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On October 24 2012 11:34 Silentness wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 10:54 Slaughter wrote:On October 21 2012 03:45 Sophia wrote:I don't miss old WoW. Rogues were OP as shit... before they normalized weapon speed damage. BARMAN Shanker anyone? Stunlock the shit out of people... cheap shot-> kidney shot -> blind -> restealth... repeat until you die. Back before there were pvp trinkets. I played Hunter (Rank13) and both Warrior (Rank11) and Rouge (Rank11) in Vanilla and have to disagree. Warrior > Rogue > Caster. Vanilla WoW was just not balanced for 1v1. WoW was never ultra-competetive, PvP can never be 100% fair. But WoW was so much fun back in the days. From Sorrow Hill to Tarren's Mill into Month of AV/WSG Farming. I even remember doing open PvP with my MS-Warri and my Holy-Pally infront of AQ. We "two-manned" complete 10-man AQ-Grps, Warrior with support (Blessing of Freedom/Dispell) was just unstoppable! I only played Random in the Vanilla-Bgs and I have no idea how many WSGs I won by myself with my hunter. If there was a somewhat good Drood or Pally in the WSG, we won already. In Vanilla you could show your Skill and Experience. If I would play now again, I would just get roflstomped by People with Heirlooms at Lowlevel and by Casuals who farmed 1000 BGs for their Epic-PvP-Gear with 32432423 Resilience. Vanilla and TBC was just the most fun I had ever in a Videogame and its so sad what the MMO Genre has become now. Warriors when they had Windfury weapon from the totem lol the bitching from Alliance "we no get windfury totem". Or the horde complaining that they have to throw down totems and that they don't get 5 minute blessings. Oh yeah and I miss the barman shanker days, the beta rogue where sap lasted an eternity LOL, and Zulian trinket that gave like +60 energy or some shit. So OP
The Zulian trinket didn't exist in beta. ZG was added much much later.
EDIT: Unless you just meant that both individually were OP, which is more or less true.
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On November 02 2012 13:48 thatsundowner wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2012 00:26 Madkipz wrote:
I dislike the notion of 10 man raids anyhow, and as a vanilla raider i feel 25 man should be the only viable raiding style while 10man was reduced to stuff like UBRS. They will never manage to balance the two different raidmodes to be compatible. Some bosses are harder in 10 while some are harder in 25, it's fine
Yes. It`s fine as it is, but I said I thought it would be better with just one raidmode, and then 10 man could basically be an upgrade from 5 man dungeons to allow for shorter queues and larger pulls.
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EDIT: Wrong thread, sorry.
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I've been pretty much bedridden level sick the last couple days, so I decided to download the trial. The panda starting area is decent, but I just can't bring myself to level past 85. The quests are so boring and samey and don't have the nostalgia value of older quests. Even the play doesn't have the same nostalgia value. I'm affliction, and I can't cast shadowbolt anymore, all of my skills are dots and channels. That's INSANELY BORING to play 
My DK isn't much different, my priest is kinda weird, and I really don't care much about the rest of the classes. Perhaps it's just the fact I went into it not expecting to be impressed, but I couldn't even get past the first questline before I was too bored to do anything. Running low lvl dungeons on my alt was the only time I actually had fun, but that was in large part due to the nostalgia value. All the dungeons were run in complete silence by people I did not know and would never see again thanks to the double-sided innovation of the cross-realm dungeon finder.
None of the new quests/areas have anything new (that I saw, I ran the entire panda starting zone and the first few quests of both alliance and horde side, predictably mirrored and almost identical to the Twilight Highlands intro), or at least not new enough to make me actually enjoy the gameplay. In short, WoW is still dead for me, nostalgia is the only saving grace and it's just not present in any of the new areas.
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On November 02 2012 13:48 thatsundowner wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2012 00:26 Madkipz wrote:
I dislike the notion of 10 man raids anyhow, and as a vanilla raider i feel 25 man should be the only viable raiding style while 10man was reduced to stuff like UBRS. They will never manage to balance the two different raidmodes to be compatible. Some bosses are harder in 10 while some are harder in 25, it's fine
I know when i was doing Rag in my guild on 10man,(where you only got 1rez of course) 1 death before the meteor phase pretty much guaranteed a wipe. In the offchance your tank fucked up and died in p3, if you'd already used your rez you were dead no matter what. Since his debuff would stack on the other tank with its like 50k/s debuff+ his like 90k autoattacks. was always one of my most memorable ones
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On November 04 2012 02:19 epoc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 10:44 Sophia wrote:
Now after the 10 Day Pandaland Trial is finally available, I tried it with my Holly Pally and got bored after ~60min. I've "healed" (aka AFK'ed) the two Level85 dungeons and done ~4 Quests in Pandaland.
