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irninja
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1220 Posts
October 11 2011 09:21 GMT
#1061
That's spoutcraft, which has been linked numerous times throughout the thread and is also now located in Tier 4 of the OP.
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sunshineduck
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2 Posts
October 11 2011 14:02 GMT
#1062
On October 11 2011 10:29 sunshineduck wrote:
yo, i can't connect to the server. i'm behind a college campus firewall and need to manually request my VPN provider to open ports for me, so i'm assuming that's the problem. i get a "can't reach server" error in minecraft and request timed out when trying a /ping from the command line. what ports do i need to forward to be able to connect? i have the default minecraft port opened already.


bumping this. halp plz<3
no u
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
October 11 2011 14:27 GMT
#1063
Is it normal that Spoucraft makes me lag hard?
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
Terrix
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany305 Posts
October 11 2011 14:54 GMT
#1064
I found a really cool mountainous area and I want to start a faction with buildings up against/in the mountains, really awesome looking place would look even better with huge buildings climbing up the walls!!!! I don't really even want to be a faction leader but if we get 5 people together that would be awesome? PM me and I can show you the place (give you coordinates too)
wurz
Profile Joined October 2011
Great Britain11 Posts
October 11 2011 16:11 GMT
#1065
On October 11 2011 23:54 Terrix wrote:
I found a really cool mountainous area and I want to start a faction with buildings up against/in the mountains, really awesome looking place would look even better with huge buildings climbing up the walls!!!! I don't really even want to be a faction leader but if we get 5 people together that would be awesome? PM me and I can show you the place (give you coordinates too)


sounds like a nice place for like a barbarian sort of faction, gl getting the men and building it up post print-screens when ya done.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 20:02:07
October 11 2011 19:31 GMT
#1066
Looks like the town guards are sleeping on the job. Time to seek my own revenge.

Oh yeah, hope you enjoyed earning that stone pick and 2 cobble, Josri.

EDIT: Templar are just camping the shops with 3 armed members...

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#TeamBuLba
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 19:52:17
October 11 2011 19:50 GMT
#1067
I've been offline all day so I wouldn't know what actually happened, but those screenshots don't really show anything except you getting killed once and the rest of the server just talking about water.

Admins have already said that you can do whatever in the city when the guards aren't online, I honestly don't know why they don't just make it all safe zone (except the arena) since they just keep getting stricter and stricter on what you're actually allowed to do in city, but it will probably end up there if enough people keep complaining about it.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 20:04:04
October 11 2011 20:02 GMT
#1068
On October 12 2011 04:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I've been offline all day so I wouldn't know what actually happened, but those screenshots don't really show anything except you getting killed once and the rest of the server just talking about water.

Admins have already said that you can do whatever in the city when the guards aren't online, I honestly don't know why they don't just make it all safe zone (except the arena) since they just keep getting stricter and stricter on what you're actually allowed to do in city, but it will probably end up there if enough people keep complaining about it.

The screenshots were posted before the edit, mainly so I'd remember who to kill when I logged back on.

Oh, but the fact that there were 3 Templar there means that I'll have to take down the whole lot of you. Better hide your stuff before I strike.
#TeamBuLba
protentus
Profile Joined October 2011
Denmark29 Posts
October 11 2011 22:13 GMT
#1069
I find it amusing that Loners annihilated templar on the first day and that they are still using stone swords
GigaFlop
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1146 Posts
October 11 2011 22:21 GMT
#1070
On October 12 2011 07:13 protentus wrote:
I find it amusing that Loners annihilated templar on the first day and that they are still using stone swords

Can you PM me with the details on how things have gone since I've been away? I won't be back until later this week, as my power supply is being overnighted, and it might take a while for Resnet to get to installing it. Above this post, in the same bar as my name, is a button that says "PM", in case you haven't used that function yet.
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 22:50:47
October 11 2011 22:23 GMT
#1071
On October 12 2011 07:13 protentus wrote:
I find it amusing that Loners annihilated templar on the first day and that they are still using stone swords


