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Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
September 16 2014 15:20 GMT
#16721
On September 17 2014 00:03 vndestiny wrote:
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On September 16 2014 22:25 ahswtini wrote:
On September 16 2014 18:43 ahswtini wrote:
So I heard that you should pick up all jewellry with near perfect implicit bonuses (like 15% gold rings). Why is this? Shouldn't they also be of high item level so that you can roll them to have good affixes?

Can anyone help?

Because there's another way of farming if you have the patience, and that is alc-ing rings /amulet /belt and hope that in the hundreds of them, a few might be worth exalts, and some will worth a few chaos in addition. Choosing high implicit base means you don't need blessed orbs in addition to make those 3-5c rings look decent. Drawback is ofc that you need spare chaos in the first place, and patience to sell those ok-ish ones, since the big ticket alc may never comes at all.


And yes, iLvl is important when you are alching things since top tier mods only roll on high iLvl items.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
September 16 2014 15:41 GMT
#16722
So if I'm at normal act 2, I should just vendor all of those rings, even with high implicits?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
September 16 2014 15:45 GMT
#16723
I personally wouldn't bother with them. Then again I rarely self-craft or wheel-and-deal. Only when it's completely necessary. Like the Searing Touch I got yesterday for a steal, ez life.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
September 16 2014 15:45 GMT
#16724
On September 17 2014 00:41 ahswtini wrote:
So if I'm at normal act 2, I should just vendor all of those rings, even with high implicits?


absolutely. ilvl means everything when alching jewelry especially.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
September 16 2014 15:48 GMT
#16725
Although is it worth saving sapphire rings of any level, since they can be chanced into a dream fragments?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
September 16 2014 15:51 GMT
#16726
On September 17 2014 00:16 vndestiny wrote:
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On September 16 2014 22:52 solidbebe wrote:
How do you build a good map pool? I've been running a ton of 66, 67, 68 all with at least 30% quantity but my returns are awful it seems. I have around
66 15
67 8
68 6
69 6
70 3
71 1
At how many maps should I move up to a new tier?


This one is tough due to the extremely random map RNG. The easiest way to have a good pool is willing invest to buy a big pool of a certain tier (73, 74, 75, 76 which ever you like), then roll from there.

If you really don't want to buy map then ofc normal progression is fine, often you can move up if you have 8-12 map of that tier. Though if you're lucky, it will be a smooth and quick slope up. If you're unlucky, like 80% of ppl out there, you will seem to stuck in the low 70s forever
Ofc nothing stays forever, but it would take very long. I would consider myself lucky last league in map luck and still took 1 lvl 82, 1 lvl 84, 1 lvl 91 to reach that mythical 77-78 pool w/o buying map at all.

Don't think you have that many maps to move up tbh. Hypothetically speaking a dried-streak which is not so unlikely will wipe the 69 tier since there are only 6.


Thx for the advice guys. I actually just found a carto box and zana in a map so I have 12 69 and even more of the lower tiers now haha. Looks like im running 69's for a while now.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
September 16 2014 16:16 GMT
#16727
On September 16 2014 18:45 Miragee wrote:
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On September 16 2014 18:00 bluQ wrote:
The last State of Exile got me more excited about doing some lowlvl pvping.
Anyone here who can help me out with knowledge and some practice?

my current idea is Pillar of Caged God, Glacial Hammer:
+ Show Spoiler +
Glacial Hammer
Weapon Ele
Added Fire
Added Cold Dmg
Melee Dmg on Full

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUAhMREcop0D1SpaBRNBLOiAPAfMokCcXflV-LsODrYGjhN2KeEjHaQVcAaWfOsqnKpfNn3MuoY-OsUcQ48OlIyfjOHHb4=

Pillar
Meginord
Fox Shade
Wanderlust
Goldrim

phys ring
phys ring
phys amy
phys gloves


Why did you go for Irongrip? Also: Sure that going the Phys dmg+WED route in the templar tree is superior to the str route when going PotCG? Each str node is like 18% phys dmg.

oh feeck posted wrong build xD was considering a faster proj spec throw if kiting is needed or i get out-kited.
but yea the build i guess is the thing that will change constantly once i get some insight into lowlvl pvp ^^ (meta etc)
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
September 16 2014 16:16 GMT
#16728
lv70 maps on ramp is only an alch each. Buying 10 isnt too bad of an investment.

I do feel the oos has gotten worse lately. Freezes and knockbacks then to create this one annoying "misplaced' mob time to time...
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 16:28:12
September 16 2014 16:25 GMT
#16729
Can't say Desync got worse for me, although I'm playing a char that doesn't get much desync either way. If you play Flameblast, you see a lot of desync. Same for any CI build (without Chayula) and ofc for the natural desyncers like Flickerstrike, Cyclone and all other movement skills.

But what bothers me a lot is Strongboxes. They have never made my FPS drop so low as they do right now. I had one with an exile and lots of spawns, which happened to drop my FPS to 0 for like 2 seconds. I only survived because I used lightning warp before.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
September 16 2014 16:34 GMT
#16730
Strongboxes are the worst right now. Even with a high end PC you will lag a few frames. I've debated leaving all strongbox with 'freeze on activate' even with proper pots to break it because I've had so many close calls due to frame lag when they open.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 16:44:35
September 16 2014 16:42 GMT
#16731
On September 17 2014 00:17 Eschaton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2014 22:52 solidbebe wrote:
How do you build a good map pool? I've been running a ton of 66, 67, 68 all with at least 30% quantity but my returns are awful it seems. I have around
66 15
67 8
68 6
69 6
70 3
71 1
At how many maps should I move up to a new tier?


