• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:23
CEST 21:23
KST 04:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator2[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30[ASL19] Ro4 Recap : The Peak15DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Info & Preview21herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2025)18
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 19-25): Hindsight is 20/20?0DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Official Replay Pack7[BSL20] RO20 Group Stage2EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1)9Weekly Cups (May 12-18): Clem sweeps WardiTV May3
StarCraft 2
General
DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Official Replay Pack Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2025) DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Info & Preview RankedFTW - Site With Ladder Rankings Over Time
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO12 - Group A DreamHack Dallas 2025 SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat
Brood War
General
Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? GG Lan Party Bulgaria (Live in about 3 hours) BW General Discussion BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
[BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET [ASL19] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL19] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Yes Sir! How Commanding Impr…
TrAiDoS
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 14249 users

Path of Exile - Page 858

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 856 857 858 859 860 1744 Next
Guild invites: Message any of EvoSenseOfPride, ScionViableORly, neophyteWham, TheTouchOfGOLD in game
OR
post your character name in the thread and ask for an invite
Private league ladder (finished): https://www.pathofexile.com/private-leagues/league/TeamLiquid and friends
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-06 12:37:12
December 06 2014 12:34 GMT
#17141
For axe+sword 2h I'd like some / a lot dexterity mixed in (or flat accuracy... % only helps so much if you don't have much base accuracy), as it feels wrong going RT with them. For mace I have no idea... I never liked stun too much, except for trash. With a LOT of dmg it also works on bosses, but it's meh at best since PoE in its current state is all about DPS imo. Survivability wise (especially needed in HC I guess) it helps, but it won't safe you from insane dmg if you don't stun.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-06 12:51:37
December 06 2014 12:50 GMT
#17142
On December 06 2014 21:34 HolydaKing wrote:
For axe+sword 2h I'd like some / a lot dexterity mixed in (or flat accuracy... % only helps so much if you don't have much base accuracy), as it feels wrong going RT with them. For mace I have no idea... I never liked stun too much, except for trash. With a LOT of dmg it also works on bosses, but it's meh at best since PoE in its current state is all about DPS imo. Survivability wise (especially needed in HC I guess) it helps, but it won't safe you from insane dmg if you don't stun.

With that I have to strongly disagree. My Pillar Groundslammer(meaning less stun than mace-2h) was always welcomed by piety/vaal MFer because I managed to almost perm-stun vaal and piety with heavy strike. That worked also on Mapbosses. (hint: dont use multistrike on heavystrike ...).

I would love to see some buff in regards stun to make it easier on high hp targets, like an implicit that gives you a flat chance to stun (since with maces u want to go RT the base 5% crit->stun is taken away). Or increase damage on stunned targets, kinda like a "crit multi"
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-06 13:21:54
December 06 2014 13:00 GMT
#17143
Well my opinion (on the mace stun) was just based on solo play. And perma stunning those is no problem if you play solo, I dunno how it works in parties. With stun gem you can almost perma stun most map bosses.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8481 Posts
December 06 2014 13:54 GMT
#17144
On December 06 2014 22:00 HolydaKing wrote:
Well my opinion (on the mace stun) was just based on solo play. And perma stunning those is no problem if you play solo, I dunno how it works in parties. With stun gem you can almost perma stun most map bosses.


Should work the same in parties because everything that is based on a percentage of the monster-hp should be based on the hp the monsters have in a one man party. Calculation for stun, freeze etc. should always take the one-man hp, even in a 6 man party.

I say "should" because I'm usually wrong about mechanics. -.-'
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
December 06 2014 14:28 GMT
#17145
On December 06 2014 22:54 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2014 22:00 HolydaKing wrote:
Well my opinion (on the mace stun) was just based on solo play. And perma stunning those is no problem if you play solo, I dunno how it works in parties. With stun gem you can almost perma stun most map bosses.


Should work the same in parties because everything that is based on a percentage of the monster-hp should be based on the hp the monsters have in a one man party. Calculation for stun, freeze etc. should always take the one-man hp, even in a 6 man party.

I say "should" because I'm usually wrong about mechanics. -.-'


That's correct
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 06 2014 17:39 GMT
#17146
do you guys think it'd be possible to build a guy that uses elemental hit, proliferation, incredibly fast attack speed, the 5% chance to ignite/shock/freeze nodes, and all 3 heralds?

I feel like I would get proliferations off, things would die, all of them would explode heralds out which would proliferate more



yes/no ?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 06 2014 17:47 GMT
#17147
On December 07 2014 02:39 travis wrote:
do you guys think it'd be possible to build a guy that uses elemental hit, proliferation, incredibly fast attack speed, the 5% chance to ignite/shock/freeze nodes, and all 3 heralds?

I feel like I would get proliferations off, things would die, all of them would explode heralds out which would proliferate more



yes/no ?

fun idea, but I wonder if that would work well... because fast attack speed means low ignite dmg, short shock duration and very short freeze duration.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-06 18:06:32
December 06 2014 18:06 GMT
#17148
I am going to try it anyways!