You are misusing the word annihilate, you beat us in one battle (after we had just beaten you in one) and stole all our diamond/iron, but by no means is that annihilating us, and I only use stone swords in town because I don't want an admin to slay me in the city with a diamond sword since they tend to like going after Templar who break neutrality more than they do loners who break neutrality. If you had annihilated us, we would no longer exist as a faction, but the reality is that we're even stronger now than before you attacked us (and also have a lot more iron/diamond than before)

You should know better that we have plenty of diamond swords though because I personally killed you with one last night =)

It's just a matter of common sense, if you want an expendable scout to poke around with, you send a zergling (iron sword), not an ultralisk (diamond sword). I suppose some people lack certain resource management skills though, and a little amusing if you think about the above example.
Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
October 11 2011 22:59 GMT
#1072
On October 12 2011 07:23 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 07:13 protentus wrote:
I find it amusing that Loners annihilated templar on the first day and that they are still using stone swords


You are misusing the word annihilate, you beat us in one battle (after we had just beaten you in one) and stole all our diamond/iron, but by no means is that annihilating us, and I only use stone swords in town because I don't want an admin to slay me in the city with a diamond sword since they tend to like going after Templar who break neutrality more than they do loners who break neutrality. If you had annihilated us, we would no longer exist as a faction, but the reality is that we're even stronger now than before you attacked us (and also have a lot more iron/diamond than before)

You should know better that we have plenty of diamond swords though because I personally killed you with one last night =)

It's just a matter of common sense, if you want an expendable scout to poke around with, you send a zergling (iron sword), not an ultralisk (diamond sword). I suppose some people lack certain resource management skills though, and a little amusing if you think about the above example.


You're adorable, annihilate = destroy completely, utterly, did we or did we not kill all of your members and take the majority of all you had (the loot is irrelevant to the use of annihilate as we did not destroy the templars and their loot, but destroyed the templars, also not to be mistaken for Templar the faction, but the members of Templar, the templars). I find it cute when someone has to defend themselves by saying stuff like "your point is irrelevant because in my opinion you are misusing a term, thus your point is nullified."

Also curious, do Templars intend to raid us? I would gladly lead you guys to our base, its a lot easier to loot corpses the closer they are to our spawn, so if you want I can show you where it is and save both of us some trouble.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 23:50:53
October 11 2011 23:38 GMT
#1073
On October 12 2011 07:59 Sprungjeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 07:23 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 12 2011 07:13 protentus wrote:
I find it amusing that Loners annihilated templar on the first day and that they are still using stone swords


You are misusing the word annihilate, you beat us in one battle (after we had just beaten you in one) and stole all our diamond/iron, but by no means is that annihilating us, and I only use stone swords in town because I don't want an admin to slay me in the city with a diamond sword since they tend to like going after Templar who break neutrality more than they do loners who break neutrality. If you had annihilated us, we would no longer exist as a faction, but the reality is that we're even stronger now than before you attacked us (and also have a lot more iron/diamond than before)

You should know better that we have plenty of diamond swords though because I personally killed you with one last night =)

It's just a matter of common sense, if you want an expendable scout to poke around with, you send a zergling (iron sword), not an ultralisk (diamond sword). I suppose some people lack certain resource management skills though, and a little amusing if you think about the above example.


You're adorable, annihilate = destroy completely, utterly, did we or did we not kill all of your members and take the majority of all you had (the loot is irrelevant to the use of annihilate as we did not destroy the templars and their loot, but destroyed the templars, also not to be mistaken for Templar the faction, but the members of Templar, the templars). I find it cute when someone has to defend themselves by saying stuff like "your point is irrelevant because in my opinion you are misusing a term, thus your point is nullified."

Also curious, do Templars intend to raid us? I would gladly lead you guys to our base, its a lot easier to loot corpses the closer they are to our spawn, so if you want I can show you where it is and save both of us some trouble.


