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On September 02 2014 18:06 bluQ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 17:52 Vallelol wrote:
I need your help guys, as I'm lvl 72 now and starting to progress through my maps, I wanted to know whats the best way to roll maps.
Some key questions:
When do I start using chisels?
When do I start using alchs instead of transmutes?
If I'm 73 and the xp from 66 maps will decrease, should I vendor recipe them to 67 or still run the 66s? What league are you in? I have some sort of priorty list(for exp) in my head: 1. xx% Pack Size 2. xx% Magic Monster, 3. xx% Rare Monster, Sea Witches 4. Inhabitat by Skeleton Those stats sort of increase exp and map loot without making the clear-time suffer. If you play beyond-league you don't want to play pack size and sea witches if you can't handle lost of beyonder. I tend to only chisel 74+ maps, sometimes when i feel like it i just randomly chisel 70-73 maps but in general 74+. My group stopped alching maps for exp. The outcome of alching maps is so random that it oftens hurts your clear speed. Once you hit a point where your party just facerolls maps and gear can sustain bad mods(ele weak, halfreg, noreg etc) you can yolo-alch and chaos maps to get maps like: xx% packsize, xx% magic monster, ...
Thanks for your answer, really helps!
I am in Rampage though and solo most of my maps, right now I can pretty much do any mods on 66/67 maps and clear them pretty fast thats why I was wondering if yolo-alching is worth it
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On September 02 2014 16:35 bluQ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 15:05 ticklishmusic wrote:My Ball Lightning build is great at clearing mobs, but I can't do Vagan for shit because I have absolutely no single target. Right now about 500 tooltip DPS on ball lightning with spell echo + ball lightning + lightning pen + life leech + increased aoe, 2.5K ES/700HP (no nodes, might go CI), Act 1 merciless Any tips? I suppose for Vagan I could drop the increased AOE for something and be not lazy and use conductivity... not sure what else. Current Tree Your passive tree is far from optimal  And afaik you don't want to use inc aoe. Go for Faster Casting+SpellEcho+BL+LightPen+LifeLeech. And in terms of passive skills you should look for cast speed and crit. A life base BL build i did for a friend looked like this: http://poeurl.com/yYQSkxE
I would personally recommend going Slower Projectiles.
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OMG ... 4 times red, 1 green, 1 blue sockets on my carcass ... but not in 5Link <.<
What do you guys recommend, rolling the 5Link again or keep spamming chromes to get 4-times red, 1 green again on the right spots?
currency wasted so far:
+ Show Spoiler +395 Jewler used for 6soc, 59 Fusings, 1x 5Link
742 Chroms used, 7x 3-Red, 1x 4-Red
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On September 02 2014 18:13 Miragee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 16:35 bluQ wrote:On September 02 2014 15:05 ticklishmusic wrote:My Ball Lightning build is great at clearing mobs, but I can't do Vagan for shit because I have absolutely no single target. Right now about 500 tooltip DPS on ball lightning with spell echo + ball lightning + lightning pen + life leech + increased aoe, 2.5K ES/700HP (no nodes, might go CI), Act 1 merciless Any tips? I suppose for Vagan I could drop the increased AOE for something and be not lazy and use conductivity... not sure what else. Current Tree Your passive tree is far from optimal And afaik you don't want to use inc aoe. Go for Faster Casting+SpellEcho+BL+LightPen+LifeLeech. And in terms of passive skills you should look for cast speed and crit. A life base BL build i did for a friend looked like this: http://poeurl.com/yYQSkxE I would personally recommend going Slower Projectiles.
slower projectiles reduces the range of the LB. tho it would be a good gem for single target, u are forced to have it on all the time since theres no green gem replacement for mobs.
i would replace faster casting with added lightning. add light really gives a significant amount of dps boost (at least from my experience levelling with it). unless ua re going crit, then increased crit multi and Pcoc is more impt.
and rather than wasting a gem slot on life leech, its better to get light leech on gear (doryani belt/master craft), freeing up a gem slot for another dps gem.
