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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10910 Posts
November 15 2011 21:30 GMT
#81
And we could allways move the capital once the money rolls .
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 02:09:54
November 15 2011 22:50 GMT
#82
On November 16 2011 05:11 Simberto wrote:
No, that was never established. There is some amount of range, but it is very low. Definitively less than 250, from my tests it is about 2-3 provinces far, so maybe a range of 50 at most. In our case for example all of the holy land is already distant overseas. I would not even be surprised if nothing in africa is in range. Maybe something like Tunis or Tripolitania is in range, but nothing further away.

However, if we manage to control all of the mediterranean shore at one point, that is no longer a problem, since in that case we have a land connection to north africa.

isn't the "distant overseas" thing connected to your colonization range? meaning as soon as we get our naval tech up we should be alright.
edit: to post below me: thanks! it means alot to at least to me because i am doing this not only because i think it's great fun (which i do) but also to give entertainment to people who like following succession games (which i do too!)
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 16 2011 02:01 GMT
#83
Just wanted to say, keep up the good work guys. I remember reading all those Civ 4 succession games in the past and had a damn swell time doing it. Perhaps I'll take part in the next one, but glad to see these things back

Just feeling sentimental right now and shit.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11912 Posts
November 16 2011 07:19 GMT
#84
On November 16 2011 07:50 nttea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 05:11 Simberto wrote:
No, that was never established. There is some amount of range, but it is very low. Definitively less than 250, from my tests it is about 2-3 provinces far, so maybe a range of 50 at most. In our case for example all of the holy land is already distant overseas. I would not even be surprised if nothing in africa is in range. Maybe something like Tunis or Tripolitania is in range, but nothing further away.

However, if we manage to control all of the mediterranean shore at one point, that is no longer a problem, since in that case we have a land connection to north africa.

isn't the "distant overseas" thing connected to your colonization range? meaning as soon as we get our naval tech up we should be alright.
edit: to post below me: thanks! it means alot to at least to me because i am doing this not only because i think it's great fun (which i do) but also to give entertainment to people who like following succession games (which i do too!)


Distant Overseas generally work like this:

If a province is neither on the same continent (check region mapmode)
Nor has a direct land connection to your capital (straits count as land connection, too)

It is distant overseas. There is a small area around your capital wherein even if it does not satisfy these two things, it is still not distant overseas. I don't know exactly how large that is, some people claim it is 250, but that is obviously wrong, as one can see in our current succession game, since when checking the colonisation mapmode, Judea is 75 distant, which significantly smaller than 250, and it is distant overseas. Since colonisation works from the nearest cored port, that is either Messina or Calabria, and unless you want to argue that the distance from either of those to Palermo is more than two times as large as the one to Judea, this data disproves the 250 range theory.

In another test i did, i had my capitol in Adana, with no land connection to anything, and the line behind which everything was distant overseas was Judea-Hawran-Badiyat az Sham-Mosul. In that game, i had a naval technology of 21, everything else being higher than 30.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11912 Posts
November 16 2011 15:37 GMT
#85
Psycho_Gemni, please hand over the country to the next in line today.
Capresis
Profile Joined September 2008
United States518 Posts
November 17 2011 13:04 GMT
#86
Soon after I was appointed chief advisor to the throne, our King Pietro IV passed away. Perhaps my ultra-conservative fiscal policies and Morocco's newly declared trade embargo on us did more damage to his health than I thought.

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King Martino I d'Arago and his one-year-old son, Luigi, are welcomed to the throne.

Yet how do I satisfy the court's demand for war? I sat in my office for many months, wondering what could be done. But before I came to a decision, I received this message:

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Their message was oddly a relief, as now I have an excuse to continue my passive behavior. Our army is small, and my nerves are much too frail for the likes of war anyway. Yet needing a pretense of productivity, I found something to devote my attention to: Annexing Naxos. After a royal marriage, many gifts, and many more rejected offers, Naxos was ours.

