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Arekan
Profile Joined February 2011
United States248 Posts
August 31 2014 21:59 GMT
#16481
I've been trying to figure out for a while now what I should be using for my CI Freezing Pulse build's main link. So far, all I've got is FP, GMP, spell echo, and power charge on crit. What should I be considering as the 5th link (and if the greatest of fortunes smile upon me, a 6th link) or even something to replace one of the original 4? I was personally thinking cold pen somewhere with either added lightning or chaos, but I've got no clue as to what.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3456 Posts
August 31 2014 22:43 GMT
#16482
On September 01 2014 06:59 Arekan wrote:
I've been trying to figure out for a while now what I should be using for my CI Freezing Pulse build's main link. So far, all I've got is FP, GMP, spell echo, and power charge on crit. What should I be considering as the 5th link (and if the greatest of fortunes smile upon me, a 6th link) or even something to replace one of the original 4? I was personally thinking cold pen somewhere with either added lightning or chaos, but I've got no clue as to what.

Cold pen will be best by far.
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 23:04:02
August 31 2014 22:56 GMT
#16483
i was looking at gmp and fp ... i decided the maths for lmp was better

I went fp till about 52. Post your build only way to get an idea about what you can support.

its all about the mana regen rate.

but then i just spent a couple of nights on my dual totem templar and fucking killed him needlessly 20 mins after getting dual online properly.

im pissed.

Good build, bit of a mana regen issue (and manapool) had awesome resists and a bit low life ... idiot
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 01 2014 03:06 GMT
#16484
On September 01 2014 07:56 MrTortoise wrote:
i was looking at gmp and fp ... i decided the maths for lmp was better

I went fp till about 52. Post your build only way to get an idea about what you can support.

its all about the mana regen rate.

but then i just spent a couple of nights on my dual totem templar and fucking killed him needlessly 20 mins after getting dual online properly.

im pissed.

Good build, bit of a mana regen issue (and manapool) had awesome resists and a bit low life ... idiot

Pretty sure GMP is better, especially due to the shotgunning effect when combined with FP.
5x.5>3x.7

Not to mention the numbers get exponentially bigger with crits, due to shotgunning nature of it.
liftlift > tsm
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
September 01 2014 03:34 GMT
#16485
LMP allows you to hit a target from a distances away.

GMP does:
- gives you a bigger "arc", often I just let it "fan out" the whole 90 degrees angle and freeze the whole room.
- gives better shotgun damage

I use a 3 link'ed ice spear for sniping dangerous bosses/reflect rares.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 01 2014 03:50 GMT
#16486
How does LMP allow you to hit a target from further away? that's projectile speed based.
liftlift > tsm
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 04:46:21
September 01 2014 04:38 GMT
#16487
nvm.
☺
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8665 Posts
September 01 2014 08:56 GMT
#16488
On September 01 2014 07:43 vndestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 06:59 Arekan wrote:
I've been trying to figure out for a while now what I should be using for my CI Freezing Pulse build's main link. So far, all I've got is FP, GMP, spell echo, and power charge on crit. What should I be considering as the 5th link (and if the greatest of fortunes smile upon me, a 6th link) or even something to replace one of the original 4? I was personally thinking cold pen somewhere with either added lightning or chaos, but I've got no clue as to what.

Cold pen will be best by far.


This!

I would personally go with:

FP-Spell Echo-Cold Pen-GMP for a 4link.

5/6 link could be: Faster Casting, Faster Projectiles (synergises very well with FP), when playing with Crit PCoC and/or Critical Strike Multi

For your last thought: Added Cold would be far superior in your scenario compared to added lightning or added chaos.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
September 01 2014 15:06 GMT
#16489
So ... I traded a Carcass in this league and started to working on it.

So far:
395 Jewler used for 6soc(8x 5soc), 59 Fusings, 1x 5Link
540 Chroms used, 5x 3-Red, 0x 4-Red

Expecting 2k Chroms to color it T.T

But ´hey crafting is fun right? ^^
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
September 01 2014 15:10 GMT
#16490
On September 01 2014 17:56 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 07:43 vndestiny wrote:
On September 01 2014 06:59 Arekan wrote:
I've been trying to figure out for a while now what I should be using for my CI Freezing Pulse build's main link. So far, all I've got is FP, GMP, spell echo, and power charge on crit. What should I be considering as the 5th link (and if the greatest of fortunes smile upon me, a 6th link) or even something to replace one of the original 4? I was personally thinking cold pen somewhere with either added lightning or chaos, but I've got no clue as to what.

