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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 16 2014 19:00 GMT
#16741
On September 17 2014 03:47 HolydaKing wrote:
Most definitely Elemental Weakness + Flammability. Reducing resistances is OP. Plus knockback isnt really good on Flame Totem as you want the enemies to stay close to it because of the shotgunning.

I was thinking flamm+ele weakness, would be best, but I do like projectile weakness if the monsters are hitting pretty hard.
liftlift > tsm
Awsomesawce
Profile Joined September 2014
1 Post
September 16 2014 19:01 GMT
#16742
I'm building an SRS Summoner Scion (say that 5 times fast) with IR/MoM/EB for Beyond. It's meant to be tanky enough to not get one shot, but enough damage to waste bosses with Vaal Haste and Spell echo. SRS is extremely powerful, almost approaching OP-ness, and I've always wanted to build one. The Raging Spirits benefit from damage auras, and are pretty tanky. Here's the build I came up with

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgAACGf56Bg8vSeTOtP7gseofVqRaqwo-uvuU1JFnZrguJOnCBVQGmydrqas42o26SSqFm-PRpuh99fMvKrEhWBNuayYOlhVxoPbBAdMs2vb7IosnALjSbIHpR_HK3htGS2LCPTAVGpDvOprF5UgwfPbC4IeSsgqTT8nFSAs6Vuv3Q1KfYd2Z6D8xRjbhTJ08SmlTirPMlltX5huqv4Ktz5Bh9i9NZK18lb67g6jio19I_ZNkg==
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 19:07:41
September 16 2014 19:07 GMT
#16743
On September 17 2014 04:00 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 03:47 HolydaKing wrote:
Most definitely Elemental Weakness + Flammability. Reducing resistances is OP. Plus knockback isnt really good on Flame Totem as you want the enemies to stay close to it because of the shotgunning.

I was thinking flamm+ele weakness, would be best, but I do like projectile weakness if the monsters are hitting pretty hard.

Well you can switch it for bosses or when u think it's needed.

Also, I'm not a fan of Searing bond but I can't imagine to scale as well as Flame Totem with GMP does. However, the new OP totem build seems to be Shockwave Totem.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
September 16 2014 19:10 GMT
#16744
On September 17 2014 04:07 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 04:00 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 17 2014 03:47 HolydaKing wrote:
Most definitely Elemental Weakness + Flammability. Reducing resistances is OP. Plus knockback isnt really good on Flame Totem as you want the enemies to stay close to it because of the shotgunning.

I was thinking flamm+ele weakness, would be best, but I do like projectile weakness if the monsters are hitting pretty hard.

Well you can switch it for bosses or when u think it's needed.

Also, I'm not a fan of Searing bond but I can't imagine to scale as well as Flame Totem with GMP does. However, the new OP totem build seems to be Shockwave Totem.

yeah, SWT would take too much effort to re-roll though. Maybe I'll look into switching into Flame totem.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 20:04:27
September 16 2014 19:59 GMT
#16745
Let's see if Alt F4 saved me, lol. Graveyard Merveil seems a little too tough for me.... I should be safe, had 1,5k hp but you never know. xD I hate those moments when u don't know if you made it.

Whew, luckily still alive. Dying now would've probably made me quit for a while. But she was crazily stupid. That Ice Storm got me from 4,2k to 1,5k in 2 seconds.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8665 Posts
September 16 2014 20:23 GMT
#16746
On September 17 2014 04:59 HolydaKing wrote:
Let's see if Alt F4 saved me, lol. Graveyard Merveil seems a little too tough for me.... I should be safe, had 1,5k hp but you never know. xD I hate those moments when u don't know if you made it.

Whew, luckily still alive. Dying now would've probably made me quit for a while. But she was crazily stupid. That Ice Storm got me from 4,2k to 1,5k in 2 seconds.


Since the rebalanced fight, Merveil is just insane. Luckily I did her in standard for the first time and then decided to not touch her in Beyond for a while...

