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or just a prove of PoE players having too much time.
Ofc inspired by etups 100 ding hideout party
Ofc inspired by etups 100 ding hideout party
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
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incinerate_
172 Posts
On September 15 2014 03:12 HolydaKing wrote: Looks like a logout macro, insanely fast. I would use that too, but as it's multiple actions, it's not legal. Logout macros are actually allowed -- see here(reddit link). I guess because it is almost the same as pressing alt+f4 (with the added benefit that you don't need to restart PoE which takes ages...). | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On September 15 2014 03:41 incinerate_ wrote: Logout macros are actually allowed -- see here(reddit link). I guess because it is almost the same as pressing alt+f4 (with the added benefit that you don't need to restart PoE which takes ages...). It was stated at several locations (concerning multiboxing, macroing etc.) that GGG doesn't want us to sent more than one command to the server. That said, a logout macro that opens up the ESC-Menu, positions the curoser over the "Exit to login" and then does a mouse-down command essential only sends ONE command to server: "exit to login". Making the scrip use potions in before hands is illegal; more than one command send to server. Trade-Chat-Spam scripts; sending more than one command -> illegal. so on and forth. | ||
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Miragee
8620 Posts
On September 15 2014 03:49 bluQ wrote: It was stated at several locations (concerning multiboxing, macroing etc.) that GGG doesn't want us to sent more than one command to the server. That said, a logout macro that opens up the ESC-Menu, positions the curoser over the "Exit to login" and then does a mouse-down command essential only sends ONE command to server: "exit to login". Making the scrip use potions in before hands is illegal; more than one command send to server. Trade-Chat-Spam scripts; sending more than one command -> illegal. so on and forth. On the most recent podcast they discussed this topic. It's not allowed, GGG doesn't want it and in the future will try to detect and punish it (same goes for the pot macro). I don't know if raiz uses it, he doesn't seem to be the kind of guy, but what do I know about random streamers in the internet. It was fast, yes, but I think it's possible to do the same manually. Just not as consistent if it happens more often. //btw. if someone wants to give me Solaris WP merciless, that would be nice. I'm currently online with PantsDontGiveDPS. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
Kinda unclear, since Chris posted 6 months ago that it is allowed. If he changed his opinion, then I will not try it now. | ||
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Miragee
8620 Posts
On September 15 2014 04:23 HolydaKing wrote: Hmm... so it's not allowed? My alt f4 is bugging sometimes t_T.... nothing happens when I do it. I tried the log out macro with AHK and it worked perfectly. Perhaps same goes for Alt F4 with AHK, lol. Have yet to have even a single life saving quitting, I always died when trying. xD Kinda unclear, since Chris posted 6 months ago that it is allowed. If he changed his opinion, then I will not try it now. I never use Alt+F4. First of, it doesn't always work in PoE like you mentioned. Also it's much slower to use (the keys are far from each other and in a bad degree to each other). I always esc+log out (not char selection, that leaves you in the game longer). I am not really a fan of using log outs as a last resort when you get smashed instantly. I rather use flask and run at the same time. I use log out preemptive. When I think shit (aka things I can't control anymore) is going to happen soon I just log or use a portal, depending on the situation. //edit: just saw this On September 15 2014 03:32 bluQ wrote: Tornado Shot is truly OP http://www.twitch.tv/bluquh/c/5121785 + Show Spoiler + or just a prove of PoE players having too much time. Ofc inspired by etups 100 ding hideout party That's hilarious, thanks. :D | ||
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incinerate_
172 Posts
On September 15 2014 04:05 Miragee wrote: On the most recent podcast they discussed this topic. It's not allowed, GGG doesn't want it and in the future will try to detect and punish it (same goes for the pot macro). I don't know if raiz uses it, he doesn't seem to be the kind of guy, but what do I know about random streamers in the internet. It was fast, yes, but I think it's possible to do the same manually. Just not as consistent if it happens more often. //btw. if someone wants to give me Solaris WP merciless, that would be nice. I'm currently online with PantsDontGiveDPS. So the relevant podcast is here (timestamp about 1:51:45). As far as I understand it the discussion was specifically about a script which automatically uses potions if you drop below a certain threshold of your life total. Apparently GGG can now detect usage of this particular script and may punish people for using it. As far as I see it this is in line with what GGG has previously stated that is allowed: Scripts that execute one command and that are not automated or based on a timer. I.e. logout macros should (still) be fine. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On September 15 2014 04:34 Miragee wrote: I never use Alt+F4. First of, it doesn't always work in PoE like you mentioned. Also it's much slower to use (the keys are far from each other and in a bad degree to each other). I always esc+log out (not char selection, that leaves you in the game longer). I am not really a fan of using log outs as a last resort when you get smashed instantly. I rather use flask and run at the same time. I use log out preemptive. When I think shit (aka things I can't control anymore) is going to happen soon I just log or use a portal, depending on the situation. I always altF4 because running away can result in you getting stuck and dying anyway. As long as you press the button before you RIP you'll survive with the log out. | ||