Your bold sentence really makes me believe that you didn't understand my post at all. I'll try to explain this as best I can and give you the benefit of the doubt that you are capable of understanding if I can explain this clearly enough. So, where to begin?

Protentus' post is essentially representing two things, a brag of personal achievement in PVP and at the same time a mockery the defeated party's ability to recuperate from said defeat. He does this based on two claims, one that his faction "annihilated" ours and another that it's amusing that ever since said annihilation, we have been reduced to stone weaponry. It appears you have no problem with my refutation of the second claim (which was probably more of a jokeful, though bm, jab than a serious argument), so I will address your concerns with my refutation of the first.

Now, in the beginning of the bold, you are correct that I am defending myself because I have argued that these assumptions are not true.

Where you go incorrect, however, is the claim that I do this by saying "your point is irrelevant because in my opinion you are misusing a term", which is actually a failed representation of my argument. In no way am I denying the essence of his argument that we were defeated, a fact I actually emphasize in my post when I concede that you defeated us in battle (which you clearly misread or failed to comprehend the significance of when making your post).

What I do deny is the nature of our defeat being an annihilation, assuming the definition of annihilation being one such that an entity that is annihilated ceases to exist after annihilation. It's obvious that under this definition, you did not annihilate us and I believe I adequately explained why this would be the case in my previous post. However, you insist that both loot and the actual faction are irrelevant to the use of the word annihilate, only the members within the faction are relevant. I grant you, if we use this definition of "annihilate", it is true, you annihilated us in battle, but under this same definition it is also true that before you annihilated us in battle, we annihilated you in the battle of Andorhal, in addition to claiming the field. So, I can grant you the fact that you annihilated us after we annihilated you (which sounds absurd if you use the proper definition of annihilate), though I doubt you will accept such conclusion even though it is true that we killed and routed your entire army from Andorhal, which is completely compatible with the definition you gave.

As for our intentions, I cannot speak for each individual member's intentions, but I personally have no intent of raiding the Loner base without a drastically significant numerical advantage. If you actually care, I am willing to provide you with the reasons why I have no intent of besieging your castle without said advantage, but if you give it a small amount of thought I'm sure you could come up with the reasons yourself as they are not necessarily difficult to discover.

What sounds much funner to me is battle in the wilderness, and I'm sure you would agree that it isn't a poor substitute for your suggestion.
GigaFlop
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1146 Posts
October 12 2011 00:02 GMT
#1074
Protentus, you have a new PM. There should be some very noticeable yellow text at the top left area of this page if you haven't read it yet.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ "Shift-Q oftentimes makes a capital Q" - Day[9] || iNcontrol - Alligator from heaven = ^
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 12 2011 00:14 GMT
#1075
Has anyone else had a problem with spoutcraft continually failing to update? I can't get it to work
SUNSFANNED
irninja
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1220 Posts
October 12 2011 00:19 GMT
#1076
On October 12 2011 09:14 BrownBear wrote:
Has anyone else had a problem with spoutcraft continually failing to update? I can't get it to work

Just directly download the latest client. Mine never updates either.
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Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
October 12 2011 00:19 GMT
#1077
On October 12 2011 08:38 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 07:59 Sprungjeezy wrote:
On October 12 2011 07:23 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 12 2011 07:13 protentus wrote:
I find it amusing that Loners annihilated templar on the first day and that they are still using stone swords


You are misusing the word annihilate, you beat us in one battle (after we had just beaten you in one) and stole all our diamond/iron, but by no means is that annihilating us, and I only use stone swords in town because I don't want an admin to slay me in the city with a diamond sword since they tend to like going after Templar who break neutrality more than they do loners who break neutrality. If you had annihilated us, we would no longer exist as a faction, but the reality is that we're even stronger now than before you attacked us (and also have a lot more iron/diamond than before)

You should know better that we have plenty of diamond swords though because I personally killed you with one last night =)

It's just a matter of common sense, if you want an expendable scout to poke around with, you send a zergling (iron sword), not an ultralisk (diamond sword). I suppose some people lack certain resource management skills though, and a little amusing if you think about the above example.


