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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32272 Posts
May 03 2005 07:42 GMT
#41
Real actual friends that have heartbeats and stuff.



what? explain.
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SainT
Profile Joined February 2005
Chile1067 Posts
May 03 2005 07:46 GMT
#42
Man i still play heros of might and magic 3, and it's expansion Amageddon. Great Game, it has Hot Seat also
Well i'm a lucky man...
Hydrolisko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Vanuatu1659 Posts
May 03 2005 07:52 GMT
#43
Heroes 3 was the only single player game that i have ever been addicted to, imo the best single player game ever made.. heroes 2 is too old.. play homm3.
Bard
Profile Joined November 2004
Jamaica898 Posts
May 03 2005 08:18 GMT
#44
On May 03 2005 15:17 Oxygen wrote:
I think HoMM3 > 2 > 1 > 4 :O



3>2>1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4

-_-;;
Working on Subtitles..
celix
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada15 Posts
May 03 2005 08:25 GMT
#45
Best map Broken Alliance. Stupidest thing about that map on impossible though was having the purple Wizard (bottom right corner) use dimension door in the 2nd week and bringing a pack of titans with him
Chris307
Profile Joined June 2004
3095 Posts
May 03 2005 19:38 GMT
#46
I just spent, the past 6 hours straight, playing one game, of single-player HoMM2
PUSH DICE CUP BACK AND I SHOOT CRAP
Pro.NT_Knight
Profile Joined November 2004
Australia539 Posts
May 03 2005 19:56 GMT
#47
i liked the original version , i thought the rest got a little over the top and took to long to upgrade and complete all the shit , just needed new maps and maybe new races for the original and it was awesome
Op Pro.NT Usa West
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28601 Posts
May 03 2005 20:05 GMT
#48
day you need to start placing your threads correctly
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[pG]BrEaKdOwN
Profile Joined January 2005
Germany141 Posts
May 03 2005 20:10 GMT
#49
On May 03 2005 06:40 8882 wrote:
heroes2 was very imbalanced IMO. The "castle" town (or however it was called) was probably the weakest (the palladin was a crappy high tech unit), maybe it could do some damage in early game, not sure. The town with phoenix had 2range units I think, still it was pretty weak and expensive. I think that the best town was the one with dragons (despite hydras)
I think barbarian castle was in middle

As for HOMM3 (I remember this game much better) the best town was definitely castle (the one with angels), still on LAN most people I knew preferred to take the dungeon (with black dragons) and one hero with bonus to Logistics and Tactics (Gunnar??), because there was a certain "fast capital with quite a lot of army" BO.
The castle with the devils was probably the most sucky (or maybe it was the swamp one with dragonflies), the barbarian castle was pretty weak too.
The necro castle seemed weak despite the skeletons :/
My friend played HOMM3 multi a lot and said that everyone was choosing "castle", the second was the one with elfes (on bigger maps) and the one with titans was chosen only on really big maps. Only few enthusiasts chose dungeon. Still from my games on LAN where we chose random races and heroes usually the person with dungen or castle won


why the fuck would everyone choose castle? castle is so sucky, theres no good hero in it, archangels cost 3 fucking gems and the castle doesnt even produce gems -_- and i bet u havent fought 10k skeletons yet
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
May 03 2005 21:26 GMT
#50
HoMM3 ownz !
3 > all
Dungeon and Necro ownz !
In Dungeon u take Deemer and kill everyone with Meteor shower thx to double mana.
In Necro u take Thant with Animated Dead and with necromancy u own everyone.
Earth Magic > all
Magic > army
~~

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EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
May 03 2005 21:38 GMT
#51
Oh man, I was looking everywhere for this thread, I was afraid it was closed >.<

I downloaded the game and beat a level, I'm so proud of myself. I had to restart once because my neighbour somehow had black dragons by week 3. How the fuck is that possible, anyone else get pissed when a computer runs you over with end game units 5 minutes into the game?
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
[pG]BrEaKdOwN
Profile Joined January 2005
Germany141 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-03 21:59:35
May 03 2005 21:58 GMT
#52
On May 04 2005 06:26 Musli wrote:
HoMM3 ownz !
3 > all
Dungeon and Necro ownz !
In Dungeon u take Deemer and kill everyone with Meteor shower thx to double mana.
In Necro u take Thant with Animated Dead and with necromancy u own everyone.
Earth Magic > all
Magic > army
~~

ur a homm3 newb :D
army > magic, definetly
8882
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-03 22:05:53
May 03 2005 21:59 GMT
#53
On May 04 2005 05:10 [pG]BrEaKdOwN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2005 06:40 8882 wrote:
heroes2 was very imbalanced IMO. The "castle" town (or however it was called) was probably the weakest (the palladin was a crappy high tech unit), maybe it could do some damage in early game, not sure. The town with phoenix had 2range units I think, still it was pretty weak and expensive. I think that the best town was the one with dragons (despite hydras)
I think barbarian castle was in middle

As for HOMM3 (I remember this game much better) the best town was definitely castle (the one with angels), still on LAN most people I knew preferred to take the dungeon (with black dragons) and one hero with bonus to Logistics and Tactics (Gunnar??), because there was a certain "fast capital with quite a lot of army" BO.
The castle with the devils was probably the most sucky (or maybe it was the swamp one with dragonflies), the barbarian castle was pretty weak too.
The necro castle seemed weak despite the skeletons :/
My friend played HOMM3 multi a lot and said that everyone was choosing "castle", the second was the one with elfes (on bigger maps) and the one with titans was chosen only on really big maps. Only few enthusiasts chose dungeon. Still from my games on LAN where we chose random races and heroes usually the person with dungen or castle won


why the fuck would everyone choose castle? castle is so sucky, theres no good hero in it, archangels cost 3 fucking gems and the castle doesnt even produce gems -_- and i bet u havent fought 10k skeletons yet


lol, archangels? in a game on a middle size map you would never tech to archangels
however there were certain builds that allowed you to mass basic units quickly (castle units are pretty powerful) + quite fast capitol for stable or fast angels
you can easily mass a huge amount of good units with castle, definitely castle>necro
maybe vs comps you could explore a giant map and mass 10k skeletons...