Option 1: Run your highest maps, hope for the best, and use Zana dailies to supplement your map pool, its not too hard to get her to lvl 6 and start getting 71-74 drops from the dailies. Start alching around 71 to get higher quantity.

Option 2: Buy ~10 76 maps for an ex or so. That should be more than enough to keep you stable in the 74-76 range.


I regret self founding my maps. Should have just dropped an exa to buy some 74s and skip all the hassle.

On September 17 2014 01:16 Hikari wrote:
lv70 maps on ramp is only an alch each. Buying 10 isnt too bad of an investment.

I do feel the oos has gotten worse lately. Freezes and knockbacks then to create this one annoying "misplaced' mob time to time...


The amount of mobs that are on your screen, but not actually on your screen has increased substantially I think. If you aren't shift attacking then you'll cause yourself even more desync because the game will go chase them off screen.

On September 17 2014 00:48 ahswtini wrote:
Although is it worth saving sapphire rings of any level, since they can be chanced into a dream fragments?


I'd suggest trying to chance more expensive uniques like Shav or Pledge of Hands personally.
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bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 17:18:41
September 16 2014 17:12 GMT
#16732
3rd client-crash RIP in two days in my group. This time it hit me. Really sucks. And sucks my motivation out. Grrr.
Well I guess more time for ArcheAge ...
Don't watch if you don't have strong nerves(sadly no sound cause was watchin WCS):
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http://www.twitch.tv/bluquh/c/5133308
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
September 16 2014 17:25 GMT
#16733
On September 17 2014 00:48 ahswtini wrote:
Although is it worth saving sapphire rings of any level, since they can be chanced into a dream fragments?


As far as I know the chance to get a unique by chancing is the same for each unique. So it is better to chance expensive uniques instead of lowish ones. Dream Fragments is only like 1-2ex compared to 15-30ex of other uniques.

On September 17 2014 01:16 bluQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2014 18:45 Miragee wrote:
On September 16 2014 18:00 bluQ wrote:
The last State of Exile got me more excited about doing some lowlvl pvping.
Anyone here who can help me out with knowledge and some practice?

my current idea is Pillar of Caged God, Glacial Hammer:
+ Show Spoiler +
Glacial Hammer
Weapon Ele
Added Fire
Added Cold Dmg
Melee Dmg on Full

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUAhMREcop0D1SpaBRNBLOiAPAfMokCcXflV-LsODrYGjhN2KeEjHaQVcAaWfOsqnKpfNn3MuoY-OsUcQ48OlIyfjOHHb4=

Pillar
Meginord
Fox Shade
Wanderlust
Goldrim

phys ring
phys ring
phys amy
phys gloves


Why did you go for Irongrip? Also: Sure that going the Phys dmg+WED route in the templar tree is superior to the str route when going PotCG? Each str node is like 18% phys dmg.

oh feeck posted wrong build xD was considering a faster proj spec throw if kiting is needed or i get out-kited.
but yea the build i guess is the thing that will change constantly once i get some insight into lowlvl pvp ^^ (meta etc)


Hm, ST seems kinda lackluster for me at that level, both in dmg and because you can easily dodge it.

On September 17 2014 01:42 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:


Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 01:16 Hikari wrote:
lv70 maps on ramp is only an alch each. Buying 10 isnt too bad of an investment.

I do feel the oos has gotten worse lately. Freezes and knockbacks then to create this one annoying "misplaced' mob time to time...


The amount of mobs that are on your screen, but not actually on your screen has increased substantially I think. If you aren't shift attacking then you'll cause yourself even more desync because the game will go chase them off screen.


Same experience here. I have often have mobs on my screen that aren't really there. Like every group.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 16 2014 17:53 GMT
#16734
Unless they changed it, the chance to chance a unique (lol) isn't the same for every unique. It depends on the rarity tier. A common unique is easier to chance than a uncommon one and a rare one.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
September 16 2014 17:57 GMT
#16735
I guess what he's saying is, save it for the items where you can only chance one type of unique? Like Kaom's?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
September 16 2014 18:08 GMT
#16736
He's saying save your Chance Orbs for the Uniques that are ridiculously expensive. Kaom's, Mjolner, Shavs, whatever is the most expensive unique(s) save those bases and chance them.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 16 2014 18:11 GMT
#16737
On September 17 2014 02:57 ahswtini wrote:
I guess what he's saying is, save it for the items where you can only chance one type of unique? Like Kaom's?

For Shavronne u can get either Infernal Mantle or Shavronne, but it doesn't matter really. GGG said that and I believe it. The maker of Infernal Mantle got flamed heavily for that it has the same base type (which the maker didn't even want, but GGG still made it so). But GGG defended him by saying it doesn't reduce the chance. Anyway, Infernal Mantle is less rare and will get chanced succesfully much more often, so people get mad at it. :D
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 16 2014 18:20 GMT
#16738
If I plan on running 2 curses for flame totems, which 2 should I be running? Ele Weakness + Flammability? or Ele Weakness + Proj Weakness?
liftlift > tsm
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 16 2014 18:47 GMT
#16739
Most definitely Elemental Weakness + Flammability. Reducing resistances is OP. Plus knockback isnt really good on Flame Totem as you want the enemies to stay close to it because of the shotgunning.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 18:57:47
September 16 2014 18:56 GMT
#16740
does flame totem scale better into maps than searing bond? I wonder how different the skill trees would look. I'm a dual searing bond build atm with searing touch and it's kinda boring. I'm only lv70 and searing is ~6,000 dps on tool tip. I have EE and Flammability to boost damage.


or are there any feasible minor re-rolls I can do without having to level a brand new character?
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