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iLLusive
Profile Joined March 2010
United States274 Posts
January 04 2013 20:12 GMT
#1461
Anyone have a scroll of resurrection please PM me thanks! Would love to check out the new expansion being I finally have a day off today!
The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving.
jexxto
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom284 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 08:02:21
January 14 2013 07:58 GMT
#1462
On January 05 2013 05:12 iLLusive wrote:
Anyone have a scroll of resurrection please PM me thanks! Would love to check out the new expansion being I finally have a day off today!


Hey I'm guessing you got one by now, but if not I can send you a scroll of resurrection.

Or if any other old wow players are interested it's definitely the best expansion since TBC, worth a look imo. I only came back 2 weeks ago and been enjoying it so far. The Rated BG's are pretty fun, and PvP in general is better than it was in Cata and WotLK.

Post your email in this thread or PM and I'll send you a resurrection
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 01:23:45
January 21 2013 01:23 GMT
#1463
How deep is the pet battle system? I never played WoW before but I'm curious.

Are pet battles are deep (so deep that it could be its own stand alone game that I'd play every day!) or no?

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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
January 21 2013 01:59 GMT
#1464
On January 21 2013 10:23 Goldfish wrote:
How deep is the pet battle system? I never played WoW before but I'm curious.

Are pet battles are deep (so deep that it could be its own stand alone game that I'd play every day!) or no?



No. Think of a simplified version of pokemon's combat system.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 21 2013 02:17 GMT
#1465
On January 21 2013 10:59 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 10:23 Goldfish wrote:
How deep is the pet battle system? I never played WoW before but I'm curious.

Are pet battles are deep (so deep that it could be its own stand alone game that I'd play every day!) or no?



No. Think of a simplified version of pokemon's combat system.


Sorry to butt into this conversation, but what could be simpler than pokemon's combat system, lol.
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totauksz
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Ghana190 Posts
January 21 2013 02:46 GMT
#1466
On December 04 2012 12:44 Maxyim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 02:21 Crownlol wrote:
On November 04 2012 02:27 Takkara wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:34 Silentness wrote:
On October 24 2012 10:54 Slaughter wrote:
On October 21 2012 03:45 Sophia wrote:
I don't miss old WoW. Rogues were OP as shit... before they normalized weapon speed damage. BARMAN Shanker anyone? Stunlock the shit out of people... cheap shot-> kidney shot -> blind -> restealth... repeat until you die. Back before there were pvp trinkets.


I played Hunter (Rank13) and both Warrior (Rank11) and Rouge (Rank11) in Vanilla and have to disagree. Warrior > Rogue > Caster.
Vanilla WoW was just not balanced for 1v1. WoW was never ultra-competetive, PvP can never be 100% fair. But WoW was so much fun back in the days. From Sorrow Hill to Tarren's Mill into Month of AV/WSG Farming. I even remember doing open PvP with my MS-Warri and my Holy-Pally infront of AQ. We "two-manned" complete 10-man AQ-Grps, Warrior with support (Blessing of Freedom/Dispell) was just unstoppable!
I only played Random in the Vanilla-Bgs and I have no idea how many WSGs I won by myself with my hunter. If there was a somewhat good Drood or Pally in the WSG, we won already. In Vanilla you could show your Skill and Experience. If I would play now again, I would just get roflstomped by People with Heirlooms at Lowlevel and by Casuals who farmed 1000 BGs for their Epic-PvP-Gear with 32432423 Resilience.

Vanilla and TBC was just the most fun I had ever in a Videogame and its so sad what the MMO Genre has become now.


Warriors when they had Windfury weapon from the totem lol the bitching from Alliance "we no get windfury totem".


Or the horde complaining that they have to throw down totems and that they don't get 5 minute blessings.

Oh yeah and I miss the barman shanker days, the beta rogue where sap lasted an eternity LOL, and Zulian trinket that gave like +60 energy or some shit. So OP


The Zulian trinket didn't exist in beta. ZG was added much much later.

EDIT: Unless you just meant that both individually were OP, which is more or less true.



He means Renataki's which wasn't even that broken. Mut rogues were completely unplayable without that trinket. The Zandalarian Hero Charm + that other on-use mage trinket were much worse.


FYI, there was no Mut in vanilla... Shall I presume you mean Seal Fate backstab? I personally did all my PvP with combat daggers / some points in Subt.

Although, I will have to say, that my favorite rogue of all time was my BC combat/subt shadowstep hemo. Who was the guy who popularized that, Reckful? I remember it spread like wildfire after he (or someone else) beat an unbeatable gnome warrior on PTR dueling (think it was Serennia).

