
Mediterraean empire is fine goal, conquer every province that is adjentc to mediterraaen..
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Silvanel
Poland4732 Posts
![]() Mediterraean empire is fine goal, conquer every province that is adjentc to mediterraaen.. | ||
beef42
Denmark1037 Posts
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
On November 14 2011 23:21 Fruscainte wrote: I think it's rather dangerous to be heading to the Middle East right now. Too many things that can just fuck us up. Namely the Timurds, Mamaluks, etc. the mameluks are pretty much done for, they were in civil war for my entire turn, and with aragon+us and threats from other muslim nations i see no way they could stabilize and pose a serious threat, the worst the timurids could do is push us back out of jerusalem, bad but not really a disaster. | ||
Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On November 15 2011 02:14 nttea wrote: Show nested quote + On November 14 2011 23:21 Fruscainte wrote: I think it's rather dangerous to be heading to the Middle East right now. Too many things that can just fuck us up. Namely the Timurds, Mamaluks, etc. the mameluks are pretty much done for, they were in civil war for my entire turn, and with aragon+us and threats from other muslim nations i see no way they could stabilize and pose a serious threat, the worst the timurids could do is push us back out of jerusalem, bad but not really a disaster. I just think that, logically, Italy should be fought over right now rather than the extremely shitty and poor Middle East. I mean, if you capture Rome you get 100% Papacy relations for like, the entire game no matter what I believe. | ||
nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
On November 15 2011 02:20 Fruscainte wrote: Show nested quote + On November 15 2011 02:14 nttea wrote: On November 14 2011 23:21 Fruscainte wrote: I think it's rather dangerous to be heading to the Middle East right now. Too many things that can just fuck us up. Namely the Timurds, Mamaluks, etc. the mameluks are pretty much done for, they were in civil war for my entire turn, and with aragon+us and threats from other muslim nations i see no way they could stabilize and pose a serious threat, the worst the timurids could do is push us back out of jerusalem, bad but not really a disaster. I just think that, logically, Italy should be fought over right now rather than the extremely shitty and poor Middle East. I mean, if you capture Rome you get 100% Papacy relations for like, the entire game no matter what I believe. well northern italy belongs in the HRE, it's a fucking mess occupying HRE territory so unless we get core missions i don't see the point. Also the papal state is already our ally and i didn't think walking over them without CB and taking a massive infamy hit was that great an idea so i took the best opportunity i could find, the conquest of jerusalem bonus is pretty damn great; +0,50 missionary (allows for a greater innovativeness without losing ability to convert) and +1% prestige/year. | ||
Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
Good job so far guys ![]() | ||
Simberto
Germany11590 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On November 15 2011 03:40 Simberto wrote: It's not that hard dealing with HRE territory, just remove it from the empire as soon as you gain it. However, we don't really necessarily need to become Italy. There are many viable things to do now, so lets see what Psycho_Gemni comes up with. For example, there is also still that juicy core in Athens which is not yet reclaimed. i have convulsive spasms whenever i have unclaimed territory hurting my prestige, its like i neeeeed to capture it or i cant play on. On November 15 2011 02:20 Fruscainte wrote: Show nested quote + On November 15 2011 02:14 nttea wrote: On November 14 2011 23:21 Fruscainte wrote: I think it's rather dangerous to be heading to the Middle East right now. Too many things that can just fuck us up. Namely the Timurds, Mamaluks, etc. the mameluks are pretty much done for, they were in civil war for my entire turn, and with aragon+us and threats from other muslim nations i see no way they could stabilize and pose a serious threat, the worst the timurids could do is push us back out of jerusalem, bad but not really a disaster. I just think that, logically, Italy should be fought over right now rather than the extremely shitty and poor Middle East. I mean, if you capture Rome you get 100% Papacy relations for like, the entire game no matter what I believe. some of the middle east is just fine, and depending on the trade situation all territory can be good. | ||
Simberto
Germany11590 Posts
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Capresis
United States518 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11590 Posts
And in my opinion, you don't really have to finish as fast as the first two have. Take your time. I said in the OP something about 3 days, and still think that is a reasonable amount of time. So just play for another day, look how far you can get and what you can accomplish. | ||
Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
![]() P.s. We really really need to grab northen italy if we want to create an empire. ![]() | ||
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Denmark697 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11590 Posts
Also, Northern africa has the disadvantage of being wrong culture group, wrong religion, and distant overseas. | ||
beef42
Denmark1037 Posts
I'm pretty sure it was established in the mother thread that if a province is less than 250 units from the capital it can never be distant overseas. Our strategic position in the Mediterranean can surely facilitate rapid expansion in heathen North Africa, God willing. | ||
Simberto
Germany11590 Posts
However, if we manage to control all of the mediterranean shore at one point, that is no longer a problem, since in that case we have a land connection to north africa. | ||
Silvanel
Poland4732 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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