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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
August 30 2014 05:38 GMT
#16461
Could this build be changed into a stronger life based EB build instead of a CI build? This is for an ele wander..

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYARXyXl_v1tDjlGYw2UEIHY6Iuy70OSOaBY0Nd8hGWFr_y4XDVk5V_xgMeRwaJ060zwcUc3CepflkfQdvncFIZ1yy_iEKTJ19qhq6CHrQMFdcUsOq6W_RGcVZjTC2aYQ18gwkRD8Jzx8pvnn6vrJjbXnNwyUScpI0Z99d0VVAwn4i-7ocT4BKESF8qTLM_c3cH2V9ca0V-LR9s592Mw20OXMUoHU8JoGr69ls1uc5wWbwRUKcrbRm9gtlbGyVLrukC_rPfipuh2wJ4ztMb-cjhiB2q
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 07:26:51
August 30 2014 07:15 GMT
#16462
Omg ... I'm speechless QQ

Died at lvl 68 doing a Haku mission... I ran to the exit, clicked it 4 times, nothing happened. Typed OOS. My char somehow ran to the other side of the stairway and then I was stuck and the relict spawned a shit ton of Tentacle Miscreations... -_-;; I was too slow in my brain to quit the game...Just clicking the stairs and die. D:
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8665 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 07:27:36
August 30 2014 07:21 GMT
#16463
On August 30 2014 14:38 Tennet wrote:
Could this build be changed into a stronger life based EB build instead of a CI build? This is for an ele wander..

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYARXyXl_v1tDjlGYw2UEIHY6Iuy70OSOaBY0Nd8hGWFr_y4XDVk5V_xgMeRwaJ060zwcUc3CepflkfQdvncFIZ1yy_iEKTJ19qhq6CHrQMFdcUsOq6W_RGcVZjTC2aYQ18gwkRD8Jzx8pvnn6vrJjbXnNwyUScpI0Z99d0VVAwn4i-7ocT4BKESF8qTLM_c3cH2V9ca0V-LR9s592Mw20OXMUoHU8JoGr69ls1uc5wWbwRUKcrbRm9gtlbGyVLrukC_rPfipuh2wJ4ztMb-cjhiB2q


Is this for softcore or hardcore? The CI version has relatively low ES already. Hard to make a good life build when the build is so top focused in the tree. This is what I came up with, just changing up life for ES and changing some routes to make it more efficient:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYARXyXl_v1tDjlGYw2UEIHY1VLLUfLvWHiHNwmlX_GkycWvyepflkRlqKj74i0DAMek5UOSAcewfP5N-q6W_RGcR9BrTNjQ13ylS6CHpUg188NfIMJ4YgZ13DV8NUUsNsLaxctH0mxb54dqonTSVFMLZphvOrFKEyznKTxs3BSEQ_Cc8fKwFT2W0V-UDCHE0tXfq-smHNwyURqQwj0WbwOXHcHwOONGffXOlh0VZ-Ivu5tGWr64BKboVXGXyo_c9lf2wKD22zn3Yx4zgmg0xvOcPnI

I would recommend running Cloak of Defiance (at least if HC) because 113% life isn't great at all. Otherwise you could drop some dmg nodes and travel to the scion life wheel, pick up life nodes and Inner Force. Also: You might wanna consider dropping the +30 Strength/Dex nodes and get them via gear. With the new crafting options it shouldn't be much of a problem.


On August 30 2014 16:15 HolydaKing wrote:
Omg ... I'm speechless QQ

Died at lvl 68 doing a Haku mission... I ran to the exit, clicked it 4 times, nothing happened. Typed OOS. My char somehow ran at the other side of the stairway and then I was stuck and the relict spawned a shit ton of Tentacle Miscreations... -_-;; I was too slow in my brain to quit the game...Just clicking the stairs and die. D:


Haku missions are prone to desync. Weird that you desync in a place where you shouldn't. Did the mission have falling rocks in it?