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On September 02 2014 20:57 bluQ wrote:OMG ... 4 times red, 1 green, 1 blue sockets on my carcass ... but not in 5Link <.< What do you guys recommend, rolling the 5Link again or keep spamming chromes to get 4-times red, 1 green again on the right spots? currency wasted so far: + Show Spoiler +395 Jewler used for 6soc, 59 Fusings, 1x 5Link
742 Chroms used, 7x 3-Red, 1x 4-Red
I think fusings would be easier?!
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I would never alch a map below 70 unless i'm wildly over-geared. The chances of bricking it with something un-doable (-max ele reflect comes to mind) is far too high for the value of whatever quantity you'd get from the map. Once you are doing 74+ maps I find it hard to justify doing blue maps but thats because i'm on softcore  And yeah save chisels for 74+ imo. You'll never believe how fast they disappear once ur at that point.
Rolling a 4-red 5l on a carcass jack? o.o I don't have advice other than "thank god I don't have to do that"
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On September 02 2014 22:08 Vallelol wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 20:57 bluQ wrote:OMG ... 4 times red, 1 green, 1 blue sockets on my carcass ... but not in 5Link <.< What do you guys recommend, rolling the 5Link again or keep spamming chromes to get 4-times red, 1 green again on the right spots? currency wasted so far: + Show Spoiler +395 Jewler used for 6soc, 59 Fusings, 1x 5Link
742 Chroms used, 7x 3-Red, 1x 4-Red I think fusings would be easier?!
My mates talked me into fusing too ... T.T well quest for 6-Link has begun P
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could you do the 150 fuse 5link recipe or would that link the wrong sockets?
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On August 28 2014 03:23 KillerSOS wrote:
I level so slow... is it still normal to just level ledges - fellshire - western - sarn - docks and group for quests/bosses?
optimum is 2 levels under map level for exp and drops
on beyond i just rush everything as its hard to stay on that.
normal takes me about 4-5 hours and im not fast ... i see people doing it faar faster ... trick to that is to use peoples parties to get wp further on. If you do that then *maybe* you need to stop to farm areas - but i doubt it ;p once you get to merciless that changes!!!
The trick is to realise that gear isnt important until lvl 50 in the sense that you only need a few key stats and are really looking for the right sockets once you hit 30+
someone once said 300 armour makes a diff under that its meaningless.
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On September 03 2014 00:23 Sn0_Man wrote:
could you do the 150 fuse 5link recipe or would that link the wrong sockets?
Mate just 5linked second time, same spot <.<
But well after 150 fusings we had 2 times 5-Link which means i woulnd't do the Masters-Linking
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lol.
Well keep in mind if you want the "ghetto 5-link" as I call it (the 1+5 not the 5+1) then its a VERY specific combination of socket rolls.
Specifically, the way the game rolls links, it rolls a number from 1 to 6 for the first socket, links that many sockets, then moves on to the next unlinked socket, etc. So while a 5+1 link requires simply a "5" roll, a 1+5 link requires BOTH a 1 (not super common) roll AND a 5 roll, exponentially reducing the chances of getting 1+5 links. They definitely exist and occur but they are substantially less likely than 5+1 links.
Food for thought.
PS: how come a 300+ pdps crit bow is so hard to acquire fucking FotM
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On September 01 2014 12:06 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 07:56 MrTortoise wrote:
i was looking at gmp and fp ... i decided the maths for lmp was better
I went fp till about 52. Post your build only way to get an idea about what you can support.
its all about the mana regen rate.
but then i just spent a couple of nights on my dual totem templar and fucking killed him needlessly 20 mins after getting dual online properly.
im pissed.
Good build, bit of a mana regen issue (and manapool) had awesome resists and a bit low life ... idiot Pretty sure GMP is better, especially due to the shotgunning effect when combined with FP. 5x.5>3x.7 Not to mention the numbers get exponentially bigger with crits, due to shotgunning nature of it.
the problem isnt the damage its the mana regen.