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Frankenberry
Denmark302 Posts
On September 14 2014 20:19 HolydaKing wrote: Uh, your build is missing 3 very good critical nodes... The ones at Shadow. They're better than the Heartseeker nodes (by far). I would ditch the 3 accuracy&crit nodes for them, as getting high accuracy is easy. Still this is a very squishy build, but you said so and he wanted one so that's fine I guess. You will need to be very careful of physical spells like from Undying Evangelists or Glacial Cascade from frogs or Hailrake. You are totally right. I actually of course use Assasination myself. I simply forgot about those  | ||
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Miragee
8620 Posts
On September 15 2014 04:57 incinerate_ wrote: So the relevant podcast is here (timestamp about 1:51:45). As far as I understand it the discussion was specifically about a script which automatically uses potions if you drop below a certain threshold of your life total. Apparently GGG can now detect usage of this particular script and may punish people for using it. As far as I see it this is in line with what GGG has previously stated that is allowed: Scripts that execute one command and that are not automated or based on a timer. I.e. logout macros should (still) be fine. They say somewhere that this also applies to logout when the logout makro does mutiple actions for you. Like Alt+F4 mekro is fine, while esc-->placing mouse cursor over exit-->click is not. On September 15 2014 05:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: I always altF4 because running away can result in you getting stuck and dying anyway. As long as you press the button before you RIP you'll survive with the log out. I avoid situations where I might get stuck and run as said above.  I'm talking about different situations, like spike dmg from a single source I didn't expect. I can't log out in time in those situations because of panic/missclicks/slow reaction idk. Panic mashing pots and running have helped me a lot more. But I think that's personal preference. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On September 15 2014 03:49 bluQ wrote: It was stated at several locations (concerning multiboxing, macroing etc.) that GGG doesn't want us to sent more than one command to the server. That said, a logout macro that opens up the ESC-Menu, positions the curoser over the "Exit to login" and then does a mouse-down command essential only sends ONE command to server: "exit to login". Making the scrip use potions in before hands is illegal; more than one command send to server. Trade-Chat-Spam scripts; sending more than one command -> illegal. so on and forth. This. A macro doing Alt+F4 is completely legit (obviously) and is considered the fastest way to disconnect and have your character safe. A macro that mouses over "Exit to log in screen" is also completely fine since it essentially does the same as Alt+F4, albeit slightly slower depending on your ping. The slowest way to exit is "Exit to character selection" since it's basically doubles your ping+some latency between servers. Any script that e.g. uses multiple potions on a button press (or uses them before logging out) is not fine. Sources: Chris+other devs over reddit. | ||
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hydrogg
United States377 Posts
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Onekobold
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Lachrymose
Australia1928 Posts
On September 15 2014 07:51 Miragee wrote: They say somewhere that this also applies to logout when the logout makro does mutiple actions for you. Like Alt+F4 mekro is fine, while esc-->placing mouse cursor over exit-->click is not. I would presume 'actions' means interacting with the server/doing something/commands, not client side things. If actions were client side you couldn't even have an /oos macro. An exit macro is fine as long as that is all it does because it remains in line with Alt+F4. It's your exit macro using potions that makes it against the rules. | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On September 15 2014 15:09 hydrogg wrote: They need to just disallow all scripts and add a hotkey that exits you from the game. -_- You can't prevent people from using macros. Macros are in most cases non-detectable. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
That's about the exchange on Standard iirc. Unreal. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On September 16 2014 01:40 crms wrote: How the hell did people convince themselves in Beyond the ratio is 32:1 (chaos:exalt)? That's about the exchange on Standard iirc. Unreal. It is going to keep going up. Nobody is using chaos to roll maps so they're just going to inflate more and more. Maybe they've started using chaos since they've been around 32 for a few days now. | ||
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Yomi.Doom
United States383 Posts
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Miragee
8620 Posts
On September 16 2014 04:17 Yomi.Doom wrote: They were pretty stable at around 26-28 most of last week and the week before. These last few days though they've seem to started rising in price again. I hear the rampage exchange rate is like 40+:1, real jokes I thought in Ambush it was like that because of Currency boxes and the fact that everyone just ran blue maps because of cartographer's. But it seems that Zana is OP in that regard. Only HC remains with like 15-20c per exalt. But almost nobody is trading there anyways. | ||
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hydrogg
United States377 Posts
On September 15 2014 22:57 bluQ wrote: You can't prevent people from using macros. Macros are in most cases non-detectable. It's less to prevent people but to reduce the confusing rules. If the macros are already in game, they can just say these are okay, the others are not. | ||
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