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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 25 2013 15:05 GMT
#1501
On April 25 2013 23:24 Savage88 wrote:
The MMO Genre is dead - thanks to WoW! -.-

Lol wat?
Off-season = best season
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 15:45:26
April 25 2013 15:43 GMT
#1502
On April 25 2013 21:24 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 01:03 LaNague wrote:
monk healing any good?

i have that little "play a healer in an mmo" itch again.
I tried Rift, but the engine is so freaking clunky, hard to enjoy.


Or Druid? Though i dont like the Moonkin form very much.


I still haven't fathomed monk healing yet it confuses me....You can heal via dps'n it seems and using the free cast with heavy damage, but i have only leveled one up to 66 at the moment and have had 0 trouble in dungeons. Might be a different story when i get to heorics etc but i have no problems with them so far.

Best Healers are;

Priest
Druid
Paladin
Shaman
Monk

IMO, but Priest is like miles ahead as the best class in Panda. DPS burst is fucking insane for PvP and DPS in general is competitive PVE, and the healing for both PVP and PVE is just stupidly good.




i have looked at some statistics and it seems that holy priests and monks have the highest troughput on the raid in most cases.
Especially discipline priests fall off quite hard once the damage gets really high and they cant "steal" all healing via shields.

I have a 70 monk right now, ill level a priest second. Trying out the monk before i submit to Chakras :D





Also, i agree that servers had better communities once there wasnt autogrouping, but being matched for dungeons and being able to start a dungeon within 5 minutes also has its upsides.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
April 25 2013 16:24 GMT
#1503
On April 26 2013 00:43 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 21:24 Pandemona wrote:
On April 16 2013 01:03 LaNague wrote:
monk healing any good?

i have that little "play a healer in an mmo" itch again.
I tried Rift, but the engine is so freaking clunky, hard to enjoy.


Or Druid? Though i dont like the Moonkin form very much.


I still haven't fathomed monk healing yet it confuses me....You can heal via dps'n it seems and using the free cast with heavy damage, but i have only leveled one up to 66 at the moment and have had 0 trouble in dungeons. Might be a different story when i get to heorics etc but i have no problems with them so far.

Best Healers are;

Priest
Druid
Paladin
Shaman
Monk

IMO, but Priest is like miles ahead as the best class in Panda. DPS burst is fucking insane for PvP and DPS in general is competitive PVE, and the healing for both PVP and PVE is just stupidly good.




i have looked at some statistics and it seems that holy priests and monks have the highest troughput on the raid in most cases.
Especially discipline priests fall off quite hard once the damage gets really high and they cant "steal" all healing via shields.

I have a 70 monk right now, ill level a priest second. Trying out the monk before i submit to Chakras :D





Also, i agree that servers had better communities once there wasnt autogrouping, but being matched for dungeons and being able to start a dungeon within 5 minutes also has its upsides.


Monks pretty much tank healers though. There aoe healing is limited to uplift and the totem thingy and throwing healing spheres everywhere xD
But yeah play both and try the difference, the best way
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Savage88
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany132 Posts
April 25 2013 16:30 GMT
#1504
On April 26 2013 00:05 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 23:24 Savage88 wrote:
The MMO Genre is dead - thanks to WoW! -.-

Lol wat?


Name me one good Hardcore-MMO...
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
April 25 2013 17:06 GMT
#1505
On April 26 2013 01:30 Savage88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 00:05 Redox wrote:
On April 25 2013 23:24 Savage88 wrote:
The MMO Genre is dead - thanks to WoW! -.-

Lol wat?


Name me one good Hardcore-MMO...


eve online
Savage88
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany132 Posts
April 26 2013 03:32 GMT
#1506
On April 26 2013 02:06 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 01:30 Savage88 wrote:
On April 26 2013 00:05 Redox wrote:
On April 25 2013 23:24 Savage88 wrote:
The MMO Genre is dead - thanks to WoW! -.-

Lol wat?


Name me one good Hardcore-MMO...


eve online


...Eve is a fucking Economy-Simulation and no MMORPG. There is no, and will never be, a MMO like WoW Vanilla/TBC. -_-
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
April 26 2013 04:30 GMT
#1507
On April 26 2013 01:30 Savage88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 00:05 Redox wrote:
On April 25 2013 23:24 Savage88 wrote:
The MMO Genre is dead - thanks to WoW! -.-

Lol wat?


