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Vatican City State2902 Posts
hey yo vara, you're the one that's super rich on standard right?
i've got a friend who's poor and playing a blender and he feels like he's dying a lot
he's like somewhere in the 6x range and doesn't have a BoR and i feel like that might be (some of) the problem
realistically he probably doesn't have much good gear at all and has low health because he says he dies to desync a TON. even with desync-prone builds i don't see how you could die as much as he says he does
so can you hook him up with a cheap BoR?
or if vara isn't the one that's super rich on standard, can anyone who's got money to burn and plays standard give me a shout? i'll pm his ign to whomever wants to help.
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On June 21 2014 09:35 Nocticate wrote:
hey yo vara, you're the one that's super rich on standard right?
i've got a friend who's poor and playing a blender and he feels like he's dying a lot
he's like somewhere in the 6x range and doesn't have a BoR and i feel like that might be (some of) the problem
realistically he probably doesn't have much good gear at all and has low health because he says he dies to desync a TON. even with desync-prone builds i don't see how you could die as much as he says he does
so can you hook him up with a cheap BoR?
or if vara isn't the one that's super rich on standard, can anyone who's got money to burn and plays standard give me a shout? i'll pm his ign to whomever wants to help.
I currently have about 3-4 ex equiv on SC. lol.
If you could post his gear and his tree I could recommend changes, cheap gear upgrades or possible give him something depending on what he is using.
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Dafuq did you spend all your dirty fishing money on
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My guess is blackjack and hookers.
Or it could be the legacy ST + coe he acquired, who knows :D.
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Vatican City State2902 Posts
On June 21 2014 17:06 Varanice wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 09:35 Nocticate wrote:
hey yo vara, you're the one that's super rich on standard right?
i've got a friend who's poor and playing a blender and he feels like he's dying a lot
he's like somewhere in the 6x range and doesn't have a BoR and i feel like that might be (some of) the problem
realistically he probably doesn't have much good gear at all and has low health because he says he dies to desync a TON. even with desync-prone builds i don't see how you could die as much as he says he does
so can you hook him up with a cheap BoR?
or if vara isn't the one that's super rich on standard, can anyone who's got money to burn and plays standard give me a shout? i'll pm his ign to whomever wants to help.
I currently have about 3-4 ex equiv on SC. lol. If you could post his gear and his tree I could recommend changes, cheap gear upgrades or possible give him something depending on what he is using.
damn i could have sworn we had someone who had mad bank on standard
honestly he just needs to remake his current toon and learn how to get good gear but i haven't been able to get that through to him
any suggestions?
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On June 22 2014 06:54 Nocticate wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 17:06 Varanice wrote:On June 21 2014 09:35 Nocticate wrote:
hey yo vara, you're the one that's super rich on standard right?
i've got a friend who's poor and playing a blender and he feels like he's dying a lot
he's like somewhere in the 6x range and doesn't have a BoR and i feel like that might be (some of) the problem
realistically he probably doesn't have much good gear at all and has low health because he says he dies to desync a TON. even with desync-prone builds i don't see how you could die as much as he says he does
so can you hook him up with a cheap BoR?
or if vara isn't the one that's super rich on standard, can anyone who's got money to burn and plays standard give me a shout? i'll pm his ign to whomever wants to help.
I currently have about 3-4 ex equiv on SC. lol. If you could post his gear and his tree I could recommend changes, cheap gear upgrades or possible give him something depending on what he is using. damn i could have sworn we had someone who had mad bank on standard honestly he just needs to remake his current toon and learn how to get good gear but i haven't been able to get that through to him any suggestions?
Varanice is the rich guy. He just spends his money on himself instead of donating it to strangers for some reason.
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In reality, I think it takes about 3 characters to really get going, or at least that's how I play most 4 month leagues. First one, build something cheap and tanky that can piety/ dominus farm. As soon as you can, buy a bunch of twinking gear. I believe we get a respec next patch, so take advantage of that. Second one should be a MF character-- twink your way up, then farm like crazy. Third on you can twink to play around with builds, or use money from your second to do crazy expensive stuff.
That was kind of a random aside. I thought Vara was one of the oldest players here and had legacy stuff already anyways.
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Varanice oldest player lol
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The MF toon part can be skipped imo, especially with the new unique tier distribution. It's boring, and you can always friend with a dom MF culler for same benefits w/o gimping yourself in map ability.
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Lacking a BoR probably isn't the problem for a char that isn't even to map content yet. I doubt he'd have the life/resists on non-chest pieces to use it, anyway. What is he trying to do that is causing so much death? I would guess resists/life are low, that is nearly always what is going on when a new player hits a3m and goes wah im dieing halp.
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On June 22 2014 17:00 Eschaton wrote:
Lacking a BoR probably isn't the problem for a char that isn't even to map content yet. I doubt he'd have the life/resists on non-chest pieces to use it, anyway. What is he trying to do that is causing so much death? I would guess resists/life are low, that is nearly always what is going on when a new player hits a3m and goes wah im dieing halp.
A new player playing Cyclone in itself is a bad idea.
Cyclone from the skill mechanic is counter-intuitive in terms of how you click NOT on mobs if you cant sustain the lifecost.
Then you will desync if you cyclone near walls and objects.
