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Maggost
Profile Joined August 2011
Venezuela296 Posts
July 31 2012 15:09 GMT
#281
I was a fan of Armored Core series on Playstation, now i am looking forward to this one!
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Obsidian
Profile Joined June 2010
United States350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 15:12:28
July 31 2012 15:11 GMT
#282
On July 31 2012 22:56 WiljushkA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 11:05 rwrzr wrote:
I'm calling in now. People are going to complain about long range mechs "sniping." Can't wait!


people are actually complaining that sniping is useless, and everyone is building pure brawler builds. all the weapons with travel time have huge lag issues, and the projectiles are slow as fuck, and er lasers do fuck all dps and have huge heat.
mpl and srm boats are the flavor of the month.


Some truth here. Some issues currently. You can snipe somewhat, but getting the kill via? Not practical. Your going to splash a lot of pieces, and maybe do plenty of damage (if you can account for lag, fire-delay and bullet travel time), but that won't bring down your opponent.

On August 01 2012 00:09 Maggost wrote:
I was a fan of Armored Core series on Playstation, now i am looking forward to this one!


This is not Armored Core. Mechs are slow, unwieldy and really... fairly low-high tech for all that. It's more true to other Mechwarrior games than Armored Core, but combat is far slower. Just be prepared.
Luke, you are still a wanker!
Maggost
Profile Joined August 2011
Venezuela296 Posts
July 31 2012 16:03 GMT
#283
On August 01 2012 00:11 Obsidian wrote:This is not Armored Core. Mechs are slow, unwieldy and really... fairly low-high tech for all that. It's more true to other Mechwarrior games than Armored Core, but combat is far slower. Just be prepared.



Yeah i know it's way slower, but i love mech based games!
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Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2570 Posts
July 31 2012 19:04 GMT
#284
On July 31 2012 22:56 WiljushkA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 11:05 rwrzr wrote:
I'm calling in now. People are going to complain about long range mechs "sniping." Can't wait!


people are actually complaining that sniping is useless, and everyone is building pure brawler builds. all the weapons with travel time have huge lag issues, and the projectiles are slow as fuck, and er lasers do fuck all dps and have huge heat.
mpl and srm boats are the flavor of the month.


Pretty much. There are issues with pretty much every weapon except M/S PL and L, UAC5 and SRMs. Especially LRMs, the LBX10, the flamer and Gauss Rifle. Also half the maps have huge problems and the base capturing mechanic is fairly wacked at the moment, but luckily is being changed.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 31 2012 20:23 GMT
#285
Whats wrong with LRMs? Seem fine to me
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Obsidian
Profile Joined June 2010
United States350 Posts
July 31 2012 22:21 GMT
#286
If you have a battery of LRM boats, you can do plenty of damage if you have spotters. In a direct fight? Near worthless.

1v1? Much the same, they splash damage like nothing.
Luke, you are still a wanker!
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 31 2012 22:53 GMT
#287
So what? Thats how LRMs are supposed to work...

Not every weapon is awesome in a brawl...
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 22:56:53
July 31 2012 22:54 GMT
#288
Guys, seriously, NDA.

Especially when some of what's being posted is wrong...
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
August 01 2012 07:04 GMT
#289
On August 01 2012 07:54 Belisarius wrote:
Guys, seriously, NDA.

Especially when some of what's being posted is wrong...


If they want to discuss it then let them discuss it. It's at their own risk and for everyone elses enjoyment to read/maybe see a video about it. It's not like they're going to be banned from retail anyways.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 01 2012 07:28 GMT
#290
On August 01 2012 16:04 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 07:54 Belisarius wrote:
Guys, seriously, NDA.

Especially when some of what's being posted is wrong...


If they want to discuss it then let them discuss it. It's at their own risk and for everyone elses enjoyment to read/maybe see a video about it. It's not like they're going to be banned from retail anyways.