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Afterwards I spent four years handling the trivialities of our peaceful kingdom and pretending to read the diplomatic messages our empire receieved. But my king still wanted territorial expansion. I wasn't sure what to do. Everyone who we had causus belli against made me quake in fear. Yet there was one tiny country on the list, without the means to retaliate against us. "Well... I suppose that might work..." With one last swig of wine, I entered the throne room. "Flanders," I said hesitantly. "So be it," spoke Our Majesty.

The war with Flanders went perfectly at first. They were a pathetic country at war with almost the entirety of Europe. We met negligible resistance and managed to occupy a province. Yet I don't think I'll ever understand what happened next. Diplomats started arriving all at once stating war with our country!

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At war with the red plus Teutonic Order, Bohemia, and other small ones. It was a lot of red. A lot.

Despair overcame me. Their combined army outnumbers us twenty to one, their navy two to one! We can't fight them ourselves and our allies are worthless! What can we do! In the end, I did the only thing I could think of: I locked myself in my office with a crate of wine, and waited. Days passed and nothing happened. Then months. Our enemies sure were taking their time coming to us, clearly to give us plenty of time to reflect upon our poor decisions. Several equally lengthy months later, we received word: Austria, the spokesperson of the opposing countries, requests white peace! The war is over! I quickly signed on behalf of our country.

Military conquest was certainly not my calling in life. I took it easy for a few years, focusing solely on lowering inflation and trading. Yet after that narrow encounter, I decided being in a position of such importance was too much for me. I left office after a premature 11-year advisory.

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Inflation: ~5.5 --> 3.3
We entered 3 new markets that are probably costing us money overall.
Not much else happened. Sorry for the wait, have been slightly busy... Also I think I will just watch from now on. Still, was fun. Thanks for organizing this Simberto (=



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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10910 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 13:11:56
November 17 2011 13:11 GMT
#87
Austria.. It's allways bloody austria... :D
sakhi20
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark42 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 13:24:27
November 17 2011 13:21 GMT
#88
Sounds cool, ill join in
Liquid`TLO: "When things get weird, I'm in my element."
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 14:04:04
November 17 2011 13:30 GMT
#89
What a beautiful description of your reign, i love it.

Next in line is beef42, please claim your spot.

Edit: Also, wtf is going on with Hesse? Or, more generally speaking, the HRE looks interesting in general. giant Hesse, giant Bavaria, expanding Hansa, very strong TO, no Lithuania at all. The GH apparently ate a lot of stuff, too, but that is rather normal. The Timurids seem to have imploded for some reason. I just love to look at the world for random stuff. Beware of the mighty Yemens.

And a wonderful thing happened, the Venetians apparently managed to switch the culture in Athens to Lombard, so our core is there to stay.
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
November 17 2011 14:09 GMT
#90
Reporting in.

The king's new advisor asks the shadow council (that's you guys) for objectives.

Also do I just play 20 years, or do I get the remainder of Psycho_Gemini's term as well?
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 14:20:49
November 17 2011 14:19 GMT
#91
I think we should stick with 20 years or 3 days, whichever happens first, per person. It is not like there is any problem with ending at an arbitrary date instead of 1.1.1460 or something like that.
polluxtby
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden207 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 15:24:49
November 17 2011 15:24 GMT
#92
I gotta say that this thread is a very entertaining read. Keep up the good work guys
Ten years ago we had Johnny Cash, Bob Hope and Steve Job. Now we got no cash no job and no hope
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
November 17 2011 17:07 GMT
#93
Good job! We need more rulers like you !

Note that France is united already and burgundy is dead. France is going to be dominating this game. Expanding away from them seems like a really good idea. We should try to get a hold of the univs and production in northern Italy though ^_^

4649!!
Pewt
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada201 Posts
November 17 2011 17:20 GMT
#94
I'm game, I guess. Add me to the waiting list.
Bairemuth
Profile Joined June 2010
United States404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 21:26:07
November 17 2011 21:25 GMT
#95
Been enjoying keeping up with this. I'd like to see the eventual formation of Italy. Also, please destroy Austria because well...no one likes them (do they!?)
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 22:30:55
November 17 2011 22:30 GMT
#96
On November 18 2011 06:25 Bairemuth wrote:
Been enjoying keeping up with this. I'd like to see the eventual formation of Italy. Also, please destroy Austria because well...no one likes them (do they!?)