Name me one good Hardcore-MMO...

DaoC
Darkfall
dont know if darkfall unholy wars is good, didnt play it much.

(btw i play wow altho my nickname says otherwise) mages are so OP.
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 26 2013 04:38 GMT
#1508
On April 26 2013 13:30 ffswowsucks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 01:30 Savage88 wrote:
On April 26 2013 00:05 Redox wrote:
On April 25 2013 23:24 Savage88 wrote:
The MMO Genre is dead - thanks to WoW! -.-

Lol wat?


Name me one good Hardcore-MMO...

DaoC
Darkfall
dont know if darkfall unholy wars is good, didnt play it much.

(btw i play wow altho my nickname says otherwise) mages are so OP.


What about Rift?
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
April 26 2013 04:53 GMT
#1509
So while I wait for next FFXIV beta phase, i'm thinking about coming back to WoW for some arena.
Is there anything similar to a scroll of resurrection (ie. the level boost to 80) that doesn't require an inactive account that has been inactive since March 2012?
I have an old account I bought the Battle Chest for (for legitimate WC3, mostly) but that was April 2012 so I missed the cut off point.
Immaterial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada510 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 05:26:19
April 27 2013 05:13 GMT
#1510
EDIT: nevermind, ineligible.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 18:41:47
April 27 2013 18:40 GMT
#1511
On April 26 2013 13:53 ReignSupreme. wrote:
So while I wait for next FFXIV beta phase, i'm thinking about coming back to WoW for some arena.
Is there anything similar to a scroll of resurrection (ie. the level boost to 80) that doesn't require an inactive account that has been inactive since March 2012?
I have an old account I bought the Battle Chest for (for legitimate WC3, mostly) but that was April 2012 so I missed the cut off point.

PM me your bnet email. I have scrolls of ressurections.

On April 26 2013 13:38 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 13:30 ffswowsucks wrote:
On April 26 2013 01:30 Savage88 wrote:
On April 26 2013 00:05 Redox wrote:
On April 25 2013 23:24 Savage88 wrote:
The MMO Genre is dead - thanks to WoW! -.-

Lol wat?


Name me one good Hardcore-MMO...

DaoC
Darkfall
dont know if darkfall unholy wars is good, didnt play it much.

(btw i play wow altho my nickname says otherwise) mages are so OP.


What about Rift?

Rift is dead mate...
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
April 27 2013 18:53 GMT
#1512
On April 28 2013 03:40 ffswowsucks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 13:53 ReignSupreme. wrote:
So while I wait for next FFXIV beta phase, i'm thinking about coming back to WoW for some arena.
Is there anything similar to a scroll of resurrection (ie. the level boost to 80) that doesn't require an inactive account that has been inactive since March 2012?
I have an old account I bought the Battle Chest for (for legitimate WC3, mostly) but that was April 2012 so I missed the cut off point.

PM me your bnet email. I have scrolls of ressurections.


PM'd you but I think you missed what I actually asked
Satire
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada295 Posts
April 28 2013 00:21 GMT
#1513
On April 25 2013 23:15 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 22:56 Savage88 wrote:
Its sad what happened to WoW. Until Wrath of the Casualking - the Game was pretty awesome.


I stopped playing toward the end of Sunwell in TBC, Our guild got relatively 'stuck' on Muru - I think we got him once.

Not long after, they released a giaaaaaaant nerf hammer on Sunwell and it all became trivial again.

That was pretty much when I realised that the amount of effort to stay ahead of the 'nerf curve' wasnt really enough for me to want to keep playing/raiding.

Loved my time playing it, but as others said, the original realms etc with 'elite players' that had an almost legend/myth behind them... you'd occasionally see them port in from a raid dungeon you havent even seen yet and idolise their character before they went off and werent seen for another week or so. It just made it seem more like a real scenario, rather than a heap of nobodise with random alts and shit all floating around namelessly queuing for crossrealm dungeons.


I was one of those people back in the day, and it was fun. My raiding guild was top 50 US and the best by a long shot on my small server. I also ran a casual raid 2 nights a week, and we were 4th on our server in progression - which was huge as we beat some raiding guilds doing up to 4 nights a week and were true casual players. I was head of a casual LFG type thing that was server wide. We organized 30 raids between almost 100 small guilds so people could raid back then that could only commit between 1 and 3 nights a week depending. It fostered so many relationships. Had an open Black Temple run too, where we managed to down the first 6 bosses too with complete weekly PUGs. Was so much fun what you could accomplish.