Some people take the NDA as their validation as belonging to an elite crew of testers and those on the outside of beta are "unworthy". I've been in so many betas it's just blech for me at this point. I used to take the things super serious, though, so maybe Beli is somewhat newer? They let in every person who paid for their game... their NDA is meaningless at this point get off your high horse.

((I'm not advocating breaking the NDA in serious ways, but cmon... the stuff in this thread is pennies))

However, if he is correct about some stuff being posted being wrong that's a bummer.
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11106 Posts
August 01 2012 07:45 GMT
#291
Well for the beta players then simple question, for a Beta game would you still pull the trigger and get it after playing beta?
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 01 2012 15:11 GMT
#292
Absolutely. Easily worth the $60 I paid. And I've said that about precisely 2 games in the past.
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Obsidian
Profile Joined June 2010
United States350 Posts
August 01 2012 16:09 GMT
#293
I'd recommend waiting for awhile to see how it fleshes out.

They've made a few promises that they may have backtracked on, and some of them sounded pretty important. That the 'tech' level was supposed to evolved in accordance with Battletech Lore may or may not exist. Clans, Clan Invasion, and how that's working may not happen at all. Currently there's a very finite limit on mechs and maps that makes it boring, quick, along with a very serious lack of support for socializing/guild/clan/faction.

If gameplay is unchanged from current, it will get stale quickly.
Luke, you are still a wanker!
scur2d2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada104 Posts
August 01 2012 18:18 GMT
#294
Im really excited for this, maybe get a TL group going..
Bite off more than you can chew, then chew it.
Jopz
Profile Joined January 2008
United States262 Posts
August 02 2012 00:38 GMT
#295
Is there a TL group in beta now? How often do you guys play together, and how would one hook up with the group?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 02 2012 00:40 GMT
#296
On August 02 2012 09:38 Jopz wrote:
Is there a TL group in beta now? How often do you guys play together, and how would one hook up with the group?


contact igrok.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 02 2012 00:50 GMT
#297
Yeah, send a pm with your skype contact info and i'll get you set up
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 05:58:43
August 02 2012 03:35 GMT
#298
On August 01 2012 16:28 Risen wrote:
Some people take the NDA as their validation as belonging to an elite crew of testers and those on the outside of beta are "unworthy". I've been in so many betas it's just blech for me at this point. I used to take the things super serious, though, so maybe Beli is somewhat newer? They let in every person who paid for their game... their NDA is meaningless at this point get off your high horse.

I realise that this guy's been temped, but come on. Sure you haven't got a horse of your own? For one thing, the buy-in nature of the MWO beta makes it about the least elite crew in the world.

The point is that the game is not finished and a huge number of things are likely to change. Every single person in every game has stuff that they don't like, and in a beta, lots of people think their pet issue is gamebreaking and are willing to evangelise it. That doesn't mean they're correct. The NDA is there to stop people spreading their preferences and prejudices as gospel truth, and scaring off potential buyers.

Do I think the NDA is futile now that anyone can buy in? Absolutely.
Do I think they should have ironed out the issues before starting to take people's money? Absolutely.
Do I think it's their own fault for starving their fans to the point where beta guys are wellsprings of information? Absolutely.
And do I have my own issues with the game? Oh man, let me count the ways...

But they chose to do it this way, and even if I disagree, I don't want to see the game being misrepresented. It will be a different beast when it goes live. I hope so, anyway.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2570 Posts
August 02 2012 10:09 GMT
#299
The issue with LRMs isn't damage, it's that it's incredibly easy to dodge them because there's no TAG of any kind yet.
Obsidian
Profile Joined June 2010
United States350 Posts
August 02 2012 16:33 GMT
#300
How do you dodge them? I've seen 140+mph jenners still get hit. Sure, some will miss, but actually actively dodging them? Best I can hope for is to break lock. Even terrain is of limited help as they are raining down from a pretty high angle normally.
Luke, you are still a wanker!
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