When you get to late game and you dont want to have to have a mana pot due to needing things like granite and resist pots you *need* the mana regen.
maybe his passice tree does support it but then hes going to be squishy as fuck. You cant have everything ... but life / es .. mana regen, a mana pool, resists and damage ... oh and crit? thats like everything. Maybe in softcore but not in beyond, but even in sc you wont be able to do maps unless you have a tank in the party and you are just serious glass cannon.
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I dunno GMP freeze pulse isn't cheap but it isn't unsustainable either. Especially if you can go life + EB + MoM.
You really don't need that many damage points from the tree tbh, and they have diminishing returns.
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On September 03 2014 01:46 Sn0_Man wrote:
I dunno GMP freeze pulse isn't cheap but it isn't unsustainable either. Especially if you can go life + EB + MoM.
You really don't need that many damage points from the tree tbh, and they have diminishing returns.
yeah ok - butt hats about the only way i see it working, but now you just spent i think its 27 levels just to get mom and eb.
Thats actually a build im about to try so dont have too much experience of it. Am liking the ball lightning / arc / iceshot builds
But ... mom and maintaining high mana usage stuff arnt really compatible if you want to also soak dps.
Eg running mass aura is not so much an option surley.
however rather than gmp id rather lmp and a decent totem .... the opportunity cost of that mana is big.
Just my opinion tbh, im probably wrong, but want so good ideas :D
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Cloak of defiance owns btw.
The opportunity cost is not negligible but the ability to run arctic armour etc is so good, especially since arctic armor applies AFTER armor reductions and IR is right next to MOM so you if you go and get the passive you can have a crazily over-tanky build. Yeah its a lot of points but all you have to do is plan for those points to be relevant to your build. bluQ's current build actually does that super-well. He's MOM + EB + IR and uses the points down to duelist tree to get claw nodes combined with the claw nodes up top near EB. He's pretty damn tanky as melee with only around 4K hp and no % regen (lol).
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ahh cloak
yeah i think i was a really agro witch build using that the other day ...
so if you are doing that in a fp gmp build that could work really really well.
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On September 03 2014 02:34 MrTortoise wrote:
ahh cloak
yeah i think i was a really agro witch build using that the other day ...
so if you are doing that in a fp gmp build that could work really really well.
But be aware that you need a mana pot for a high-manacost skill like FP. If you get bursted down to 0 mana you maybe even want to run a bubbling to give you the instant boost + reg to keep casting even under heavy pressure.
On September 03 2014 00:32 MrTortoise wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2014 03:23 KillerSOS wrote:
I level so slow... is it still normal to just level ledges - fellshire - western - sarn - docks and group for quests/bosses? The trick is to realise that gear isnt important until lvl 50 in the sense that you only need a few key stats and are really looking for the right sockets once you hit 30+
^this, ^this, and ^this.
You normally just need some decent legendaries which are traded for 2-4 chaos and that should be enough to carry you to cruel dominus. (dual weild melee; ungils, 2hand; geofris(comparable 2h), random +1 lvl to X-element etcetc).
After that you need to stack resis and if you don't have a granite and are crisp on your flask timings some amor (20-30%ish)
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Spell echo works with enduring cry despite the cooldown, yes?
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dunno i think the question is would the charges stack ... id expect not.
dont have a spell echo to test with
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On September 03 2014 04:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
Spell echo works with enduring cry despite the cooldown, yes?
The cooldown is triggered like normal after the spell echos.
On September 03 2014 04:42 MrTortoise wrote:
dunno i think the question is would the charges stack ... id expect not.
dont have a spell echo to test with
Since you're manually casting, you can level it up so you don't need echo, but you get charges for the enduring cry and the echo. Echo doesn't work with cwdt so it is pretty useless for enduring cry imo
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