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On November 10 2011 23:27 Candadar wrote:
I'm all for keeping it easy so we don't die in five years since we will have plenty of new players, but Low Aggression is just stupid. It's like playing BGH no aggression 20 minutes. It's stupid. Put it on Easy and then High Aggression.
Imho difficulty, more than on anyhting else, depends extremly on the country picked:
(very) small country = "normal" difficulty or truly good first player(s).
Big badass country = "Hard+"... I mean, who cares? Even if someone loses a few provinces, what would happen? The guy after would most likely have more fun trying to "fix" the country (or make it worse)? :D.
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opm very hard high aggression
are u guys pussies
also sign me up, ideally put me in front of turdburgher
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I find low aggression much more enjoyable. Not because the AI does not attack one, but because the AI is actually capable of building empires. At any higher aggression the AI basically never gets more dangerous, since they expand so fast that they never build any lasting empires because they break down because of rebels + infamy. However, on low aggression the average size of AI countries is constantly increasing, which is a good thing since a player-managed country does the same.
Usually, Low aggression is harder than high aggression because you can't just attack anyone after they have exhausted themselves in one useless war after another and are at -3 stab and 15 WE, with 0 manpower left.
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On November 11 2011 01:06 Caller wrote:
opm very hard high aggression
are u guys pussies
also sign me up, ideally put me in front of turdburgher
im not sure how to take this D: but i get the feeling im gonna be playing an opm with maxed war exhaustion no man power, maxed infamy and 5 loans taken out.
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At the moment you are ahead of Caller in the line. Of course, if you want to, you can give your place up to the next in line, but that is up to the one who has the place, and not the one who wants it. Also, at the moment you are at position number 8, so even if some people don't show up you will probably not see any situation similar to the 1399 start.
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On November 11 2011 03:20 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2011 01:06 Caller wrote:
opm very hard high aggression
are u guys pussies
also sign me up, ideally put me in front of turdburgher im not sure how to take this D: but i get the feeling im gonna be playing an opm with maxed war exhaustion no man power, maxed infamy and 5 loans taken out.
If it makes you happy i can arrange that for you in Callers name  (assuming the list in the op is chronologic :p).
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On November 11 2011 03:20 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2011 01:06 Caller wrote:
opm very hard high aggression
are u guys pussies
also sign me up, ideally put me in front of turdburgher im not sure how to take this D: but i get the feeling im gonna be playing an opm with maxed war exhaustion no man power, maxed infamy and 5 loans taken out.
you forgot maxed decentralization, at war with Spain/France/Austria/Great Britain/Ottomans/Sweden, also you're a theocracy. I would try to get to a tribal federation but that might be tricky.
oh and for shiggles inflation will be at 20 + whatever I started with. and i will be putting all points into production tech.
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Hey sign me in I want to play :D!
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On November 11 2011 08:03 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2011 03:20 turdburgler wrote:On November 11 2011 01:06 Caller wrote:
opm very hard high aggression
are u guys pussies
also sign me up, ideally put me in front of turdburgher im not sure how to take this D: but i get the feeling im gonna be playing an opm with maxed war exhaustion no man power, maxed infamy and 5 loans taken out. you forgot maxed decentralization, at war with Spain/France/Austria/Great Britain/Ottomans/Sweden, also you're a theocracy. I would try to get to a tribal federation but that might be tricky. oh and for shiggles inflation will be at 20 + whatever I started with. and i will be putting all points into production tech.
if you minted 100% of the money how are you going into production?!  unless you are minting it then buying the tech for double price just to be an ass 
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On November 10 2011 23:27 Candadar wrote:
I'm all for keeping it easy so we don't die in five years since we will have plenty of new players, but Low Aggression is just stupid. It's like playing BGH no aggression 20 minutes. It's stupid. Put it on Easy and then High Aggression.
Actually the point of low aggression is to prevent the AI from overextending itself, which it does quite occasionally. Low aggression means that the large countries will probably survive for a long time, rather than die from engaging in too many wars it cant win.
At least that's what I recall the reason to be from reading EU3 forums a couple months ago.
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On November 11 2011 06:56 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2011 03:20 turdburgler wrote:On November 11 2011 01:06 Caller wrote:
opm very hard high aggression
are u guys pussies
also sign me up, ideally put me in front of turdburgher im not sure how to take this D: but i get the feeling im gonna be playing an opm with maxed war exhaustion no man power, maxed infamy and 5 loans taken out. If it makes you happy i can arrange that for you in Callers name (assuming the list in the op is chronologic :p).
It is.