Cold pen will be best by far.


This!

I would personally go with:

FP-Spell Echo-Cold Pen-GMP for a 4link.

5/6 link could be: Faster Casting, Faster Projectiles (synergises very well with FP), when playing with Crit PCoC and/or Critical Strike Multi

For your last thought: Added Cold would be far superior in your scenario compared to added lightning or added chaos.


I have a question connected to cold penetration. Does it also work on you when you hit mobs with elemental reflect? In that case, it would be almost certain that a high crit freeze pulse will kill himself.
Brood War is the best RTS that has ever been created.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 15:22:56
September 01 2014 15:22 GMT
#16491
On September 02 2014 00:10 Ricjames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 17:56 Miragee wrote:
On September 01 2014 07:43 vndestiny wrote:
On September 01 2014 06:59 Arekan wrote:
I've been trying to figure out for a while now what I should be using for my CI Freezing Pulse build's main link. So far, all I've got is FP, GMP, spell echo, and power charge on crit. What should I be considering as the 5th link (and if the greatest of fortunes smile upon me, a 6th link) or even something to replace one of the original 4? I was personally thinking cold pen somewhere with either added lightning or chaos, but I've got no clue as to what.

Cold pen will be best by far.


This!

I would personally go with:

FP-Spell Echo-Cold Pen-GMP for a 4link.

5/6 link could be: Faster Casting, Faster Projectiles (synergises very well with FP), when playing with Crit PCoC and/or Critical Strike Multi

For your last thought: Added Cold would be far superior in your scenario compared to added lightning or added chaos.


I have a question connected to cold penetration. Does it also work on you when you hit mobs with elemental reflect? In that case, it would be almost certain that a high crit freeze pulse will kill himself.

As far as I know the portion of damage that is taken is treated as the same damage-type that the incoming attack was (therefor; spell, cold, projectile) and is then reduced by your defensive stats.
That the damage itself gets any amplifier that is linked to the original incoming attack would be news to me
(and would be weird in itself)

edit: to clarify; your cold pen allready got applied at the initial hit therefor doesn't need to be applied once again when the reflect hits you.
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
September 01 2014 15:29 GMT
#16492
On September 02 2014 00:10 Ricjames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 17:56 Miragee wrote:
On September 01 2014 07:43 vndestiny wrote:
On September 01 2014 06:59 Arekan wrote:
I've been trying to figure out for a while now what I should be using for my CI Freezing Pulse build's main link. So far, all I've got is FP, GMP, spell echo, and power charge on crit. What should I be considering as the 5th link (and if the greatest of fortunes smile upon me, a 6th link) or even something to replace one of the original 4? I was personally thinking cold pen somewhere with either added lightning or chaos, but I've got no clue as to what.

Cold pen will be best by far.


This!

I would personally go with:

FP-Spell Echo-Cold Pen-GMP for a 4link.

5/6 link could be: Faster Casting, Faster Projectiles (synergises very well with FP), when playing with Crit PCoC and/or Critical Strike Multi

For your last thought: Added Cold would be far superior in your scenario compared to added lightning or added chaos.


I have a question connected to cold penetration. Does it also work on you when you hit mobs with elemental reflect? In that case, it would be almost certain that a high crit freeze pulse will kill himself.


It's the damage that is reflected, not the spells, attacks or effects.

Cold Penetration will cause you to deal more cold damage and therefore more cold damage will be reflected, but that cold damage will interact with your character like normal damage from other sources, except that reflected damage can't cause status effects or stun.
~
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 01 2014 17:02 GMT
#16493
Ugh. Elemental reflect is my enemy. Did a map yesterday that was 18% ele reflect. I had to remove one link to reduce dmg and put 2 sapphire pots in. I still had to be careful, if I critted on a mob of 5 or more. I'd kill myself.
liftlift > tsm
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
September 01 2014 17:17 GMT
#16494
Fuck me.

Rip Lv65 Beyond 2h cyclone marauder.