You're adorable, annihilate = destroy completely, utterly, did we or did we not kill all of your members and take the majority of all you had (the loot is irrelevant to the use of annihilate as we did not destroy the templars and their loot, but destroyed the templars, also not to be mistaken for Templar the faction, but the members of Templar, the templars). I find it cute when someone has to defend themselves by saying stuff like "your point is irrelevant because in my opinion you are misusing a term, thus your point is nullified."

Also curious, do Templars intend to raid us? I would gladly lead you guys to our base, its a lot easier to loot corpses the closer they are to our spawn, so if you want I can show you where it is and save both of us some trouble.


Your bold sentence really makes me believe that you didn't understand my post at all. I'll try to explain this as best I can and give you the benefit of the doubt that you are capable of understanding if I can explain this clearly enough. So, where to begin?

Protentus' post is essentially representing two things, a brag of personal achievement in PVP and at the same time a mockery the defeated party's ability to recuperate from said defeat. He does this based on two claims, one that his faction "annihilated" ours and another that it's amusing that ever since said annihilation, we have been reduced to stone weaponry. It appears you have no problem with my refutation of the second claim (which was probably more of a jokeful, though bm, jab than a serious argument), so I will address your concerns with my refutation of the first.

Now, in the beginning of the bold, you are correct that I am defending myself because I have argued that these assumptions are not true.

Where you go incorrect, however, is the claim that I do this by saying "your point is irrelevant because in my opinion you are misusing a term", which is actually a failed representation of my argument. In no way am I denying the essence of his argument that we were defeated, a fact I actually emphasize in my post when I concede that you defeated us in battle (which you clearly misread or failed to comprehend the significance of when making your post).

What I do deny is the nature of our defeat being an annihilation, assuming the definition of annihilation being one such that an entity that is annihilated ceases to exist after annihilation. It's obvious that under this definition, you did not annihilate us and I believe I adequately explained why this would be the case in my previous post. However, you insist that both loot and the actual faction are irrelevant to the use of the word annihilate, only the members within the faction are relevant. I grant you, if we use this definition of "annihilate", it is true, you annihilated us in battle, but under this same definition it is also true that before you annihilated us in battle, we annihilated you in the battle of Andorhal, in addition to claiming the field. So, I can grant you the fact that you annihilated us after we annihilated you (which sounds absurd if you use the proper definition of annihilate), though I doubt you will accept such conclusion even though it is true that we killed and routed your entire army from Andorhal, which is completely compatible with the definition you gave.

As for our intentions, I cannot speak for each individual member's intentions, but I personally have no intent of raiding the Loner base without a drastically significant numerical advantage. If you actually care, I am willing to provide you with the reasons why I have no intent of besieging your castle without said advantage, but if you give it a small amount of thought I'm sure you could come up with the reasons yourself as they are not necessarily difficult to discover.

What sounds much funner to me is battle in the wilderness, and I'm sure you would agree that it isn't a poor substitute for your suggestion.



tl;dr. We annihilated the shit out of Templar.

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Soulfire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States237 Posts
October 12 2011 01:26 GMT
#1078
On October 12 2011 09:19 Sprungjeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 08:38 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 12 2011 07:59 Sprungjeezy wrote:
On October 12 2011 07:23 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 12 2011 07:13 protentus wrote:
I find it amusing that Loners annihilated templar on the first day and that they are still using stone swords


You are misusing the word annihilate, you beat us in one battle (after we had just beaten you in one) and stole all our diamond/iron, but by no means is that annihilating us, and I only use stone swords in town because I don't want an admin to slay me in the city with a diamond sword since they tend to like going after Templar who break neutrality more than they do loners who break neutrality. If you had annihilated us, we would no longer exist as a faction, but the reality is that we're even stronger now than before you attacked us (and also have a lot more iron/diamond than before)

You should know better that we have plenty of diamond swords though because I personally killed you with one last night =)

It's just a matter of common sense, if you want an expendable scout to poke around with, you send a zergling (iron sword), not an ultralisk (diamond sword). I suppose some people lack certain resource management skills though, and a little amusing if you think about the above example.


