Counter-Strike: Global Offensive - Page 16

On August 13 2011 23:42 hugman wrote:


He's nostalgic, delusional and seems to worship Minh Le while blaming everything bad in the world on Valve. Le sigh

On August 13 2011 21:42 Neurosis wrote:


Alright let me list some things.

For one, character models are much bigger in source compared to 1.6. At the same time, levels also feel more enclosed. Corridors feel smaller, and just in general levels feel very wrong to someone that came from 1.6. The result of these two issues combined is an fps that makes aiming MUCH easier. That of course means the game takes far less skill, which in turn means getting really good is less rewarding, and then there is the issue of good players can't separate themselves because the skill cap is just too low.

Perhaps an even bigger issue is the abysmal recoil system. Each gun in 1.6 was incredibly nuisanced and it took a very very long time to master the recoil of most automatics. As an example, bursting with the ak was an incredibly powerful technique for getting headshots at mid to long range and it was completely different than bursting with, say, the m4. At the same time learning how to properly pull down on the crosshair when you wanted to spray with the ak also took a long time to master and once again, it was completely different than spraying with any other weapon. With source there is basically none of this depth involved with aiming. Headshots feel faceroll and often times highly random, grenades are too powerful, character models too big, game speed too slow....the list goes on and on.

You could sum my post up as an elitist that thinks Source doesn't take skill and you would be correct. That is the problem with Source, there is no depth or nuisance, at least compared to 1.6. I guess if you were to compare Source to something like call of doody then it probably seems like the most skillful and deep fps ever made. But, its just meh for someone that grew up playing the original CS religiously.

On August 13 2011 23:20 antelope591 wrote:


Pretty much sums it up...to someone who hasn't played cs these changes might not seem that huge but really the super lame nades/flashbangs in source was enough to ruin the game for me. Add in the other points and source was pretty much a complete dissapointment. I played cs for years in cal-m/p but quit source after about a month. Just not a fun game to play coming from 1.6

On August 13 2011 22:43 Quesa wrote:


To add to the point about levels, all of the 'realism' that's been added in CS:S detracts from the experience, at least in my view both as a player and a viewer. If you compare the difference between de_inferno, just about anyone who isn't in love with CS would tell you that CS:S is vastly superior, but it's just full of noise and clutter that changes everything about the game.

Even as a CAL-IM scrub, I enjoyed the good wallbanging kill on Dust2 in B halls or through the CT spawn floor (one of my favorite scrims I held a guy in place for a second and he stopped to type 'wow nice' after he got out of the stream). On Nuke I would spam everything; another favorite memory was being in an impossible 1-4 situation, being stuck in lower, hearing a footstep directly over head and killing the guy in a totally random spot. In CS:S I can't tell where anything is based on sound, and I virtually have to be looking at the bomb to hear the defuse noise. As you said, the list is endless..

On August 14 2011 00:56 mprs wrote:


The source engine isn't "7 years old". It is constantly updated and improved by Valve.

And I would have much preferred to see them go a different route for a 5v5 T vs CT game... maybe something closer to Tactical Ops. People who like 1.6 won't like any change. What is the point?

On August 14 2011 01:21 duckii wrote:


http://tactical-assault.com/

I hope it comes out some day :p
played TO since the first beta.

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On August 14 2011 01:21 duckii wrote:


http://tactical-assault.com/

I hope it comes out some day :p
played TO since the first beta.

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On August 14 2011 02:43 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:


tac ops always was the cool action packed version of CS. playd it a shitton back then (beta till some time after the weird retail version) , even was in quite decent clans playing in leagues sponsored by game magazines where the prize was having your name printed.


personally its interesting , a new multiplayer shooter without COD bullshit could be nice. other then that dont care much. CS never had much appeal to me(too slooow and often "lame") and CSS in addition to that also had a very weird feel to it.

but it was funny to read that"Cldrn: Will Global Offensive make CS go?" arcticle. that guy sure is one butthurt elitist. not that im that much different when it comes to broodwar vs all other rts(including sc2) or quake vs newschool shit fps, still quite funny.

On August 14 2011 01:12 Cedstick wrote:
Oh, do tell us how CSS killed the FPS. Please, do. I'd love to hear it.

On August 14 2011 04:51 usernamegl wrote:

He said PC FPS. It definitely hurt the CS scene by splitting the community.

On August 14 2011 04:57 maartendq wrote:

COD? Battlefield? Those game ring a bell?

On August 14 2011 04:57 maartendq wrote:

COD? Battlefield? Those game ring a bell?

On August 14 2011 07:24 Klogon wrote:


Compared to what CS used to be, those are nothing.

On August 14 2011 08:33 Zombo Joe wrote:
I don't understand complaining about the recoil system in CS:S when all the guns have at least 5 times more recoil than the of guns in modern FPS's lol.

It just seems like a bitter divide between brothers in the case of 1.6 vs Source.

On August 14 2011 08:33 Zombo Joe wrote:
I don't understand complaining about the recoil system in CS:S when all the guns have at least 5 times more recoil than the of guns in modern FPS's lol.

It just seems like a bitter divide between brothers in the case of 1.6 vs Source.

On August 14 2011 05:21 samd wrote:


what do those have to do with the CS community?

On August 14 2011 07:24 Klogon wrote:


Compared to what CS used to be, those are nothing.