The only thing I got from this sessions was that they removed Auras WTF?!?!?!?! Was it too hard for the casuals to use Auras or what?
Thats exactly why WoW is so terrible, because Blizz removed all the fun stuff with no reason at all.
User was temp banned for this post. Panda trial? Where can you get that?
you can just activate it in your bnet account when you click on your WoW account
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I tried to name a char Jaedongraegu but blizzard censors dong -_- Just remembered why Jaedong goes by JD now in SC2. gdi blizzard!
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On November 10 2012 18:44 Tachion wrote:
I tried to name a char Jaedongraegu but blizzard censors dong -_- Just remembered why Jaedong goes by JD now in SC2. gdi blizzard!
I tried to name my Zergling Jaedong . It is now named Ee Han Timing.
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Anyone going to be watching the WoW part of the World Championship?
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long shot, but does anyone here play on Frostmourne? i have a request to make of you!
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is there a TL server? i got back into the game and i no longer know anyone to pvp with since i didnt play cata
was glad on a few dif classes and r1 on 2 so would be amazing if there was a TL crew that pvp'd
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Pandemona
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On December 03 2012 22:35 sunglasseson wrote:
is there a TL server? i got back into the game and i no longer know anyone to pvp with since i didnt play cata
was glad on a few dif classes and r1 on 2 so would be amazing if there was a TL crew that pvp'd
The basic TLDR Info
New Guild starting with level 1 characters on Sunday, March 25th.
Server: Lightning's Blade (US-PvP)
Guild: IMBA*
Faction: Horde
Mumble(Voice): 76.74.238.52 port 2412
Contact Info: "Masq" on TL, or "MasqIPY" on AIM, or ask anyone in IMBA.
Theres another wow thread  it's details is in there.
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are there any good pvpers in the guild that you know of?
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Pandemona, could you link?
@ sunglasseson, same boat as you; quit after s3 in tbc, looking to get back into game for teh pvpz.
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@TL guild, send me a shout when you get close to new content and I may dust off my 300+ days /played undead rogue fossil. He is 85 atm.
On November 04 2012 02:27 Takkara wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 11:34 Silentness wrote:On October 24 2012 10:54 Slaughter wrote:On October 21 2012 03:45 Sophia wrote:I don't miss old WoW. Rogues were OP as shit... before they normalized weapon speed damage. BARMAN Shanker anyone? Stunlock the shit out of people... cheap shot-> kidney shot -> blind -> restealth... repeat until you die. Back before there were pvp trinkets. I played Hunter (Rank13) and both Warrior (Rank11) and Rouge (Rank11) in Vanilla and have to disagree. Warrior > Rogue > Caster. Vanilla WoW was just not balanced for 1v1. WoW was never ultra-competetive, PvP can never be 100% fair. But WoW was so much fun back in the days. From Sorrow Hill to Tarren's Mill into Month of AV/WSG Farming. I even remember doing open PvP with my MS-Warri and my Holy-Pally infront of AQ. We "two-manned" complete 10-man AQ-Grps, Warrior with support (Blessing of Freedom/Dispell) was just unstoppable! I only played Random in the Vanilla-Bgs and I have no idea how many WSGs I won by myself with my hunter. If there was a somewhat good Drood or Pally in the WSG, we won already. In Vanilla you could show your Skill and Experience. If I would play now again, I would just get roflstomped by People with Heirlooms at Lowlevel and by Casuals who farmed 1000 BGs for their Epic-PvP-Gear with 32432423 Resilience. Vanilla and TBC was just the most fun I had ever in a Videogame and its so sad what the MMO Genre has become now. Warriors when they had Windfury weapon from the totem lol the bitching from Alliance "we no get windfury totem". Or the horde complaining that they have to throw down totems and that they don't get 5 minute blessings. Oh yeah and I miss the barman shanker days, the beta rogue where sap lasted an eternity LOL, and Zulian trinket that gave like +60 energy or some shit. So OP The Zulian trinket didn't exist in beta. ZG was added much much later. EDIT: Unless you just meant that both individually were OP, which is more or less true.
