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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 09:14:36
November 10 2011 09:14 GMT
#341
On November 10 2011 16:44 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 15:11 Manifesto7 wrote:
1-3-1 I think you mean. I would love to pay 100 dollars for tickets to watch men stand on skates!


I think what the Flyers did out there tonight is stupid. The 1-3-1 is an effective way of clogging up the neutral zone and slowing the pace of the game, but it is hardly impenetrable. In fact there are several ways to get through a 1-3-1 defensive setup effectively.

All you really need is good puck possession, actually... and you can get through in any number of ways. Hell, it isn't even like the Bolts employ a good 1-3-1. They are always a touch tentative and they lack consistent speed throughout the lineup to cash in on counter attacks. Not only that but they have mediocre goaltending and panic once they hit their own zone. Despite how hard they trap they have the 5th highest goals against average in the league, and their best two defensman are injured. We aren't talking about an impenetrable defensive stalwart here, we are talking about a defensively lacking team play a system to correct it.

That is actually one of the reasons why I like the smaller rinks; makes the game faster because the dump and chase is always a viable tactic. In a euro rink you can't dump and chase and therefor are forced to skate through such a trap. Turns the game into a soccer match... boooring. Also makes it look easier to take the puck to the outside on offense leading to less quality scoring chances in prime positions, and more shots from weak far angles.

Imo, I think the second/third times the refs blew down the play they should have given out some delay of game penalties. That isn't Hockey is embarrassing.

Refs couldn't do anything. They shoulda just called the play dead quicker. First time they took almost 40 seconds. It was obvious what was happening after 5seconds. I also expect the NHL to just ignore this as to not draw any more attention to it.
Easiest way to beat 1-3-1 is dump and chase with speed. They cannt touch you without getting a penalty until your behind their net with the puck.
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Pseudo_Utopia
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada827 Posts
November 10 2011 19:45 GMT
#342
The thing about this trap is that 1 defenseman is REALLY far back so that if you want to dump and chase, that D-man will almost always get to the puck cleanly first, essentially forcing you to carry the puck through and turn it over unless you do it just right like that youtube clip of Horton's goal. I understand the Flyers' point but you can't just refuse to play because the other team adopts a defensive posture... You just take your time, do it carefully and try to find weaker spots, imo.

That was one weird game though. After Tampa beating Philly 8-7 last year I expected a better one.
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Xela
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada203 Posts
November 10 2011 20:15 GMT
#343
Can somebody tell me what's happening with Eric Staal? 5 points in 15 games for a guy who got at least 70 in his last 6 years is pretty ugly... I didnt catch any of carolina's games this year but I don't understand why he slumps like this playing with jeff skinner who has 14 points.


In other news, crosby will not be back this weekend lolloollololol, still isn't 100% after 10 months what a pussy hahaha I just hope he's ready to destroy the league when he does finally come back
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=600115
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
November 10 2011 20:18 GMT
#344
he's missing Eric Cole

oh and he might be on a guilty trip for hitting and injuring his brother (Marc) whom still has a concussion
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 11 2011 02:49 GMT
#345
On November 11 2011 04:45 Pseudo_Utopia wrote:
The thing about this trap is that 1 defenseman is REALLY far back so that if you want to dump and chase, that D-man will almost always get to the puck cleanly first, essentially forcing you to carry the puck through and turn it over unless you do it just right like that youtube clip of Horton's goal. I understand the Flyers' point but you can't just refuse to play because the other team adopts a defensive posture... You just take your time, do it carefully and try to find weaker spots, imo.

That was one weird game though. After Tampa beating Philly 8-7 last year I expected a better one.


You can definitely dump in chase, just need to attack both sides with speed and rim it in hard. Hell, Tampa gets owned on the cycle all the time anyway, it is kind of funny really.

I've played against Bhantom teams that executed the 1-3-1 better back in the day, actually. I find it funny how much of a stand the Flyers tried to make.

Just play the game, imo.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
November 11 2011 07:21 GMT
#346
I think Crosby is in a hockey pool and didn't get to draft himself so hes sabotging the guy that drafted him...

Only thing that makes sense IMO :p
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Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
November 11 2011 08:14 GMT
#347

Jesus, how does the sedin line do it?
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4037 Posts
November 12 2011 10:33 GMT
#348
On November 11 2011 17:14 Taku wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehnJoxscXrk&feature=channel_video_title
Jesus, how does the sedin line do it?


sick posession dude, impressive hockey right there
Drone is a way of living
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32107 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 20:39:15
November 16 2011 20:38 GMT
#349





purrrrrty

Flyers were also big babies for doing that. Everyone else seems to play through it fine but the team with awesome forwards? pleeeeaseeee
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JLew
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada353 Posts
November 16 2011 20:55 GMT
#350
On November 11 2011 05:15 Xela wrote:
Can somebody tell me what's happening with Eric Staal? 5 points in 15 games for a guy who got at least 70 in his last 6 years is pretty ugly... I didnt catch any of carolina's games this year but I don't understand why he slumps like this playing with jeff skinner who has 14 points.


In other news, crosby will not be back this weekend lolloollololol, still isn't 100% after 10 months what a pussy hahaha I just hope he's ready to destroy the league when he does finally come back
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=600115


You need to look at how Staals scoring is broken down in the past years... He almost always starts off bad and is usually one of the top players after the all star break and leading into the playoffs.

Also losing Cole probably isn't helping.
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JLew
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada353 Posts
November 16 2011 20:57 GMT
#351
On November 11 2011 17:14 Taku wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehnJoxscXrk&feature=channel_video_title
Jesus, how does the sedin line do it?


The problem is they only do this when they are up 2:0 in a regular season game.

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kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
November 18 2011 13:57 GMT
#352

How is this even possible or even more to pro player....!?!?!?!?
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Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 14:48:05
November 18 2011 14:47 GMT
#353
The way it can happen to any pro. It did not matter in the end at least for his team.

+ Show Spoiler [non hockey related goal miss] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__MYtxwS1t8&feature=related
He is one of the highest paid players in the English Premier League
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32107 Posts
November 18 2011 14:48 GMT
#354
Ain't got nothing on Patrick Stefan. That's the greatest sequence ever.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 18 2011 23:51 GMT
#355
On November 17 2011 05:57 JLew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 17:14 Taku wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehnJoxscXrk&feature=channel_video_title
Jesus, how does the sedin line do it?


The problem is they only do this when they are up 2:0 in a regular season game.



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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 18 2011 23:53 GMT
#356
If anything, that's even worse than Patrick Stefan. The only reason it's not is because Toronto didn't come back after he missed. I mean, he had the puck on his forehand three feet in front of the net, and he tries to roof it instead of just sliding it in or something.
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Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
November 20 2011 06:02 GMT
#357
HOLY did anyone see the Oilers vs Blackhawks game. 9-2 Oilers, with Taylor hall getting a hat trick and Nugent-Hopkins with 5 assists. WOW.
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Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
November 20 2011 07:08 GMT
#358
They blow out the Canucks and then get thumped in Alberta wtf
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
November 20 2011 07:10 GMT
#359
Well when Ray Emery is in net, it doesn't count lol.

But Toronto did blow out the Caps 7-1
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 08:02:11
November 20 2011 08:01 GMT
#360
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