On November 11 2011 14:13 KtheZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2011 23:27 Candadar wrote:
I'm all for keeping it easy so we don't die in five years since we will have plenty of new players, but Low Aggression is just stupid. It's like playing BGH no aggression 20 minutes. It's stupid. Put it on Easy and then High Aggression. Actually the point of low aggression is to prevent the AI from overextending itself, which it does quite occasionally. Low aggression means that the large countries will probably survive for a long time, rather than die from engaging in too many wars it cant win. At least that's what I recall the reason to be from reading EU3 forums a couple months ago.
Exactly. With high aggression, you can make the first few years more dangerous (Basically its only rolling a dice"Do i get attacked by a large blob and annexed, or not?"), but low aggression leads to larger stable AI empires, and it prevents you from having an easy time taking whoever you want out because they wasted themselves in useless wars.
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Anything else than the restoration of the Roman Empire aka Byzantium to its rightful borders is a waste of time ... if you do this, i'm in ^^
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On November 11 2011 23:10 spelhus wrote:Anything else than the restoration of the Roman Empire aka Byzantium to its rightful borders is a waste of time ... if you do this, i'm in ^^
Taken from Paradox forums
1 - Start as Byzantium (True heir to the Roman Empire - check)
2 - Go Catholic
3 - Become the Emperor (Legacy of Charlemagne, and the Western Empire - check)
4 - Renovatio Imperii (HRE option greyed out, as it's 'mission' is complete)
5 - Change government type from empire to Enlightened despotism (- 2 stab)
6 - Change government type to absolute monarchy (- 4 stab)
7 - Change government to despotic monarchy (- 4 stab)
8 - Change government type to theocracy (- 4 stab)
9 - Cause the downfall of the Papacy, and become the Pope ('Holy' - half a check)
10 - Move the capital to Rome, conquering it, if necessary (Roman - check)
11 - Form the KoG! ('Holy' - check is absolute; Papacy - greyed out, as it does not need to be controlled any more )
This path would be even more epic then the last one! You are twice-fold holy, as the papacy and Kingdom of God, totally Roman, as Byzantine and having the capital in the Eternal City and a double Emperor - uniting the generally hereditary Eastern Empire and the generally elective Western one.
So you can harness the power of both political entities and become the HRE squared!!!
On a side note, i think
Normal or Hard is fine. Very hard is doable, it's just you have to be very ''gimmicky and tricky''. I also find that if you are not going to colonize, you should put spread of sea province/land province to 25 years.
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Voting is done
Apparently, we are playing a small-sized country in Europe, but outside of the HRE. Every player is playing for 20 years. The other two polls were very close, so i will try to find a compromise, and we will play on Hard Difficulty with Normal Aggression. I will take a look at what country satisfies these demands.
Edit: I took a look at the possible candidades: In my opinon, we have Brittany, Byzantium, The Papal State, Sicily, Granada or one of the small Eastern European Countries.
Granada is Hell, and the main difficulty is somehow surviving the first year.
The Eastern Europeans will have to pay tribute to the Golden Horde, and basically not be able to do a lot of things for a long period of time.
Brittany is a scary place. We would probably be trading and hiding from France for a long period of time, until we either relocate to the new world, or France collapses and we can grab pieces of her.
Byzantium is basically forced to evolve in a certain way with all those cores, and will soon either be very strong or dead, whch i don't find that fun in a succession game.
The Papal state is in an interesting situation in middle Italy, and could make for an interesting game forming the same, or bringing about a Theocracy in the mediterranean Area.
However, my personal favorite is Sicily. It is in a very flecible place where it can choose to go for a lot of different things and should make for an interesting game for a longer period of time. Also, we get a queen.
Thus, since i don't want to waste any more time with more polling and finally get this thing rolling, we will be playing as the Kingdom of Sicily.
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whats the definition of small, portugal is small but pretty powerful. sweden is "big" but is weak. aragon is ok but has spain and france both wanting a bite D:
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On November 12 2011 14:38 turdburgler wrote:
whats the definition of small, portugal is small but pretty powerful. sweden is "big" but is weak. aragon is ok but has spain and france both wanting a bite D:
All of those would probably go into the category "medium" in my opinion.
Ok, i am done with the first 20 years. Here is the safegame, the report is coming up as soon as i am done with it.
http://www.mediafire.com/?ujqwew6s4bsetes
Next in line is nttea, please confirm that you will be playing.
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It is the year of the Lord 1399. Maria I d'Aragó is by the grace of God queen of Sicily, and leads the country with wisdom and grace together with her Husband Martin the Younger, son of Martin I d'Aragó. Through the wisdom of the good queen, the Kingdom of Sicily consists of the provinces of Palermo, Messina and the Island of Malta. It is wisely ruled in the godgiven decentralised feudal way, while rightfully reducing the movement of both outside traders and the serfs on their turf. The Aristocracy is obviously aware of their superiority over the simple peasants.
On behalf of the graceful queen, 2000 Soldiers are ready to move onto the enemies of god, and the invincible royal navy consisting of 4 galleys and 3 cogs is ready to to rule the waves.