I used to love the Renataki combo. I had Perds from mid-2004, which did more than 2.0 Barman; never got any of the stronger daggers though (qq RNG). I remember running up to some fools, turning on Blade Flurry, stealthing (out of combat), and AoE Amboosh > Backstab > Vanish > Amboosh, with renataki backstabs to finish off the survivors.
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On December 03 2012 23:15 chilledjuice wrote:
Pandemona, could you link?
@ sunglasseson, same boat as you; quit after s3 in tbc, looking to get back into game for teh pvpz.
Why on earth would you want to play this game for PvP? They break it for extended periods after every expansion, it won't be till at least next season when there's a semblance of balance.
If you like arena PvP, go play Forge or Bloodline Champions or something, no reason to bother with WoW for that.
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On December 04 2012 01:50 deth2munkies wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 23:15 chilledjuice wrote:
Pandemona, could you link?
@ sunglasseson, same boat as you; quit after s3 in tbc, looking to get back into game for teh pvpz. Why on earth would you want to play this game for PvP? They break it for extended periods after every expansion, it won't be till at least next season when there's a semblance of balance. If you like arena PvP, go play Forge or Bloodline Champions or something, no reason to bother with WoW for that.
Because it is accessible and fun. No reason to not bother with it while it is there. I despise WoW just as much as the next raving gaming elitist, but it is not fair to say that it is completely without its merits.
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As a multi glad rogue, priest and druid, this expansion is terrible PvP wise. To much one shot macros and burst from Ret palys, Warriors, Mages and BM Hunters.
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On November 04 2012 02:27 Takkara wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 11:34 Silentness wrote:On October 24 2012 10:54 Slaughter wrote:On October 21 2012 03:45 Sophia wrote:I don't miss old WoW. Rogues were OP as shit... before they normalized weapon speed damage. BARMAN Shanker anyone? Stunlock the shit out of people... cheap shot-> kidney shot -> blind -> restealth... repeat until you die. Back before there were pvp trinkets. I played Hunter (Rank13) and both Warrior (Rank11) and Rouge (Rank11) in Vanilla and have to disagree. Warrior > Rogue > Caster. Vanilla WoW was just not balanced for 1v1. WoW was never ultra-competetive, PvP can never be 100% fair. But WoW was so much fun back in the days. From Sorrow Hill to Tarren's Mill into Month of AV/WSG Farming. I even remember doing open PvP with my MS-Warri and my Holy-Pally infront of AQ. We "two-manned" complete 10-man AQ-Grps, Warrior with support (Blessing of Freedom/Dispell) was just unstoppable! I only played Random in the Vanilla-Bgs and I have no idea how many WSGs I won by myself with my hunter. If there was a somewhat good Drood or Pally in the WSG, we won already. In Vanilla you could show your Skill and Experience. If I would play now again, I would just get roflstomped by People with Heirlooms at Lowlevel and by Casuals who farmed 1000 BGs for their Epic-PvP-Gear with 32432423 Resilience. Vanilla and TBC was just the most fun I had ever in a Videogame and its so sad what the MMO Genre has become now. Warriors when they had Windfury weapon from the totem lol the bitching from Alliance "we no get windfury totem". Or the horde complaining that they have to throw down totems and that they don't get 5 minute blessings. Oh yeah and I miss the barman shanker days, the beta rogue where sap lasted an eternity LOL, and Zulian trinket that gave like +60 energy or some shit. So OP The Zulian trinket didn't exist in beta. ZG was added much much later. EDIT: Unless you just meant that both individually were OP, which is more or less true.
He means Renataki's which wasn't even that broken. Mut rogues were completely unplayable without that trinket. The Zandalarian Hero Charm + that other on-use mage trinket were much worse.
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On December 04 2012 02:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:
As a multi glad rogue, priest and druid, this expansion is terrible PvP wise. To much one shot macros and burst from Ret palys, Warriors, Mages and BM Hunters.
I quit after the first season of Cata (2400+ Sham/Mage/Lock/Rogue). I'm checking out Forge- arena PvP with no PvE balance or items.
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