I'm curious how her fight plays out in races... Now that you can't just stack cold res and facetank her. I mean, when they finally announce the new race season ofc.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
September 16 2014 20:41 GMT
#16747
Necropolis merveil is even more insane. Used to be one of my favorite maps too.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 20:52:35
September 16 2014 20:50 GMT
#16748
On September 17 2014 05:23 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 04:59 HolydaKing wrote:
Let's see if Alt F4 saved me, lol. Graveyard Merveil seems a little too tough for me.... I should be safe, had 1,5k hp but you never know. xD I hate those moments when u don't know if you made it.

Whew, luckily still alive. Dying now would've probably made me quit for a while. But she was crazily stupid. That Ice Storm got me from 4,2k to 1,5k in 2 seconds.


Since the rebalanced fight, Merveil is just insane. Luckily I did her in standard for the first time and then decided to not touch her in Beyond for a while...

I'm curious how her fight plays out in races... Now that you can't just stack cold res and facetank her. I mean, when they finally announce the new race season ofc.

What, of course u can stack cold res and facetank her on normal, cruel and merciless act 1. It's even easier than before as she doesn't do her physical attacks anymore (or rarely). If you get 2 cold rings it's very easy on normal and with one you need some micro but it's still manageable.

Problem with racing might be that ppl go there without any rings or didn't get to buy one, but that shouldn't happen too often. If your RNG is that bad, then you can give up anyway. I think Brutus is gonna be more of a problem with crap equip, although I feel the desync for him got a lot better so it should be ok.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8665 Posts
September 16 2014 21:09 GMT
#16749
On September 17 2014 05:50 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:23 Miragee wrote:
On September 17 2014 04:59 HolydaKing wrote:
Let's see if Alt F4 saved me, lol. Graveyard Merveil seems a little too tough for me.... I should be safe, had 1,5k hp but you never know. xD I hate those moments when u don't know if you made it.

Whew, luckily still alive. Dying now would've probably made me quit for a while. But she was crazily stupid. That Ice Storm got me from 4,2k to 1,5k in 2 seconds.


Since the rebalanced fight, Merveil is just insane. Luckily I did her in standard for the first time and then decided to not touch her in Beyond for a while...

I'm curious how her fight plays out in races... Now that you can't just stack cold res and facetank her. I mean, when they finally announce the new race season ofc.

What, of course u can stack cold res and facetank her on normal, cruel and merciless act 1. It's even easier than before as she doesn't do her physical attacks anymore (or rarely). If you get 2 cold rings it's very easy on normal and with one you need some micro but it's still manageable.

Problem with racing might be that ppl go there without any rings or didn't get to buy one, but that shouldn't happen too often. If your RNG is that bad, then you can give up anyway. I think Brutus is gonna be more of a problem with crap equip, although I feel the desync for him got a lot better so it should be ok.


I didn't say you can't stack res in normal, lol. I was specifically talking about racing. And it's not unusual to just go to merveil with 1 cold ring. All my chars that did merveil normal since 1.2 had like 400-500 hp and 75 cold res and still took a considerable amount of dmg. I wasn't in danger ofc. But a race char is way more squishy. At merveil, most of the time you don't even have 200 hp and something like ~30 cold res on average. It adds that the second phase has huge amounts of AoE + all three kinds of ele attacks, not just cold. But we will see. That's why I said I'm curious. I didn't mean everything is set in stone.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 21:17:43
September 16 2014 21:14 GMT
#16750
Really? I'm pretty sure my HP were barely moving when doing her with max cold res at any difficulty... I can't think of any danger moment and I soloed her like 15 times by now because of ripping frequently on Beyond. :/

But yeah the 2nd phase could be a slight problem, though probably not so much for my Mara racing. So far I've always killed her really fast and the 2nd phase wasn't very long, and I expect that to be the same when racing as Mara. 2h Heavy Strike is sick dps with even semi good weapons.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3456 Posts
September 16 2014 23:16 GMT
#16751
On September 17 2014 05:50 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 05:23 Miragee wrote:
On September 17 2014 04:59 HolydaKing wrote:
Let's see if Alt F4 saved me, lol. Graveyard Merveil seems a little too tough for me.... I should be safe, had 1,5k hp but you never know. xD I hate those moments when u don't know if you made it.

Whew, luckily still alive. Dying now would've probably made me quit for a while. But she was crazily stupid. That Ice Storm got me from 4,2k to 1,5k in 2 seconds.


