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paralleluniverse
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Gingerninja
United Kingdom1339 Posts
http://counter-strike-go.fr/index.php?file=news&idnews=74 I'm probably not going to play this mode that much tbh, and the new maps valve added to source weren't exactly winners either. (de_port, cs_compound) maybe they'e just forgotten how to make good maps? | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
The best maps either came from before Valve bought CS by the likes of Barney and others or from independent leagues like the CPL maps and updated revisions. The only thing their mappers have been able to do decently are revisions such as Inferno, and even there they're hit or miss. The official Valve only maps, though, are really bad. Storm, Torn, Chateau, Piranesi, Airstrip, etc. Tbh the Sourceish maps are a legitimate complaint. We'll see how they play out in actual competition but i have a hard time seeing how stuff like the dust2 long a doors or CT balcony on train can be positive features for map balance. And there's just no reason to have c confidence in their people since they've never made good competitive maps before. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
On April 16 2012 05:56 Jibba wrote: Valve never knew how to make good maps. Never ever ever ever. The best maps either came from before Valve bought CS by the likes of Barney and others or from independent leagues like the CPL maps and updated revisions. The only thing their mappers have been able to do decently are revisions such as Inferno, and even there they're hit or miss. The official Valve only maps, though, are really bad. Storm, Torn, Chateau, Piranesi, Airstrip, etc. Tbh the Sourceish maps are a legitimate complaint. We'll see how they play out in actual competition but i have a hard time seeing how stuff like the dust2 long a doors or CT balcony on train can be positive features for map balance. And there's just no reason to have c confidence in their people since they've never made good competitive maps before. Yupp http://web.archive.org/web/20060219153832/www.counter-strike.net/maps.html Pretty much all the popular maps for both public and tournament play were made by independant/league map makers. Valve has no clue when it comes to maps. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
 Devs ussually suck at making maps as they are often limited to the vision of the game developed before it was even playable or just focus on showcasing features of the game (rocks). | ||
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Gingerninja
United Kingdom1339 Posts
On April 16 2012 06:39 Senx wrote: Yupp http://web.archive.org/web/20060219153832/www.counter-strike.net/maps.html Pretty much all the popular maps for both public and tournament play were made by independant/league map makers. Valve has no clue when it comes to maps. Damn forgot about some of those maps.. Wish they'd remade Siege for source, loved pubbing that map. Militia too, used to LAN that so often with my friends, sources Militia changes ruined it, there was no point going right out of CT spawn, because it took forever to get to the house and the T's would be set up. At least on 1.6 and the xbox version it was viable. | ||
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NeonFlare
Finland1307 Posts
I think the beta needs more players and some sort of matchmaking queue with friends or even for full teams, as currently you have to either search simultaneously and hope for best or keep connecting though friendlist as spots open it seems. | ||
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Chaoticsmurf
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On April 16 2012 06:52 NeonFlare wrote: With enough data backing the feedback, sufficient changes shouldn't be too hard to push through. I've enjoyed the beta so far, though sometimes I think the weapons act pretty silly despite of careful shooting and even crouching for more accuracy. I think the beta needs more players and some sort of matchmaking queue with friends or even for full teams, as currently you have to either search simultaneously and hope for best or keep connecting though friendlist as spots open it seems. Yeah. It makes you wonder how people put up with it in MOBAs for so long, because pugging just isn't fun most of the time. Most of the time it's either playing with bots or ragers. Also, if the Ts plant outside on Train and it's even numbers, I don't see how you can defuse it. That new balcony and the middle bombsite location changes so much about the game. There's just way too many angles to cover. Obviously dumb Ts will peak and die, but I mean competitively, it's SO easy to defend. Has anyone noticed a huge ping difference when the maps change? Like, I'm wondering if rather than having the same server change maps, they just connect everyone to a different server running the next map. I've continually noticed going from 50 ping on one map to 140 on another. | ||
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jumbotroN
Peru229 Posts
there has not been a nice update to date, I don't think valve is doing enough, also they are not getting feedback from cs professionals. they are in touch with a 1.6 caster tho (whisenhunt), lol. | ||
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Sazchu
Iceland489 Posts
The game itself is better than what I expected from videos and such but still a few things that need fixing and adjusting, so far it's not too bad. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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KAmaKAsa
Finland210 Posts
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Cytokinesis
Canada330 Posts
Doesn't help that every game I get into is filled with people who are completely awful. I've dominated every single game I've been in so far and teammates constantly accidentally shoot me (long after they should have too) and do overall retarded things. Either way I'm probably their target audience for it, and playing it now I'd buy it. I could see myself liking it more than source. | ||
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
still a cs go beta key is worth more than a dota2 beta key these days | ||
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NeonFlare
Finland1307 Posts
Even if it's Valvetime, I hope they take their time and tweak the game to be a better successor than what Source was for 1.6 Seeing how they've been updating Dota 2, it will be slow-ish but steady progress. | ||
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KAmaKAsa
Finland210 Posts
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Wazakhaq
Finland7 Posts
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byFd
Germany620 Posts
On April 17 2012 02:29 NeonFlare wrote: Today's peak player count has been 1560, so there aren't that many people in it yet. Considering how 1.6 and Source have been hanging in top 10 most played steam games pretty much all the time, if they manage to get GO there, they are in for some decent money. Even if it's Valvetime, I hope they take their time and tweak the game to be a better successor than what Source was for 1.6 Seeing how they've been updating Dota 2, it will be slow-ish but steady progress. according to twitter they have given out 50k keys. so only 1500ish people playing shows how much they like it i guess. i pretty much don't like it very much either. i just play some hours after each update to see what has changed. but if i play it right after 1.6 it feels very awful (probably because its very different but still, i found i kinda weird when i played it first and at that time i hadn't played 1.6 for like 1 year or even more...) | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
Like, if I could invite my clan mates and if it was possible to join games together (rather than following 1 person and praying a slot is open), we would play a ton. As it stands, I can only take so much solo bot practice on Office before quitting. You can imagine in SC2 the number of 2v2/3v3/4v4s being played would drop dramatically if you could only random queue for them. | ||
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