I personally pussy-out in missions as soon as I notice that I MIGHT not be able to do it. Did that for Vagan yesterday. His puncture hit me hard in the early stages so I decided to quit and not get raped by his last-breath-aggro-stance.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 07:37:58
August 30 2014 07:37 GMT
#16464
On August 30 2014 16:21 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 16:15 HolydaKing wrote:
Omg ... I'm speechless QQ

Died at lvl 68 doing a Haku mission... I ran to the exit, clicked it 4 times, nothing happened. Typed OOS. My char somehow ran at the other side of the stairway and then I was stuck and the relict spawned a shit ton of Tentacle Miscreations... -_-;; I was too slow in my brain to quit the game...Just clicking the stairs and die. D:


Haku missions are prone to desync. Weird that you desync in a place where you shouldn't. Did the mission have falling rocks in it?

I personally pussy-out in missions as soon as I notice that I MIGHT not be able to do it. Did that for Vagan yesterday. His puncture hit me hard in the early stages so I decided to quit and not get raped by his last-breath-aggro-stance.

That mission was at Lunaris Temple and pretty easy and I had it done if I didn't desync. There was no time limit and no rocks. I first fullcleared and then ran through when I had the relict. Also pretty sure that when I first was at the stairways, there were no spawns yet so they couldn't have blocked my way up.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8665 Posts
August 30 2014 08:04 GMT
#16465
On August 30 2014 16:37 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 16:21 Miragee wrote:
On August 30 2014 16:15 HolydaKing wrote:
Omg ... I'm speechless QQ

Died at lvl 68 doing a Haku mission... I ran to the exit, clicked it 4 times, nothing happened. Typed OOS. My char somehow ran at the other side of the stairway and then I was stuck and the relict spawned a shit ton of Tentacle Miscreations... -_-;; I was too slow in my brain to quit the game...Just clicking the stairs and die. D:


Haku missions are prone to desync. Weird that you desync in a place where you shouldn't. Did the mission have falling rocks in it?

I personally pussy-out in missions as soon as I notice that I MIGHT not be able to do it. Did that for Vagan yesterday. His puncture hit me hard in the early stages so I decided to quit and not get raped by his last-breath-aggro-stance.

That mission was at Lunaris Temple and pretty easy and I had it done if I didn't desync. There was no time limit and no rocks. I first fullcleared and then ran through when I had the relict. Also pretty sure that when I first was at the stairways, there were no spawns yet so they couldn't have blocked my way up.


That sounds like what sometimes happens to me in Descent: Champions at The Brute. Maybe you desynced way back and the resync didn't happen properly by the time you reached the stairs. Those deaths are silly, I hope you reroll.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 08:15:43
August 30 2014 08:09 GMT
#16466
On August 30 2014 17:04 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 16:37 HolydaKing wrote:
On August 30 2014 16:21 Miragee wrote:
On August 30 2014 16:15 HolydaKing wrote:
Omg ... I'm speechless QQ

Died at lvl 68 doing a Haku mission... I ran to the exit, clicked it 4 times, nothing happened. Typed OOS. My char somehow ran at the other side of the stairway and then I was stuck and the relict spawned a shit ton of Tentacle Miscreations... -_-;; I was too slow in my brain to quit the game...Just clicking the stairs and die. D:


Haku missions are prone to desync. Weird that you desync in a place where you shouldn't. Did the mission have falling rocks in it?

I personally pussy-out in missions as soon as I notice that I MIGHT not be able to do it. Did that for Vagan yesterday. His puncture hit me hard in the early stages so I decided to quit and not get raped by his last-breath-aggro-stance.

That mission was at Lunaris Temple and pretty easy and I had it done if I didn't desync. There was no time limit and no rocks. I first fullcleared and then ran through when I had the relict. Also pretty sure that when I first was at the stairways, there were no spawns yet so they couldn't have blocked my way up.


That sounds like what sometimes happens to me in Descent: Champions at The Brute. Maybe you desynced way back and the resync didn't happen properly by the time you reached the stairs. Those deaths are silly, I hope you reroll.

Yes it's something I experienced before as well, sometimes it even happens in town in act 1 when you go to the Blacksmith and get stuck while going to the WP.

Well I think I'll give Beyond another go, not giving up so quickly.. -_- But Probably not another Flame Totem char. It's incredibly safe and has a decent clearing speed but it's still rather slow.