On May 04 2005 06:26 Musli wrote:
HoMM3 ownz !
3 > all
Dungeon and Necro ownz !
In Dungeon u take Deemer and kill everyone with Meteor shower thx to double mana.
In Necro u take Thant with Animated Dead and with necromancy u own everyone.
Earth Magic > all
Magic > army
~~



magic sucks in HOMM3. It is useful only late game, when you have a really powerful character. Plus the useful spells are pretty hard to reach (mass slow, chain lightning).
In HOMM2 it was easy to make a mage character quite fast and they totally owned. In HOMM3 there are just to many units, even the level 5 earth spell implosion with expert earth magic (not to mention expert wisdom as a prerequisite and a huge amount of resources) and the "brown crystal ball"(whatever) did like 2000damage with ~15power (LOL!). That's like dunno 6,5 tytans...

still the fly spell and especially town portal usually meant victory.. that was a hella imbalance


it's so true that you won't come back to HOMM2 if you play HOMM3, second part is too simple, still the graphics in 3rd part suck
I have returned
[pG]BrEaKdOwN
Profile Joined January 2005
Germany141 Posts
May 03 2005 22:04 GMT
#54
hmm yeah i dont play small maps, but i dont think castle can beat necro on small maps.
vampire lords > crusader, liches > zealots, black knights > champions.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4110 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-03 22:14:32
May 03 2005 22:07 GMT
#55
So far noone here had a clue about the balance in HOMM3.I feel too lazy to explain datailed now ,but I played HOMM3(Shadow of death) a lot at pro level with the best players in the world and I often went top 5 at tournaments and the guy who teached me to play heroes was N1 in the world heroes ladders for a long period.So balance is like that:
Necropolis is the best town,many levels above other towns.Its forbidden at tournaments:-))With necro good player can beat 2 good players against him if they play other towns (except if they pick flux )
The Second is flux(conflux) the only town that stand a chance against necropolis,but still Necro>Flux,also flux is forbidden at tournaments.
Next are the tournamet towns(the towns which everyone picks when playing important matct) -Rampart,Castle,Dungeon and an idea behing,but playable- Stronghold .This towns are pretty even ,but the map size and template plays huge role at their balance.Rampart is the most flexible race from them and thats why the most used.Rampart is equally strong at any map,but the castle is strong at XL map even a little stronger than Rampart and weaker at L maps and useless on smaller maps than L.Dungeon has the hero(Shakti) with most potential from all tournamet towns ,if u have a day with shakti u'll crush rampart and castle on any map.Without shakti noone pick dungeon to play with.Stronghold are good town but to win with them is like playing ZvP on semi-island map,but they can do it with that hero with the balista speciallity I cant remeber his name now sorry(I stopped played heroes for 4 years maybe)
The rest towns are crap-Tower,Inferno and Fortress,the difference between them and the tournamnet towns is not that big like between tournament towns and Necro&Flux ,but still noone will play with them in important matches.
p.s note that The most powerfull heroes are the diplomacy heroes,but they are also forbidden.Diplomacy heroes are even bigger than Necropolis.Logistic heroes are also forbidden.
p.s.s when I played HOMM1&2 I was noob and playes with friends so I am not clear which towns are stronger,but I can answer very detailed about everything related with HOMM3
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
May 03 2005 22:40 GMT
#56
This sux so much, most of the best skills are forbidden ;/
StarCraft : 26.IX.2001 - 8.XII.2004 (1167 days) R.I.P [`]
HowitZer
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1610 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-03 23:00:24
May 03 2005 22:55 GMT
#57
Was heroes 2 the one where the endgame was often times the computer doing armegeddon to kill your whole army?

Also has anyone been able to install the posted HOMM2 on windows 2000?
Human teleportation, molecular decimation, breakdown and reformation is inherently purging. It makes a man acute.
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
May 03 2005 23:00 GMT
#58
I always win playing like that. Small map or big one, magic is very powerfull. Especially these spells. I produce army and use spells. I take a lot of artifacts and using spells i dont waste my army. I back, regenerate my mana and go kill creatures and find skills and artifacts. But is boring to kill everyone and same way =]
And, yes I didnt play vs humans coz I didnt have internet than. Vs comps its effective :D
When I got internet I started to play SC and thats why I see, my strategies arent too good vs people, as u said =]

Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
May 03 2005 23:02 GMT
#59
and Heroes 4 with 3D sux like anything else =)
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
May 03 2005 23:08 GMT
#60
On May 03 2005 02:16 Legionnaire wrote:
Phoenixs were so weak for an ultimate unit, fortunately you could get them pretty quick and got so more of them then other races each week.

Also magic races owned non magic races mid to late game. Chain lightning and ressurrect so good


the big advantage to pheonixes is that they are Ultra Fast, so no matter WHO you end up fighting, you ALWAYS get to cast the first spell

its nightmarish fighting a mid to high level sorceress as undead
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