Well it's going to be a while unless we get to backstab them when theyre at war / just lost one. Austria got both decen manpower and good econ due to their 2 gold. Scary.
4649!!
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
November 18 2011 11:48 GMT
#97
Okay guys, since I have all the time in the world today, I've decided to make several posts as I play today. I've already played a tiny little bit and assessed our situation. Please feel free to make suggestion/give orders to the advisor of the King. Also I'd like to say I joined in this game because I'm fascinated by AARs and could maybe write one myself. So this is also a practical writing exercise for me and I hope you'll give constructive feedback.

--

In the year of our Lord 1452 Europe is in turmoil. The Austrian Emperor Franz I, while dealing with internal squabbles, attracted the attention of the recently reunified France. France had already demonstrated her expansionistic tendencies by annexing the Italian city of Ferrara in 1441. Ferrara was part of the Empire, and was but the latest of a string of French reconquests of Imperial provinces. Tensions ran high, and when the Emperor was occupied with internal affairs in the form of the trouble-making Swiss, France saw her opportunity to strike.

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Further south, removed from the Imperial struggles, lay the prosperous island of Sicily. Sicily had seen territorial gains on the European mainland, as well as in the Holy Land, during the reign of the two rulers Maria I and Pietro IV. The current ruler Martino I, despite having held the throne for many years, failed to prove his worth in the same direct way as his predecessors. He knew he had to make some mark on history so that he need not be remembered as a failure compared to his two great ancestors.

Among the common folk, however, Martino was a beloved king. They cared little for prestige and grand conquests, only for their purses. Martino subsidized merchants to go far away places to bring wealth to Sicily. Even the conquered provinces he inherited from his predecessors seemed to have forgotten the forcible conversion of the population the Sicilians had sponsored.

At last, Martino saw an opportunity. Sicily held rightful claim to the province of Athens, which was held by the merchant republic of Venice. Venice had drawn a war with Tuscany and seemed completely unable to defend her territory overseas. All we had to do was ask Epirus, our vassal, for military access and we could completely circumvent the Venitian navy, and our troops could march on Athens. Problem was, Tuscany got there first.

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The king decided to wait and see. Hopefully Tuscany would be satisfied with monetary reparations from Venice, and leave the province open to us.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11912 Posts
November 18 2011 12:04 GMT
#98
What is our relationship to those tuscan fools? There is a high probability that neither of those two sides will accept any peace for a long time. Unless....If our navy is superior to the venetian one, you could consider parking them outside of venice, to make it possible for the tuscans to actually get there and end their war. Not that is expect them to be able to. If we don't like them, you could also consider just slaughering all of them for having the audacitiy of occupying our province.
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
November 18 2011 12:29 GMT
#99
Our fleet is nothing compared to the Venetian one, and it would take many years and ducats to be able to challenge them navally.

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Tuscany is within our reach, they're the three purple provinces shown here. I'm fairly certain we could win any war against them, as they're beset by foes already. We're seperated by the Papal State who is our ally. However, they're all Imperial provinces, and without a proper casus belli, I see nothing good coming from such a war, other than being able to remove the Tuscans from Athens. We would then need a second war with Venice and her allies to annex Athens.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10910 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 12:37:05
November 18 2011 12:31 GMT
#100
Hm.. In none of my games was Tuscany ever in a position to war on Venice... Strange ^^.

If Tuscany is occupied with Venice, can't we just take out Tuscany for some more Italian provinces?
And.. Epirus is our Vassal but we are not allied with them (you had to ask for military acess?). Why? .


Maim, burn, kill!

Edit: Oh.. From that screenshot Bohemia is allready in Italy? Probably not smart to attack the HRE then .
But in general... We are not in the HRE. So the Emperor could/will allways intervene when we declare war on a HRE Country, or am I missing something?

Btw:
Has the Papal state any (other) allies? That would be an easy target at a nice position with good provinces?
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