You're adorable, annihilate = destroy completely, utterly, did we or did we not kill all of your members and take the majority of all you had (the loot is irrelevant to the use of annihilate as we did not destroy the templars and their loot, but destroyed the templars, also not to be mistaken for Templar the faction, but the members of Templar, the templars). I find it cute when someone has to defend themselves by saying stuff like "your point is irrelevant because in my opinion you are misusing a term, thus your point is nullified."

Also curious, do Templars intend to raid us? I would gladly lead you guys to our base, its a lot easier to loot corpses the closer they are to our spawn, so if you want I can show you where it is and save both of us some trouble.


Your bold sentence really makes me believe that you didn't understand my post at all. I'll try to explain this as best I can and give you the benefit of the doubt that you are capable of understanding if I can explain this clearly enough. So, where to begin?

Protentus' post is essentially representing two things, a brag of personal achievement in PVP and at the same time a mockery the defeated party's ability to recuperate from said defeat. He does this based on two claims, one that his faction "annihilated" ours and another that it's amusing that ever since said annihilation, we have been reduced to stone weaponry. It appears you have no problem with my refutation of the second claim (which was probably more of a jokeful, though bm, jab than a serious argument), so I will address your concerns with my refutation of the first.

Now, in the beginning of the bold, you are correct that I am defending myself because I have argued that these assumptions are not true.

Where you go incorrect, however, is the claim that I do this by saying "your point is irrelevant because in my opinion you are misusing a term", which is actually a failed representation of my argument. In no way am I denying the essence of his argument that we were defeated, a fact I actually emphasize in my post when I concede that you defeated us in battle (which you clearly misread or failed to comprehend the significance of when making your post).

What I do deny is the nature of our defeat being an annihilation, assuming the definition of annihilation being one such that an entity that is annihilated ceases to exist after annihilation. It's obvious that under this definition, you did not annihilate us and I believe I adequately explained why this would be the case in my previous post. However, you insist that both loot and the actual faction are irrelevant to the use of the word annihilate, only the members within the faction are relevant. I grant you, if we use this definition of "annihilate", it is true, you annihilated us in battle, but under this same definition it is also true that before you annihilated us in battle, we annihilated you in the battle of Andorhal, in addition to claiming the field. So, I can grant you the fact that you annihilated us after we annihilated you (which sounds absurd if you use the proper definition of annihilate), though I doubt you will accept such conclusion even though it is true that we killed and routed your entire army from Andorhal, which is completely compatible with the definition you gave.

As for our intentions, I cannot speak for each individual member's intentions, but I personally have no intent of raiding the Loner base without a drastically significant numerical advantage. If you actually care, I am willing to provide you with the reasons why I have no intent of besieging your castle without said advantage, but if you give it a small amount of thought I'm sure you could come up with the reasons yourself as they are not necessarily difficult to discover.

What sounds much funner to me is battle in the wilderness, and I'm sure you would agree that it isn't a poor substitute for your suggestion.



tl;dr. We annihilated the shit out of Templar.


Good to know who the intelligent faction is, although zerging people is pretty hard I heard.
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GigaFlop
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1146 Posts
October 12 2011 01:40 GMT
#1079
On October 12 2011 10:26 Soulfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 09:19 Sprungjeezy wrote:
On October 12 2011 08:38 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 12 2011 07:59 Sprungjeezy wrote:
On October 12 2011 07:23 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 12 2011 07:13 protentus wrote:
I find it amusing that Loners annihilated templar on the first day and that they are still using stone swords


You are misusing the word annihilate, you beat us in one battle (after we had just beaten you in one) and stole all our diamond/iron, but by no means is that annihilating us, and I only use stone swords in town because I don't want an admin to slay me in the city with a diamond sword since they tend to like going after Templar who break neutrality more than they do loners who break neutrality. If you had annihilated us, we would no longer exist as a faction, but the reality is that we're even stronger now than before you attacked us (and also have a lot more iron/diamond than before)

You should know better that we have plenty of diamond swords though because I personally killed you with one last night =)

It's just a matter of common sense, if you want an expendable scout to poke around with, you send a zergling (iron sword), not an ultralisk (diamond sword). I suppose some people lack certain resource management skills though, and a little amusing if you think about the above example.