Since the rebalanced fight, Merveil is just insane. Luckily I did her in standard for the first time and then decided to not touch her in Beyond for a while...

I'm curious how her fight plays out in races... Now that you can't just stack cold res and facetank her. I mean, when they finally announce the new race season ofc.

What, of course u can stack cold res and facetank her on normal, cruel and merciless act 1. It's even easier than before as she doesn't do her physical attacks anymore (or rarely). If you get 2 cold rings it's very easy on normal and with one you need some micro but it's still manageable.

Problem with racing might be that ppl go there without any rings or didn't get to buy one, but that shouldn't happen too often. If your RNG is that bad, then you can give up anyway. I think Brutus is gonna be more of a problem with crap equip, although I feel the desync for him got a lot better so it should be ok.

Problem is that Merveil is as optimized of a fight as dom now, which I constantly have 4-5 fps while in the room. RIP vanilla race x_X
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
September 17 2014 00:33 GMT
#16752
I like P1 merveil: it is easy once you learn her attack pattern.

P2 is where I feel RNG can play quite a factor: she likes to teleport around too, and often surround herself/players inside a dozen of cyclones, thus I felt the nerf (to p2) was justifiable.

Honestly at this point I am more worried about brutus than Merveil. In the past I used a rather safe strat of hugging pillars while using stormcall to wither him down, now I have to manually dodge his harpoon hook and pray I do not get oos'ed at any point...
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
September 17 2014 00:47 GMT
#16753
On September 16 2014 19:24 oneofthem wrote:
is the desync better now


Fundamentally I don't believe anything has changed. Some superficial changes have been made, such as fewer obstacles in the redesigned Brutus & Merveil fights, but the specter of desync is there waiting to collect your tears.

One new extremely annoying desync situation has cropped up for me, which is that every single time you hit the rampage tier that stuns all enemies on screen, desync occurs such that all mobs on screen are shown in incorrect positions. Every. Time. You wouldn't notice this as an aoe build as much, but with dual strike its maddening as you have to actually be next to what you are trying to hit. Rampage is supposed to help you, not desync you. Rampage league.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3456 Posts
September 17 2014 02:00 GMT
#16754
Oh come on don't you love those animated bows :D?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 17 2014 05:22 GMT
#16755
On September 17 2014 03:11 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 02:57 ahswtini wrote:
I guess what he's saying is, save it for the items where you can only chance one type of unique? Like Kaom's?

For Shavronne u can get either Infernal Mantle or Shavronne, but it doesn't matter really. GGG said that and I believe it. The maker of Infernal Mantle got flamed heavily for that it has the same base type (which the maker didn't even want, but GGG still made it so). But GGG defended him by saying it doesn't reduce the chance. Anyway, Infernal Mantle is less rare and will get chanced succesfully much more often, so people get mad at it. :D

The basic idea is, from what I understand, that every item has a certain rarity tier and your chance orb can roll any of it.

If we assume chance orbs roll a random number from 1-1000 then for example only 1000 might give you a Shavs or Kaoms, but 990-999 might give you an Infernal Mantle (or nothing on the Glorious Plate) while 950-989 might roll a rare. Those numbers are obviously arbitrary but if you want to get really into detail you want to roll the most overpriced items for their specific tier (e.g. right now trying to chance a Shavs would be a lot more profitable than a Kaoms if we assume they're in the same tier).

Keep in mind that chance orbs are basically a lottery, all you can do is influence the odds of your payout if you hit the jackpot.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 06:12:20
September 17 2014 05:39 GMT
#16756
On September 17 2014 02:12 bluQ wrote:
3rd client-crash RIP in two days in my group. This time it hit me. Really sucks. And sucks my motivation out. Grrr.
Well I guess more time for ArcheAge ...
Don't watch if you don't have strong nerves(sadly no sound cause was watchin WCS):
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.twitch.tv/bluquh/c/5133308

Damn that looks painful lol. I think something similiar will happen to me at some point too. There's a lot of weird lagg in poe these days. And especially strongboxes, I remember when they were in leagues earlier, the screen freezes was barely noticeable, now I sometimes freeze for 2 seconds and almost died in a 74 map with 6k hp. I still get some blue screens occasionally, but the worst is when you don't bluescreen and your ATI driver just resets it self while you're somehow still ingame and can't do shit about it other than spamming alt f4 hoping it works out.

