretch the floor. Plus, Murphy is the type of player who can get hot and knock down some shots whereas McRoberts is not that type of player. I don't mean to nitpick but you are reminding me of all the other overreacting LA fans here. Blaming it on Mike Brown, when the Lakers rank 29th or 30th (dead-last) in the NBA in PG production, SF production, and points off the bench. Nothing Brown can really do about that by himself. When it was Phil Jackson doing all these weird rotations during the regular season, everyone just said " the zen-master is just getting them ready for the playoffs" and yet he had more options than now. The lakers playing 3 vs 5 on offense definitely has validity though. It just shows how weak everyone other than those 3 are right now. Ok, as a Pacer fan, I think I can offer more insight on this whole Murphy vs McRoberts debate. Troy Murphy is horrendous. All he is good for is 3 point shooting. His rebounding numbers are very deceiving. He steals rebounds from teammates all the time. His defense is atrocious. He is a tall three point shooter, thats all. He doesn't have a post game and can't defend in the post. McRoberts is definitely the better option. When it comes to scoring, he's not really going to fill that role, which is why Hansbrough took over his starting role in Indy. But what McRoberts is really good at is ball movement. When he is in the game, ball movement is just better. He is a very talented and willing passer. His defense isn't good, but I would say its better than Murphy's and he can at least block some shots down there. Sure Murphy may have been a double double guy, but look at how bad those teams were in GSW. And in Indy, Jim O'Brien's offense was tailored to Murphy's game. And those teams were bad too. There is a reason Murphy didn't play in Boston, he's just not good. At least McRoberts will bring energy and ball movement to the Lakers, somewhat filling the void Odom has left. Still one of the dumbest trades I've ever seen. EDIT: also about Mike Brown, yeah he has used weird rotations for his entire career. He isn't a offensive coach really. Kobe scoring so much this season is by design, is like the offense in Cleveland was, except Kobe is more of a scorer than a play maker like LeBron so Kobe is just scoring a ton. He has the Lakers playing some damn good defense though. LA misses Odom so badly. It really made their PG problem even worse. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
I've never seen it. | ||
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VENDIZ
1575 Posts
On February 11 2012 09:33 cLutZ wrote: Who actually invented the notion that Brown is a good coach? I've never seen it. "Experts" watching LeBron carry the Cavs to NBA Finals ;D | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13536 Posts
The guy looks completely lost on a basketball court. He just aimlessly runs around the court setting the occasional pick. Or is he suffering from the Wizards' system in general? | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
On February 11 2012 09:33 cLutZ wrote: Who actually invented the notion that Brown is a good coach? I've never seen it. You'd be surprised how many people I've talked to that defend him because of how well the Cavaliers did with Lebron James. I still don't understand what he said that made the Lakers management so eager to hire him right away. Must be quite the salesman. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On February 11 2012 09:33 cLutZ wrote: Who actually invented the notion that Brown is a good coach? I've never seen it. I actually do think he is a good coach. Its a little too soon to bash him in LA. He didn't even have a real training camp with the Lakers. And he has that team playing defense, really good defense. He is still learning that roster and they are still trying to learn how to play without Lamar. Seriously, that trade was so dumb. Lamar would have gotten over it. He was the best creator on the team and now they don't have a good one really, well McRoberts is actually good at it, but not good enough for a ton of minutes. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
On February 11 2012 09:45 Ace wrote: Mike Brown is a very good coach. Very good. Oh Ace you're so silly. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Every team he has ever coached has been a defensive menace, even when the roster has been filled with marginal talent. Offensively there is some stuff to be desired but he isn't bad at all. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13536 Posts
He's got the toughest gig in basketball: the guy who's had to replace Phil Jackson at the Lakers. | ||
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VENDIZ
1575 Posts
Wow, MSG is blowing up! | ||
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Timurid
Guyana (French)656 Posts
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cHaNg-sTa
United States1058 Posts
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VENDIZ
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