Maybe I will try my first Bow build since 1,5 years ago when I went LA Duelist... Probably a Life build.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
August 30 2014 08:44 GMT
#16467
On August 30 2014 16:15 HolydaKing wrote:
I ran to the exit, clicked it 4 times, nothing happened.


typical desync symptom. client shows u reaching the exit, actual situation u are still stuck many screens away at a doorway getting surrounded and hit by enemies/rocks. fun times.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 12:50:37
August 30 2014 12:15 GMT
#16468
On August 30 2014 17:44 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 16:15 HolydaKing wrote:
I ran to the exit, clicked it 4 times, nothing happened.


typical desync symptom. client shows u reaching the exit, actual situation u are still stuck many screens away at a doorway getting surrounded and hit by enemies/rocks. fun times.

LA (who are you on TL btw? =P) and me had something similar yesterday (to be fair we also were pretty reckless and I started running before he actually had the zone loaded despite the game showing him already), the second I clicked the stairs and the loading screen wasn't showing up I popped Jade+/oos macro, saw myself in a shitplace, smacked flasks and logged.

I think the proper way to do these things is
1) Run around in circles until everyone else does it.
2) Semi-clear, aka at least throw an AoE attack in there 1-2 times to clear most of the white trash.
3) Maybe start bringing quartz flasks. I think those might be way better than we might think they are but they're also implying suicide runs in the first place. Kinda unsure there.

@Bowbuilds: Something that I think most people forgot so far is that both Piercing Iceshot and Tornado Shot builds while super strong solo get issues with projection and sustainability really quickly in groups. Sustaining via mana on kill is no longer possible, the way packs move can't be controlled as well, stuff like that. Compared to "classic" bow builds that rely on chain (e.g. LA) it looks a lot similar to ST in the way it works in groups. Really need to tweak my build a bit there. ;;

e: inb4 thief's torment aurabot build with Alphas. Anyone done something like that before?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3456 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 12:40:08
August 30 2014 12:38 GMT
#16469
Btw anyone has/know someone who has lvl 7 Vagan in Rampage can hit me up in game? Need to craft a mace, much appreciated <3
DinoToss
Profile Joined August 2013
Poland507 Posts
August 30 2014 12:40 GMT
#16470
On August 30 2014 17:09 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 17:04 Miragee wrote:
On August 30 2014 16:37 HolydaKing wrote:
On August 30 2014 16:21 Miragee wrote:
On August 30 2014 16:15 HolydaKing wrote:
Omg ... I'm speechless QQ

Died at lvl 68 doing a Haku mission... I ran to the exit, clicked it 4 times, nothing happened. Typed OOS. My char somehow ran at the other side of the stairway and then I was stuck and the relict spawned a shit ton of Tentacle Miscreations... -_-;; I was too slow in my brain to quit the game...Just clicking the stairs and die. D:


Haku missions are prone to desync. Weird that you desync in a place where you shouldn't. Did the mission have falling rocks in it?

I personally pussy-out in missions as soon as I notice that I MIGHT not be able to do it. Did that for Vagan yesterday. His puncture hit me hard in the early stages so I decided to quit and not get raped by his last-breath-aggro-stance.

That mission was at Lunaris Temple and pretty easy and I had it done if I didn't desync. There was no time limit and no rocks. I first fullcleared and then ran through when I had the relict. Also pretty sure that when I first was at the stairways, there were no spawns yet so they couldn't have blocked my way up.


That sounds like what sometimes happens to me in Descent: Champions at The Brute. Maybe you desynced way back and the resync didn't happen properly by the time you reached the stairs. Those deaths are silly, I hope you reroll.

Yes it's something I experienced before as well, sometimes it even happens in town in act 1 when you go to the Blacksmith and get stuck while going to the WP.

Well I think I'll give Beyond another go, not giving up so quickly.. -_- But Probably not another Flame Totem char. It's incredibly safe and has a decent clearing speed but it's still rather slow.

Maybe I will try my first Bow build since 1,5 years ago when I went LA Duelist... Probably a Life build.

Tornado shot ranger physical build is cool. But i died yesterday from my stupidity, killed trapper exile and run through his traps on a way out lmao
My wrist really started to flare up. My colossi number started to pile up and with the last of my concentration I prepared for a win.
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
August 30 2014 19:59 GMT
#16471
Man the economy is so dead on HC . I would play beyond but I don't really have time to start a new char right now. Anyone have alterations/fusings for trade on HC?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 30 2014 20:11 GMT
#16472
What's your username? Are you in the guild?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 22:03:50
August 30 2014 22:02 GMT
#16473
On August 31 2014 05:11 r.Evo wrote:
What's your username? Are you in the guild?


