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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 08 2014 00:54 GMT
#17181
Do you know if life leech spell gem gains life considerable to what you would gain from cybil's paw ?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 01:01:15
December 08 2014 00:56 GMT
#17182
On December 08 2014 09:54 travis wrote:
Do you know if life leech spell gem gains life considerable to what you would gain from cybil's paw ?

I don't know as I didn't try, but I would assume dual wielding cybil's paw is superior as that's probably quite insane. Still, with enough damage life leech spell gem with incinerate is enough. However, without vaal pact the life leech speed is limited at 20% of your maximum life per second, unlike LGoH.

Just checked a vid and think a single Cybil's is already superior to Life leech gem without vaal pact.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 08 2014 01:02 GMT
#17183
Does that sound necessary?

My plan is to use saffels, stone of lazwhatever its called, rainbowstrides, run tempest shield.. probably get up to like 60-65% spell block.

my concern is lightning thorns i guess. with that level of spell block and 70 lightning resist would I need vaal pact?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 01:17:12
December 08 2014 01:07 GMT
#17184
Good question, I don't think vaal pact is necessary but I have no experience.. I only know that Lightning Thorns wrecks fast attacking builds so I know it should be really dangerous. But I don't know HOW dangerous exactly it is for Incinerate.

But after checking threads, it looks like it might be necessary lol. People are just telling how they get rekt by LT and corrupting blood with incinerate. :D
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 08 2014 01:18 GMT
#17185
Well I had 3 builds planned, 2 of them go directly next to VP. So looks like my 3 builds are down to 2 lol
Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 01:29:31
December 08 2014 01:23 GMT
#17186
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 01:53:04
December 08 2014 01:33 GMT
#17187
Definitely Charisma imo, inner force is pretty far away for your build I guess and on the way to charisma there's 12% attack speed. Though it would surely be greatly helpful with that kind of build.

I personally would first go to the aura nodes near CI. Then you won't have very much nodes anymore, so probably go for Assasination.

Also I guess for dmg your auras should be Wrath, Anger, Herald of Ice and Herald of Thunder?
Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
December 08 2014 02:04 GMT
#17188
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 04:26:53
December 08 2014 04:24 GMT
#17189
I am looking into quill rain and elemental hit and i am so confused

so many people are saying quill rain halves elemental hit damage

but quill rain says "50% less weapon damage"

but elemental hit's elemental damage is not reliant on your weapon damage.. it's just flat added to it.

if quill rain halved that, then shouldn't it say "50% less attack damage" ?


Does it halve this or not?

People are really saying conflicting stuff. One guy said he tested it and it doesn't. But 75% of people say it does.
Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
December 08 2014 04:46 GMT
#17190
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 05:12:44
December 08 2014 05:01 GMT
#17191
I dunno I think it'd be good if I fired 15 times a second

(mainly it's for amusement though)
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 05:39:07
December 08 2014 05:35 GMT
#17192
Flameblast is not better than endurance charge discharging late game. The clear speed of discharging is much faster. You run up to a pack and hit enduring cry, pick warlords or flammability and its all dead. Flameblast u have to stand still and channel it up a bit. Discharge also does not have to focus a single point into mana regeneration/cast speed. You just pop 1 instant mana pot and quicksilver between each pack.
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
December 08 2014 05:38 GMT
#17193
travis quill rain from the text looks like it halves all damage done by weapons to me, I also think elemental hit is a bit bad because you don't get to pick or control whats hitting the enemies. You want to scale each of the elements in different ways. If i was going to play it I would go for a weapon with maximum attack speed and not care so much about inflicting the status ailments on the enemies. Same idea as ele buzzsaw or whatever.
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
December 08 2014 06:31 GMT
#17194
Quill Rain will give you 50% less damage, the only exception to this is the explosion off of Explosive Arrow because it doesn't count.
www.twitch.tv/varanice
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 08 2014 07:07 GMT
#17195
I'm going with a blazing pulser. I remembered why I hate melee builds when I did one in the 1 week and gave up at lvl 53. Or any build that needs a good weapon. Have your passives and gems? Too bad you do shit damage because you have no weapon.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 07:50:21
December 08 2014 07:42 GMT
#17196
On December 08 2014 09:17 HolydaKing wrote:
The way you played the discharger in the maps (your vids) surely works (enduring cry and then power charges from curse), but if you play against durable bosses you have no good way to generate charges if you don't outright kiill them.

Travis those builds might indeed die out if block gets nerfed while cybils remain untouched. Or at least their potential goes down by a lot. LGoH (except the one from Cybils) only works if something hits with ATTACKS, doesn't work with spells (unless my brain currently remembers wrong, 2 months no PoE ^^). Same thing for Poacher's mark curse, doesn't work with spells. But Warlord's mark (it's life leech however) does and helps quite a lot.

Well I did Temple Piety, Tort chamber and some other 71+ maps bosses. For me it is all charge-management and if someone really doesn't want to die I either gemswap my discharge with FB or just cast my FB+lifeleech+conc+firepen.

On December 08 2014 14:35 CrownRoyal wrote:
Flameblast is not better than endurance charge discharging late game. The clear speed of discharging is much faster. You run up to a pack and hit enduring cry, pick warlords or flammability and its all dead. Flameblast u have to stand still and channel it up a bit. Discharge also does not have to focus a single point into mana regeneration/cast speed. You just pop 1 instant mana pot and quicksilver between each pack.

Flameblast IS better than pure endurance charge discharger not only in burst damage but also in clear speed. The reason why I even went double-element was that I wanted to have approximatly the same impact damage as flameblast.
From my excel sheet(passive dmg% nodes & equipdmg% included - excluding crits):
flameblast stage 10 damage: 21311
Discharge w/ 10 charges damage : 20365

But that being said, I'm guessing flameblast & arc nerf incoming
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
December 08 2014 08:01 GMT
#17197
"In other news, we'll be providing an updated copy of the preliminary 1.3.0 Passive Skill Tree data to tools authors tomorrow. Expect to see their tools updated then hopefully. Among other changes, there have been adjustments to the Duelist/Marauder area based on your feedback. Thanks!"
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 08:05:59
December 08 2014 08:05 GMT
#17198
On December 08 2014 17:01 Probemicro wrote:
"In other news, we'll be providing an updated copy of the preliminary 1.3.0 Passive Skill Tree data to tools authors tomorrow. Expect to see their tools updated then hopefully. Among other changes, there have been adjustments to the Duelist/Marauder area based on your feedback. Thanks!"

I just love GGG. Sometimes I get a spontanous nerderrection thinking about them.
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
December 08 2014 10:19 GMT
#17199
Please have mercy on Arc GGG Secret Police.

So nice to use on high ping compared to everything else.
~
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 11:10:13
December 08 2014 11:06 GMT
#17200
On December 08 2014 19:19 Lachrymose wrote:
Please have mercy on Arc GGG Secret Police.

So nice to use on high ping compared to everything else.


it would be hilarious

arc is already shit for levelling and its not the greatest damaging spell in endgame either
(not counting mjolnir)
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