My primary concern is actually paying the mana cost for supported elemental hit though.. if I am using it really fast it's going to be expensive... and if I run blood magic gem then I have to use life leech. what to do what to do

I was going to just try to use gear and phy life leech nodes with pots and regen to support my life. I wonder if with righteous decree and some mana leech on gear I could support it??
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
December 06 2014 18:31 GMT
#17149
you can't prolif burns onto frozen targets
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
December 06 2014 18:32 GMT
#17150
--- Nuked ---
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 06 2014 19:00 GMT
#17151
On December 07 2014 03:31 CrownRoyal wrote:
you can't prolif burns onto frozen targets



oh whaaaat. mmm really?
are you sure?
I thought burn just won't proliferate off a shattered corpse.

also does a corpse shatter if it is frozen and burns to death?
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8481 Posts
December 06 2014 20:23 GMT
#17152
On December 07 2014 04:00 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 03:31 CrownRoyal wrote:
you can't prolif burns onto frozen targets



oh whaaaat. mmm really?
are you sure?
I thought burn just won't proliferate off a shattered corpse.

also does a corpse shatter if it is frozen and burns to death?


Since you are using Herald of Fire to ignite, killing an enemy that is frozen won't do anything because it shatters.

No idea for your second question.


For your general idea: I think ultra high attack speed is kind of necessary. But at the same time that means your proliferations will do next to nothing. Especially ignite needs large hits to be effective. The other two probably work well without high hits provided that you exceed the dmg treshold to apply them at all.

HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 06 2014 20:34 GMT
#17153
Herald of fire with elemental hit is a very bad idea anyway as said before. Since you don't really do physical damage.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8481 Posts
December 06 2014 21:14 GMT
#17154
On December 07 2014 05:34 HolydaKing wrote:
Herald of fire with elemental hit is a very bad idea anyway as said before. Since you don't really do physical damage.


Well it's "only" 15 %. If he only runs it for the ignite it doesn't really matter.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 06 2014 21:20 GMT
#17155
On December 07 2014 06:14 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 05:34 HolydaKing wrote:
Herald of fire with elemental hit is a very bad idea anyway as said before. Since you don't really do physical damage.


Well it's "only" 15 %. If he only runs it for the ignite it doesn't really matter.

Oh yeah, I somehow thought that it also influences the ignite dmg... turns out I didn't play PoE for a too long time.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8481 Posts
December 06 2014 22:44 GMT
#17156
Short mechanics question: Does a projectile with 100% pierce chance pierce every enemy it hits until it expires?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 06 2014 22:55 GMT
#17157
On December 07 2014 07:44 Miragee wrote:
Short mechanics question: Does a projectile with 100% pierce chance pierce every enemy it hits until it expires?

Almost 100% certain it does and I wouldn't know why it not.
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
December 06 2014 23:13 GMT
#17158
On December 07 2014 07:44 Miragee wrote:
Short mechanics question: Does a projectile with 100% pierce chance pierce every enemy it hits until it expires?

yes
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
December 06 2014 23:18 GMT
#17159
On December 07 2014 04:00 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 03:31 CrownRoyal wrote:
you can't prolif burns onto frozen targets



oh whaaaat. mmm really?
are you sure?
I thought burn just won't proliferate off a shattered corpse.

also does a corpse shatter if it is frozen and burns to death?


I think you're right actually, when a monster shatters it does not leave a corpse and the corpse is what does the prolifing.

I just remember playing a discharger and hating it when i would freeze things because there would be no burn which was the majority of the dmg. It might be less annoying with your variant.
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8481 Posts
December 06 2014 23:22 GMT
#17160
Thanks for the confirmation. I assumed so but I guessed wrong in the past so I thought I would rather ask before doing something stupid.
Prev 1 856 857 858 859 860 1744 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL: GosuLeague
19:00
RO16 SWISS - Round 3
Semih vs cavapoo
Hejek vs TousaN
ZZZero.O59
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 621
UpATreeSC 132
NeuroSwarm 50
JuggernautJason35
MindelVK 32
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 1084
BeSt 625
firebathero 284
Dewaltoss 129
ZZZero.O 59
BRAT_OK 51
Movie 21
Dota 2
Gorgc10105
qojqva2546
Dendi1936
Counter-Strike
fl0m1510
Stewie2K933
Other Games
Grubby3282
ceh9994
Beastyqt890
TKL 97
ToD78
KnowMe71
Trikslyr67
QueenE61
mouzStarbuck24
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 38
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 23 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 220
• StrangeGG 70
• 3DClanTV 30
• Reevou 5
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3224
• masondota2883
• WagamamaTV155
• Ler124
League of Legends
• Nemesis6255
• TFBlade2164
• Jankos1173
Other Games
• imaqtpie1876
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
4h 37m
GSL Code S
14h 7m
Cure vs Zoun
Solar vs Creator
The PondCast
14h 37m
Road to EWC
14h 37m
Online Event
19h 37m
Clem vs ShoWTimE
herO vs MaxPax
HupCup
19h 37m
Road to EWC
20h 37m
Road to EWC
1d 2h
GSL Code S
1d 14h
GuMiho vs Bunny
ByuN vs SHIN
Road to EWC
1d 14h
[ Show More ]
Online Event
1d 17h
Road to EWC
1d 20h
Road to EWC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Road to EWC
2 days
Road to EWC
2 days
Road to EWC
3 days
Road to EWC
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Road to EWC
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Road to EWC
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 19
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
YSL S1
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
Heroes 10 EU
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025
ESL Pro League S21

Upcoming

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
2025 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.