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On the 17th of October in the year of our Lord 1399, grave news arrived at the court of our beautiful and wise queen. On the exact same day, her father in law called upon her to help in a purely defensive war against the Navarrans, who foolishly chose to try to overthrow his godgiven right to rule the country, and her long-term ally and friend, the pope of rome, had to defend against the relentless urbino aggression. Wisely, they both decided that they need the help of our powerful kingdom under its pure and strong queen, and knowing that god is on her side, she decided to heed both calls.
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But these two conflicts were not the only thing awry in the land of our godblessed queen. The lawless merchants of Venice had illegally seized her property in Athens, and that is not something that she could accept. After all, how could she live with herself when her loyal subjects were slaving away under foreign rule. Thus, she decided that since our great nation is already fighting 2 wars at the same time, it could surely win another one at the same time. Her loyal subjects could no longer heed the foreign oppression! She called upon her father-in-law, and he obviously agreed with her intelligent view of the situation.
Meanwhile, the leader of the papal forces, a person of questionable heritage, made a grave mistake and led the papal forces into an obvious trap, where they got slaughtered to the last man. Thus, through no fault of her own, our queen and her ally, the pope, both were forced to swallow their pride and accept defeat, and let the lawless Urbinos continue in their rule.
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But at the same time, the other wars our queen smartly entered went far better. Her Father-in-law managed to subjugate the Navarran rebels, and the combined mighty naval forces of both realms were able to defeat the worthless venetian trading fleet time and time again. As our good queen had instantly realized, merchants are no match for warriors, and only through the foolish desire of the Milanese crown to support the Venetian Doge in his efforts at war made them able to prolong their struggle for another 5 years. The Milanese soon started begging for peace, but they did not want to make the necessary concessions, which obviously prolonged the war. Our good queen is just, but also strong at heart. In the middle of the war, a glimpse of light shined brightly in the eyes of each single sicilian. Our good queen had given birth to her first sun, Pietro.During this time, the superiority of our naval forces enabled the queen to take control of all the islands the Venetians owned. I won't even bother to reply to the ridiculous rumours that this total victory was only possible because the Milanese and Venetian armies had to fight a second war against the austrians. Unless their soldiers had learned to swim to our ships, even another 20000 man would never have defeated the wooden wall that is our navy.
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During the last months of this war, Louis II de Valois of Provence and Naples, who will in the future surely be remembered as "Louis the Foolish", decided to declare war upon the great Kingdom of Sicily over some obscure claim onto territory he somehow imagines he has. Of course our great queen would have nothing of that, the Napelese Navy was obliterated within 2 months of the beginning of this war. Of course, this meant that the Napalese aggression came to a grinding halt. In this situation, our wise queen smartly had her own historians investigate the outlandish claims the Fool made. And what a surprise that turned out: In fact, historically a lot of the now-Napalese territory was actually a part of Sicily. Thus, it was her whose territory was unjustly stolen.
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Sadly, after nearly a decade of war, Sicily was in no state to wage war into the napelese mainland territory. Thus, after some struggle with herself, our wise queen decided to agree to a 5-year ceasefire with the fool. This would be used to strengthen her position, warm up the war machine, reconsolidate the the province of crete which was regained in the war against venice, convert this heretic province to the true papal faith, and generally set her up to reclaim the territory stolen by the fool. But he was in no situation do decline this ceasefire. Noting the importance of her fleet in the past wars, our queen decided to standardize the production of ships, and utilize press gangs to reduce the costs thereof.
And as was to be expected, on the fifth annual of the ceasefire, our good queen redeclared war upon the Fool-king of Naples. And with one swift strike, she tool back the stolen territory with the aid of her father-in-law.
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For the rest of this chronicles, basically nothing interesting happened in the realm of Sicily. A small Greek revolt was instantly surpressed, and the cretens finally accepted the one true faith. Our wise queen ruled justly, and the realm florished. One last thing worth mentioning is the wise policy of our great queen to marry of royal cousins into far-away countries to improve our relations, which she continued to follow through the age that this chronicles depict.
Edit: On an unrelated note, i suck at making interesting screenshots.
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Please add a screen of final possesions of our country, preferably political view.
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As requested:
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The small island of Naxos is a vassal to the crown of Sicily. I originally planned on walking the first steps on the way towards a mediterranean Island empire, but than Naples threw a core at me.
Edit: Apparently, the forum cuts of half of the picture, but if you can click on it you can see our eastern possesions in Crete and Naxos. Also worth mentioning is that we own a fleet of 3 Carracks and some galleys, which is next to our allies in Aragon the single strongest fleet in the mediterranean area. Of course, countries like the English, Castille, or any of the other stronger northern naval powers could still wipe the floor with us, which is something that needs to be addressed in due time.
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Oh by the way, how do you exchange saved games?
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