By the way, whatever happened to Happymingi?

EDIT - WTF, World of Ming is DEAD???


my favorite style was double adrenaline rush with mace spec in tbc

except that it wasn't really a style, it was just raping anyone in 5 second with a pyroblast/etc while the other guy is polymorphed.

I literally felt dirty when I abused this to reach 2300ish, but it got nerfed pretty fast;)

played as heavy poison muti later, but wasn't really able to get the 2200 weapons..

then when at the start of wotlk paladins killed everything in 2 second that wasn't a caster, I rolled a frost mage and a disco priest, and I became one of those ridiculous unkillable healers

ahh nostalgy. I loved wow, wotlk kinda killed it for me though
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
January 21 2013 03:02 GMT
#1467
Wow Vanilla... /tear

by far the best time in all of WoW for myself personally.

Was on Lightnings Blade with a bunch of PvP legends from that "era" would give anyways to have vanilla wow back.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
January 21 2013 03:47 GMT
#1468
On January 21 2013 12:02 MaestroSC wrote:
Wow Vanilla... /tear

by far the best time in all of WoW for myself personally.

Was on Lightnings Blade with a bunch of PvP legends from that "era" would give anyways to have vanilla wow back.


Vanilla PvP was kinda terrible tbh. Rogues were insanely overpowered against anyone NOT a warrior. Warlocks (that is, me) were the whipping boys for most everyone except mages (because mages were one trick ponies). At least in the small scale, locks were really good in groups for multiple fears and lots of DoT damage spread out.

I really just want to play Vanilla again at some point because servers actually felt like communities. This cross realm BG/Dungeon/Raid finder pretty much destroyed the game for me in a lot of respects.
totauksz
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Ghana190 Posts
January 21 2013 04:20 GMT
#1469
On January 21 2013 12:47 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 12:02 MaestroSC wrote:
Wow Vanilla... /tear

by far the best time in all of WoW for myself personally.

Was on Lightnings Blade with a bunch of PvP legends from that "era" would give anyways to have vanilla wow back.


Vanilla PvP was kinda terrible tbh. Rogues were insanely overpowered against anyone NOT a warrior. Warlocks (that is, me) were the whipping boys for most everyone except mages (because mages were one trick ponies). At least in the small scale, locks were really good in groups for multiple fears and lots of DoT damage spread out.

I really just want to play Vanilla again at some point because servers actually felt like communities. This cross realm BG/Dungeon/Raid finder pretty much destroyed the game for me in a lot of respects.


after death coil buff destro locks were kinda unbeatable in 1v1 with good gear though. in vanilla.

rawgs/enhancement shamans/arms warriors/pyro mages/shadowpriests were all retarded lol. paladins and druids were complete crap- the balance was terrible. but the world pvp in xr was like the best ever. I spent whole afternoons pvping there on Dragonblight.

also being one of the pvp guys was kind of a nice feeling, there were some great players there and all of them were humongous nerds with no lives lol- there was this shaman guy who made it to HW without ever being in a party, and it was actually like 4-5 chinese guys playing the char non stop lol

BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
January 21 2013 06:25 GMT
#1470
I remember zulu charm and that thing that dropped in MC. One shotting kids with shatter. lulz.

"Pvp guilds" were mostly bad. I remember our raiding guild would roll them whenever we did premades. They just pvp'd a hell of a lot more, they definitely weren't "better".
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
January 21 2013 06:37 GMT
#1471
On January 21 2013 15:25 BluePanther wrote:
I remember zulu charm and that thing that dropped in MC. One shotting kids with shatter. lulz.

"Pvp guilds" were mostly bad. I remember our raiding guild would roll them whenever we did premades. They just pvp'd a hell of a lot more, they definitely weren't "better".


Raid gear was best for everything back in vanilla. Thats why most premades consisting of players who raided a lot would stomp everyone that didnt raid.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 21 2013 08:38 GMT
#1472
Especially weapons. You had to get r14 to get comparable weapons you get from PvE. Well, surprise, not everyone hit r14.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
January 21 2013 08:38 GMT
#1473
On January 21 2013 15:37 DaCruise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 15:25 BluePanther wrote:
I remember zulu charm and that thing that dropped in MC. One shotting kids with shatter. lulz.

"Pvp guilds" were mostly bad. I remember our raiding guild would roll them whenever we did premades. They just pvp'd a hell of a lot more, they definitely weren't "better".