You're adorable, annihilate = destroy completely, utterly, did we or did we not kill all of your members and take the majority of all you had (the loot is irrelevant to the use of annihilate as we did not destroy the templars and their loot, but destroyed the templars, also not to be mistaken for Templar the faction, but the members of Templar, the templars). I find it cute when someone has to defend themselves by saying stuff like "your point is irrelevant because in my opinion you are misusing a term, thus your point is nullified."

Also curious, do Templars intend to raid us? I would gladly lead you guys to our base, its a lot easier to loot corpses the closer they are to our spawn, so if you want I can show you where it is and save both of us some trouble.


Your bold sentence really makes me believe that you didn't understand my post at all. I'll try to explain this as best I can and give you the benefit of the doubt that you are capable of understanding if I can explain this clearly enough. So, where to begin?

Protentus' post is essentially representing two things, a brag of personal achievement in PVP and at the same time a mockery the defeated party's ability to recuperate from said defeat. He does this based on two claims, one that his faction "annihilated" ours and another that it's amusing that ever since said annihilation, we have been reduced to stone weaponry. It appears you have no problem with my refutation of the second claim (which was probably more of a jokeful, though bm, jab than a serious argument), so I will address your concerns with my refutation of the first.

Now, in the beginning of the bold, you are correct that I am defending myself because I have argued that these assumptions are not true.

Where you go incorrect, however, is the claim that I do this by saying "your point is irrelevant because in my opinion you are misusing a term", which is actually a failed representation of my argument. In no way am I denying the essence of his argument that we were defeated, a fact I actually emphasize in my post when I concede that you defeated us in battle (which you clearly misread or failed to comprehend the significance of when making your post).

What I do deny is the nature of our defeat being an annihilation, assuming the definition of annihilation being one such that an entity that is annihilated ceases to exist after annihilation. It's obvious that under this definition, you did not annihilate us and I believe I adequately explained why this would be the case in my previous post. However, you insist that both loot and the actual faction are irrelevant to the use of the word annihilate, only the members within the faction are relevant. I grant you, if we use this definition of "annihilate", it is true, you annihilated us in battle, but under this same definition it is also true that before you annihilated us in battle, we annihilated you in the battle of Andorhal, in addition to claiming the field. So, I can grant you the fact that you annihilated us after we annihilated you (which sounds absurd if you use the proper definition of annihilate), though I doubt you will accept such conclusion even though it is true that we killed and routed your entire army from Andorhal, which is completely compatible with the definition you gave.

As for our intentions, I cannot speak for each individual member's intentions, but I personally have no intent of raiding the Loner base without a drastically significant numerical advantage. If you actually care, I am willing to provide you with the reasons why I have no intent of besieging your castle without said advantage, but if you give it a small amount of thought I'm sure you could come up with the reasons yourself as they are not necessarily difficult to discover.

What sounds much funner to me is battle in the wilderness, and I'm sure you would agree that it isn't a poor substitute for your suggestion.



tl;dr. We annihilated the shit out of Templar.


Good to know who the intelligent faction is, although zerging people is pretty hard I heard.