Then dailies came in to the picture. I hated dailies. Heroic modes of bosses were really lame. It was hard to muster any sort of raid team to work on heroic modes of bosses they had already killed. I ended up quitting half way through WOTLK, along with many of the other guilds and runs on our server.

Even after I quit and was still running our mass server PUG, the eventual nail in the coffin was the LFG tool. It's definitely good and bad, but it took away some of the epicness of raiding. I think what I miss the most is just having to work on something. Rather than do the same 30 daily quests over and over grinding reputation, I'd rather have to do a big quest chain going through various dungeons to get attuned to a new area. When you finished, you had a sense of accomplishment. Even if you were casual, it gave you an end point to work on over time.

I started playing PVP again for MoP and it's not bad. I can't get into raiding at all though anymore, even though I used to love it. I don't touch daily quests so I can't get reputation gains to buy PVE epics. I enjoy doing dungeons a lot, but I really don't need any of the gear anymore. Raids with faceless people are really boring too... I haven't made any new friends since I started playing again. It seems like everyone is anonymous and just does group things by themselves. It doesn't feel a lot much of a social game anymore.
Satire is a lesson, parody is a game.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
April 28 2013 01:25 GMT
#1514
On April 25 2013 21:24 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 01:03 LaNague wrote:
monk healing any good?

i have that little "play a healer in an mmo" itch again.
I tried Rift, but the engine is so freaking clunky, hard to enjoy.


Or Druid? Though i dont like the Moonkin form very much.


I still haven't fathomed monk healing yet it confuses me....You can heal via dps'n it seems and using the free cast with heavy damage, but i have only leveled one up to 66 at the moment and have had 0 trouble in dungeons. Might be a different story when i get to heorics etc but i have no problems with them so far.

Best Healers are;

Priest
Druid
Paladin
Shaman
Monk

IMO, but Priest is like miles ahead as the best class in Panda. DPS burst is fucking insane for PvP and DPS in general is competitive PVE, and the healing for both PVP and PVE is just stupidly good.

http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/players/Throne_of_Thunder/hps/
id say its pretty equal. Only druids suck these days, but thats because every other class is not worried about going oom anymore and just spams heals so the druid hots dont even have time to heal someone.
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 03:00:39
April 28 2013 02:55 GMT
#1515
<ignore>
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
April 28 2013 03:03 GMT
#1516
On April 26 2013 01:30 Savage88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 00:05 Redox wrote:
On April 25 2013 23:24 Savage88 wrote:
The MMO Genre is dead - thanks to WoW! -.-

Lol wat?


Name me one good Hardcore-MMO...


Eve Online.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 28 2013 03:43 GMT
#1517
On April 28 2013 12:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 01:30 Savage88 wrote:
On April 26 2013 00:05 Redox wrote:
On April 25 2013 23:24 Savage88 wrote:
The MMO Genre is dead - thanks to WoW! -.-

Lol wat?


Name me one good Hardcore-MMO...


Eve Online.

Spreadsheets online?

Anyway, don't feed the troll, he'll just say he doesn't like any game that you put forth as an example either to be a dick or because he just doesn't like MMO games at all (or both).

Personally, I've had a bunch of free time over the last month and have used it playing The Secret World, which is basically WoW-lite. Fairly enjoyable if monotonous.
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
April 29 2013 08:37 GMT
#1518
Can anyone that has played a mage competitively (maybe gladiator title) from EU or US help me out to learn more on this class and be able to master it? I was a top player with warrior and recently switched to mage. I can do lots of dps but survivalibility and being able to throw down CC's is what I am missing out. You can also check my latest video on youtube for some 2v2 frost mage/hpala. Looking for help!
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
April 30 2013 01:30 GMT
#1519
so i tried monk, but i flat out hate the dps spec, so boring.
I like the tank gameplay, but the whole theme with throwing kegs is irritating.

Mistweaver is...well. It heals for a LOT, but you cant really react to damage, you have to allready have the mists on the target that take heavy ae damage. I dont know, i didnt like it that much.


Leveling a druid now, who are kind of behind a bit in healing, but by the time i catched up, who knows :D
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
April 30 2013 07:02 GMT
#1520
if you are gonna play a dudu, dont make the same mistake I did and go 90 and play as resto/balance. Play it as feral/tank.
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
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