Raid gear was best for everything back in vanilla. Thats why most premades consisting of players who raided a lot would stomp everyone that didnt raid.



That's only partially true. At the time it was released (and PvP was played en masse), HWL gear was better than their T1 counterparts. It wasn't until much later in T2/3 that raid gear became better. And even then, due to itemization, it wasn't significantly better.
totauksz
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Ghana190 Posts
January 21 2013 11:50 GMT
#1474
On January 21 2013 17:38 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 15:37 DaCruise wrote:
On January 21 2013 15:25 BluePanther wrote:
I remember zulu charm and that thing that dropped in MC. One shotting kids with shatter. lulz.

"Pvp guilds" were mostly bad. I remember our raiding guild would roll them whenever we did premades. They just pvp'd a hell of a lot more, they definitely weren't "better".


Raid gear was best for everything back in vanilla. Thats why most premades consisting of players who raided a lot would stomp everyone that didnt raid.



That's only partially true. At the time it was released (and PvP was played en masse), HWL gear was better than their T1 counterparts. It wasn't until much later in T2/3 that raid gear became better. And even then, due to itemization, it wasn't significantly better.


in Vanilla, pvp gear just gave more stamina, which was quite important, but it required humongous effort to complete the set, t2 level gear was much easier to get after everyone started farming some bosses. but iirc of some items there were no decent viable pvp counterparts (like amulet or 2nd trinket), so a guy who was in a good build had an advantage in pvp too. if the guild struggled with hard bosses, the weapons were that made the difference because they were almost as good as the best t2 weaps and had slow attack speed.

later in AQ and Naxx PvE gear was clearly superior.

and btw after the exp came out I was a lone wolf rogue in tbc with full gladiator set and kara level daggers , and I would put on my ME GUSTA face whenever one of those "raiding guilds" entered a bg, and proceeded to gank them to death without dieing even once
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
January 22 2013 02:43 GMT
#1475
Is it still a huge bitch to grind PvP gear once you hit max level? I only ever play arena and I feel like trying to catch up in gear is just going to take so damn long.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
January 22 2013 03:06 GMT
#1476
On January 22 2013 11:43 DEN1ED wrote:
Is it still a huge bitch to grind PvP gear once you hit max level? I only ever play arena and I feel like trying to catch up in gear is just going to take so damn long.

It's a huge bitch to grind everything these days. They've started gating things by time moreso than anything else (for PvE at least) by limiting the amount of shit you can get during a single day. I think it applies to some sort of honor bonuses once a day, but I have no idea about arena points. I haven't done competitive arena since Season 3/4.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
January 22 2013 03:21 GMT
#1477
I'm about to ding to 90 tonight, I have a lot of backlogged achievements and junk to do. Oddly this game grind is fun again!
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BobbysBack
Profile Joined June 2011
United States77 Posts
January 22 2013 03:30 GMT
#1478
On January 22 2013 12:06 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 11:43 DEN1ED wrote:
Is it still a huge bitch to grind PvP gear once you hit max level? I only ever play arena and I feel like trying to catch up in gear is just going to take so damn long.

It's a huge bitch to grind everything these days. They've started gating things by time moreso than anything else (for PvE at least) by limiting the amount of shit you can get during a single day. I think it applies to some sort of honor bonuses once a day, but I have no idea about arena points. I haven't done competitive arena since Season 3/4.


Next patch they're changing conquest so you can pretty much catch up no matter how far behind you are. Plus a new tier of pvp gear.

I don't pvp, but it should be interesting.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 19:53:51
January 26 2013 19:49 GMT
#1479
Hey guys, is the monk class any good/fresh? I've played all classes endgame PvE and PvP so far in the previous expansions, I was wondering if I should take a look at the MoP expansion and the new class.

I have some gold that I could sell in D3 to get the expansion free.
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Satire
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada295 Posts
January 26 2013 23:44 GMT
#1480
On January 27 2013 04:49 Derrida wrote:
Hey guys, is the monk class any good/fresh? I've played all classes endgame PvE and PvP so far in the previous expansions, I was wondering if I should take a look at the MoP expansion and the new class.

I have some gold that I could sell in D3 to get the expansion free.


It's pretty fun - but if you burned out on WoW in general, you probably wouldn't notice a huge difference. I used to play top end, and am enjoying playing causally. The only thing that has turned me off about the game is the emphasis on daily things. If I have one day a week where I can sit down for 4-5 hours to do stuff, I want to be able to accomplish things. As it sits even if there is "one goal" I have, I can only do bits and pieces at a time and that is really frustrating. Especially with the daily reputation crap.
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