We like having stuff. You guys have stuff, so we want it. Simple as that.
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Soulfire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States237 Posts
October 12 2011 01:53 GMT
#1080
On October 12 2011 10:40 GigaFlop wrote:
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On October 12 2011 10:26 Soulfire wrote:
On October 12 2011 09:19 Sprungjeezy wrote:
On October 12 2011 08:38 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 12 2011 07:59 Sprungjeezy wrote:
On October 12 2011 07:23 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 12 2011 07:13 protentus wrote:
I find it amusing that Loners annihilated templar on the first day and that they are still using stone swords


You are misusing the word annihilate, you beat us in one battle (after we had just beaten you in one) and stole all our diamond/iron, but by no means is that annihilating us, and I only use stone swords in town because I don't want an admin to slay me in the city with a diamond sword since they tend to like going after Templar who break neutrality more than they do loners who break neutrality. If you had annihilated us, we would no longer exist as a faction, but the reality is that we're even stronger now than before you attacked us (and also have a lot more iron/diamond than before)

You should know better that we have plenty of diamond swords though because I personally killed you with one last night =)

It's just a matter of common sense, if you want an expendable scout to poke around with, you send a zergling (iron sword), not an ultralisk (diamond sword). I suppose some people lack certain resource management skills though, and a little amusing if you think about the above example.


You're adorable, annihilate = destroy completely, utterly, did we or did we not kill all of your members and take the majority of all you had (the loot is irrelevant to the use of annihilate as we did not destroy the templars and their loot, but destroyed the templars, also not to be mistaken for Templar the faction, but the members of Templar, the templars). I find it cute when someone has to defend themselves by saying stuff like "your point is irrelevant because in my opinion you are misusing a term, thus your point is nullified."

Also curious, do Templars intend to raid us? I would gladly lead you guys to our base, its a lot easier to loot corpses the closer they are to our spawn, so if you want I can show you where it is and save both of us some trouble.


Your bold sentence really makes me believe that you didn't understand my post at all. I'll try to explain this as best I can and give you the benefit of the doubt that you are capable of understanding if I can explain this clearly enough. So, where to begin?

Protentus' post is essentially representing two things, a brag of personal achievement in PVP and at the same time a mockery the defeated party's ability to recuperate from said defeat. He does this based on two claims, one that his faction "annihilated" ours and another that it's amusing that ever since said annihilation, we have been reduced to stone weaponry. It appears you have no problem with my refutation of the second claim (which was probably more of a jokeful, though bm, jab than a serious argument), so I will address your concerns with my refutation of the first.

Now, in the beginning of the bold, you are correct that I am defending myself because I have argued that these assumptions are not true.

Where you go incorrect, however, is the claim that I do this by saying "your point is irrelevant because in my opinion you are misusing a term", which is actually a failed representation of my argument. In no way am I denying the essence of his argument that we were defeated, a fact I actually emphasize in my post when I concede that you defeated us in battle (which you clearly misread or failed to comprehend the significance of when making your post).

What I do deny is the nature of our defeat being an annihilation, assuming the definition of annihilation being one such that an entity that is annihilated ceases to exist after annihilation. It's obvious that under this definition, you did not annihilate us and I believe I adequately explained why this would be the case in my previous post. However, you insist that both loot and the actual faction are irrelevant to the use of the word annihilate, only the members within the faction are relevant. I grant you, if we use this definition of "annihilate", it is true, you annihilated us in battle, but under this same definition it is also true that before you annihilated us in battle, we annihilated you in the battle of Andorhal, in addition to claiming the field. So, I can grant you the fact that you annihilated us after we annihilated you (which sounds absurd if you use the proper definition of annihilate), though I doubt you will accept such conclusion even though it is true that we killed and routed your entire army from Andorhal, which is completely compatible with the definition you gave.

As for our intentions, I cannot speak for each individual member's intentions, but I personally have no intent of raiding the Loner base without a drastically significant numerical advantage. If you actually care, I am willing to provide you with the reasons why I have no intent of besieging your castle without said advantage, but if you give it a small amount of thought I'm sure you could come up with the reasons yourself as they are not necessarily difficult to discover.

What sounds much funner to me is battle in the wilderness, and I'm sure you would agree that it isn't a poor substitute for your suggestion.



tl;dr. We annihilated the shit out of Templar.


Good to know who the intelligent faction is, although zerging people is pretty hard I heard.

We like having stuff. You guys have stuff, so we want it. Simple as that.


Could at least pretend to act mature in the process, though.

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