Was a really fun character, I died to a strongbox that I really didn't have any concerns about. It spawned like all void bears though, and i was dropping fast (even with max res) I thought I got away, but desync'd back about 10 feet. I probably could have alf-f4 but I thought I got away. What a mistake.

Oh well, time to plan something else. Rip CrmspellOMEGA.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
September 01 2014 22:35 GMT
#16495
I am bored. Anyone got a guide/build for that bow-based herald of ash/prolif thing? Might try making one to see stuff burn.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 02 2014 05:50 GMT
#16496
Man Haku quests are just terrible. Just now I had to Alt F4 on a mission where I got permashocked and had to fight a Necromancer which was casting 8 skeletons per second around me which I couldn't kill fast enough. I tried to move out and succesfully did so a few times, but I felt like I would have died to desync for sure if trying more.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
September 02 2014 06:05 GMT
#16497
My Ball Lightning build is great at clearing mobs, but I can't do Vagan for shit because I have absolutely no single target.

Right now about 500 tooltip DPS on ball lightning with spell echo + ball lightning + lightning pen + life leech + increased aoe, 2.5K ES/700HP (no nodes, might go CI), Act 1 merciless

Any tips? I suppose for Vagan I could drop the increased AOE for something and be not lazy and use conductivity... not sure what else.

Current Tree
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-02 07:37:25
September 02 2014 07:35 GMT
#16498
On September 02 2014 15:05 ticklishmusic wrote:
My Ball Lightning build is great at clearing mobs, but I can't do Vagan for shit because I have absolutely no single target.

Right now about 500 tooltip DPS on ball lightning with spell echo + ball lightning + lightning pen + life leech + increased aoe, 2.5K ES/700HP (no nodes, might go CI), Act 1 merciless

Any tips? I suppose for Vagan I could drop the increased AOE for something and be not lazy and use conductivity... not sure what else.

Current Tree

Your passive tree is far from optimal
And afaik you don't want to use inc aoe. Go for Faster Casting+SpellEcho+BL+LightPen+LifeLeech.
And in terms of passive skills you should look for cast speed and crit.

A life base BL build i did for a friend looked like this: http://poeurl.com/yYQSkxE
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
September 02 2014 08:52 GMT
#16499
I need your help guys, as I'm lvl 72 now and starting to progress through my maps, I wanted to know whats the best way to roll maps.
Some key questions:

When do I start using chisels?
When do I start using alchs instead of transmutes?
If I'm 73 and the xp from 66 maps will decrease, should I vendor recipe them to 67 or still run the 66s?
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-02 09:10:56
September 02 2014 09:06 GMT
#16500
On September 02 2014 17:52 Vallelol wrote:
I need your help guys, as I'm lvl 72 now and starting to progress through my maps, I wanted to know whats the best way to roll maps.
Some key questions:

When do I start using chisels?
When do I start using alchs instead of transmutes?
If I'm 73 and the xp from 66 maps will decrease, should I vendor recipe them to 67 or still run the 66s?

What league are you in?

I have some sort of priorty list(for exp) in my head:
1. xx% Pack Size
2. xx% Magic Monster,
3. xx% Rare Monster, Sea Witches
4. Inhabitat by Skeleton

Those stats sort of increase exp and map loot without making the clear-time suffer.

If you play beyond-league you don't want to play pack size and sea witches if you can't handle lost of beyonder.

I tend to only chisel 74+ maps, sometimes when i feel like it i just randomly chisel 70-73 maps but in general 74+.
My group stopped alching maps for exp.
The outcome of alching maps is so random that it oftens hurts your clear speed. Once you hit a point where your party just facerolls maps and gear can sustain bad mods(ele weak, halfreg, noreg etc) you can yolo-alch and chaos maps to get maps like: xx% packsize, xx% magic monster, ...

On September 02 2014 17:52 Vallelol wrote:
If I'm 73 and the xp from 66 maps will decrease, should I vendor recipe them to 67 or still run the 66s?

I only vendor 66's if I know I won't drop down to 67's in terms of mappool. Meaning when I have plenty 69s some 68s and playing mostly 70s+.
I tend to save around 10 66's if I twink or die.
67's suck so hard most of the times(yeye mountain ledge is the exception..) that I don't even want them as well so 66's go into chisel recipies in lategame and 67's get traded up or also chisel.
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
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