Im not in guild no, id like to be though. My character name is mDENIEDf
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 31 2014 06:11 GMT
#16474
Switched over to EB on my softcore FP witch. Currently running, Discipline+Clarity+Herald of Ice+Arctic Armour, I sort of want to switch out Herald of Ice for something else, any ideas?
liftlift > tsm
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 06:59:50
August 31 2014 06:59 GMT
#16475
So I'm doing a little theorycrafting, does anyone know how MoM, AA and Lightning Coil are prioritized?

With Vaal Orbs, you could theoretically corrupt 2 rings, an amulet and a shield for 6% mana gained as damage on hit for a total of 24% damage gained as mana. Adding on Ondar's Flight, that's a total of 34% damage gained as mana. With MoM, you're now gaining 4% mana while getting a effectively free 30% damage reduction.

Let's throw on an arctic armor (because if you run EB you run AA) for ~200 phys/fire resist

And then a lightning coil for another 40% physical damage converted to lightning (I'm going to say about 80% lightning resist is pretty reasonable).

Seems like it could be fairly tanky given that you get so much flat life now.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 31 2014 07:06 GMT
#16476
Lol, nice thoughts you have there. Might indeed be tanky but at what cost? :D

I found it funny how many shield nodes with %increased defences there are. I wonder how much Evasion/Armor a shield can give that way, lol. Must be a lot. It's not very hard to make builds with +200% of that, but then the Life will be pretty low again if you still wanna do get sufficient dmg nodes.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 31 2014 14:08 GMT
#16477
On August 31 2014 15:59 ticklishmusic wrote:
So I'm doing a little theorycrafting, does anyone know how MoM, AA and Lightning Coil are prioritized?

With Vaal Orbs, you could theoretically corrupt 2 rings, an amulet and a shield for 6% mana gained as damage on hit for a total of 24% damage gained as mana. Adding on Ondar's Flight, that's a total of 34% damage gained as mana. With MoM, you're now gaining 4% mana while getting a effectively free 30% damage reduction.

Let's throw on an arctic armor (because if you run EB you run AA) for ~200 phys/fire resist

And then a lightning coil for another 40% physical damage converted to lightning (I'm going to say about 80% lightning resist is pretty reasonable).

Seems like it could be fairly tanky given that you get so much flat life now.

0) Hit calc. Dodge, Evasion, Block all can stop the hit from occurring at all at this stage.
1) Lightning Coil ("damage taken as elmental") applies before any mitigation. Damage gets split (40% becomes Lightning, 60% stays Physical)
2) Your Armour (and things like Endurance Charges) get applied to the physical portion of the damage.
3) AA gets applied (which is why AA+Armour is so damn good).
4) NOW you actually take the damage. It's split around Mana/Health according to MoM.

What I'm not 100% sure is when the "Damage taken Gained as Mana when Hit" applies. My gut instinct is that it's at 0.5) but it might also be after 4). Should google around for that.

Grats you found out why someone like Etup is all over Lightning Coil ever since Invasion. It alone is pretty fucking nuts in most scenarios. =P
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 15:20:11
August 31 2014 15:17 GMT
#16478
My idea is that you could craft semi decent jewelry with Masters and a few alts and such, so you could get adequate rings/ ammy for a low price

I've been a huge fan of lightning coil for a long time though, I think I dropped a 5L one and it turned out to do better than my +90 hp T2/T1 resist chest. ._.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 15:49:12
August 31 2014 15:46 GMT
#16479
On August 31 2014 23:08 r.Evo wrote:
What I'm not 100% sure is when the "Damage taken Gained as Mana when Hit" applies. My gut instinct is that it's at 0.5) but it might also be after 4). Should google around for that.


Mark_GGG
"% damage taken gained as mana" occurs just before the damage taken is subtracted from ES/mana/life. If you're on full mana, it will do nothing, but if you're on no mana, you'll gain it just in time for mind over matter or similar to use that to absorb some damage before life.
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 21:24:40
August 31 2014 21:18 GMT
#16480
Nvm.
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