There's also some new error now that happens sometimes when I make new map, almost as if I just lose connection to poe even though I can still play. But if I try to join a map I just get disconnected back to the log in menu with the error "cannot join instance". Rip'd a couple of 78 to that recently. Ended up giving away a sea witch to a buddy since he could somehow join wehn I couldn't

Archeage looks decent though, considering trying it myself since there's still no race season in poe

sprættemætute
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 07:38:44
September 17 2014 07:36 GMT
#16757
On September 17 2014 14:39 ZoRoXo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 02:12 bluQ wrote:
3rd client-crash RIP in two days in my group. This time it hit me. Really sucks. And sucks my motivation out. Grrr.
Well I guess more time for ArcheAge ...
Don't watch if you don't have strong nerves(sadly no sound cause was watchin WCS):
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.twitch.tv/bluquh/c/5133308

Damn that looks painful lol. I think something similiar will happen to me at some point too. There's a lot of weird lagg in poe these days. And especially strongboxes, I remember when they were in leagues earlier, the screen freezes was barely noticeable, now I sometimes freeze for 2 seconds and almost died in a 74 map with 6k hp. I still get some blue screens occasionally, but the worst is when you don't bluescreen and your ATI driver just resets it self while you're somehow still ingame and can't do shit about it other than spamming alt f4 hoping it works out.

There's also some new error now that happens sometimes when I make new map, almost as if I just lose connection to poe even though I can still play. But if I try to join a map I just get disconnected back to the log in menu with the error "cannot join instance". Rip'd a couple of 78 to that recently. Ended up giving away a sea witch to a buddy since he could somehow join wehn I couldn't

Archeage looks decent though, considering trying it myself since there's still no race season in poe


Well I can live with a lot of things and my eyes rarly get watery about stuff like this but yesterday was a new pinnacle.
That Graphics driver crash, that your PC bluescreens, that your sound-driver crash, that PoE doesn't respond anymore, that the exe-itself had an error. All fine.
But yesterday my game just freezed on me while spotfiy, youtube, twitch, obs, windows, teamspeak etc was running fine.
I hit my logout(1-2secs passed) asap when i had the freeze and then hit ctrl+alt+del(3-4secs passed) and tried manually to end the process(4-5secs passed) and tranisitioned into turning the PC off complety, this all took about 6-7 seconds.
Welp
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 11:01:53
September 17 2014 10:59 GMT
#16758
On September 17 2014 09:33 Hikari wrote:
I like P1 merveil: it is easy once you learn her attack pattern.

P2 is where I feel RNG can play quite a factor: she likes to teleport around too, and often surround herself/players inside a dozen of cyclones, thus I felt the nerf (to p2) was justifiable.

Honestly at this point I am more worried about brutus than Merveil. In the past I used a rather safe strat of hugging pillars while using stormcall to wither him down, now I have to manually dodge his harpoon hook and pray I do not get oos'ed at any point...


what, if anything brutus is WAY more easier to do then before. his attacks seem to be weaker overall, his deathslam (weakslam now) has much less oomph and easier to dodge. don't forget you can use the skeles to block the chain too. because of this its much more comfortable taking on his turbo form now (which was super dangerous prepatch).

which kinda compensates for the increased difficulty of merveil P2.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 17 2014 11:37 GMT
#16759
Immortal Call/Vaal Immortal Call/Incr Duration/Enhance is completely broken. Combine it with Enduring Cry/Spell Echo you're effectively immune to any and all physical damage with 100% uptime.

The cost? 6 sockets and 1s cast time every 6-15s depending on quality/endurance charges.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
September 17 2014 11:48 GMT
#16760
On September 17 2014 20:37 r.Evo wrote:
Immortal Call/Vaal Immortal Call/Incr Duration/Enhance is completely broken. Combine it with Enduring Cry/Spell Echo you're effectively immune to any and all physical damage with 100% uptime.

The cost? 6 sockets and 1s cast time every 6-15s depending on quality/endurance charges.

And yet my 99% immo call uptime mara got wrecked on a 66 map by Haviri ... Damn you Haviri y u no use shockwave totem like pohx! (good old invasion <3)
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