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On June 22 2014 19:20 bluQ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 17:00 Eschaton wrote:
Lacking a BoR probably isn't the problem for a char that isn't even to map content yet. I doubt he'd have the life/resists on non-chest pieces to use it, anyway. What is he trying to do that is causing so much death? I would guess resists/life are low, that is nearly always what is going on when a new player hits a3m and goes wah im dieing halp. A new player playing Cyclone in itself is a bad idea. Cyclone from the skill mechanic is counter-intuitive in terms of how you click NOT on mobs if you cant sustain the lifecost. Then you will desync if you cyclone near walls and objects.
Cyclone is also bad. The only reason i'm using it is because i'm using soul taker.
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On June 22 2014 19:52 Varanice wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 19:20 bluQ wrote:On June 22 2014 17:00 Eschaton wrote:
Lacking a BoR probably isn't the problem for a char that isn't even to map content yet. I doubt he'd have the life/resists on non-chest pieces to use it, anyway. What is he trying to do that is causing so much death? I would guess resists/life are low, that is nearly always what is going on when a new player hits a3m and goes wah im dieing halp. A new player playing Cyclone in itself is a bad idea. Cyclone from the skill mechanic is counter-intuitive in terms of how you click NOT on mobs if you cant sustain the lifecost. Then you will desync if you cyclone near walls and objects. Cyclone is also bad. The only reason i'm using it is because i'm using soul taker.
Disagreing on that. Cyclone is a pretty good skill in terms of dps&clearing speed 
But since there are plenty of tunnel and cave architectures in the map pool its a pain to desync along on some meeps.
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On June 22 2014 20:09 bluQ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 19:52 Varanice wrote:On June 22 2014 19:20 bluQ wrote:On June 22 2014 17:00 Eschaton wrote:
Lacking a BoR probably isn't the problem for a char that isn't even to map content yet. I doubt he'd have the life/resists on non-chest pieces to use it, anyway. What is he trying to do that is causing so much death? I would guess resists/life are low, that is nearly always what is going on when a new player hits a3m and goes wah im dieing halp. A new player playing Cyclone in itself is a bad idea. Cyclone from the skill mechanic is counter-intuitive in terms of how you click NOT on mobs if you cant sustain the lifecost. Then you will desync if you cyclone near walls and objects. Cyclone is also bad. The only reason i'm using it is because i'm using soul taker. Disagreing on that. Cyclone is a pretty good skill in terms of dps&clearing speed But since there are plenty of tunnel and cave architectures in the map pool its a pain to desync along on some meeps.
All melee skills in comparison to ST are kinda bad, with the exception of leap slam early on, and dualstrike/doublestrike/molten for single target. Cyclone is the best melee skill behind ST though, I think.
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On June 22 2014 20:59 Varanice wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 20:09 bluQ wrote:On June 22 2014 19:52 Varanice wrote:On June 22 2014 19:20 bluQ wrote:On June 22 2014 17:00 Eschaton wrote:
Lacking a BoR probably isn't the problem for a char that isn't even to map content yet. I doubt he'd have the life/resists on non-chest pieces to use it, anyway. What is he trying to do that is causing so much death? I would guess resists/life are low, that is nearly always what is going on when a new player hits a3m and goes wah im dieing halp. A new player playing Cyclone in itself is a bad idea. Cyclone from the skill mechanic is counter-intuitive in terms of how you click NOT on mobs if you cant sustain the lifecost. Then you will desync if you cyclone near walls and objects. Cyclone is also bad. The only reason i'm using it is because i'm using soul taker. Disagreing on that. Cyclone is a pretty good skill in terms of dps&clearing speed But since there are plenty of tunnel and cave architectures in the map pool its a pain to desync along on some meeps. All melee skills in comparison to ST are kinda bad, with the exception of leap slam early on, and dualstrike/doublestrike/molten for single target. Cyclone is the best melee skill behind ST though, I think.
Well comparing a broken skill that isn't even a melee skill with melee skills is maybe not a good idea.
ST just scales off of melee-weapon stats but in essence is not a melee skill(melee phys weapon dmg etc.), and imho still needs a real nerf in terms of hit confirms per target.
Cyclone is one of the few true-AoE melee skills that can go strong in lategame comparing their clearspeed to other builds.
Keeping the movement while killing can make cycloner real beasts in clear speed. and 20k+ dps is quite easy to achieve without having a single 6ex+ item.
edit: YAY friend of mine ripped my 5L searing touch playing my flameblast build ... some people can't be saved from danger(stupidity): Vaal Cyclone + Monster Pack Size = you should never flameblast - not even on stage 1 - if you CAN'T see if there is a reflect mob or not ... yea .. one shot.
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Spectral throw is basically an archer who gets to use a weapon for quiver stats
Well, playing flameblast is basically asking to RIP to reflect. You can mitigate the chances of it happening, but it will eventually happen.
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On June 23 2014 00:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
Well, playing flameblast is basically asking to RIP to reflect. You can mitigate the chances of it happening, but it will eventually happen.
But flameblast is soooooo much fun to level lol. Even without searing touch, craft yourself a +1 to fire weapon and feel op till merc.
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Vatican City State2902 Posts
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hnnnnnnnngggggg
coming next patch to a shop on standard nowhere near your price range!
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On June 23 2014 10:00 Nocticate wrote:+ Show Spoiler +hnnnnnnnngggggg coming next patch to a shop on standard nowhere near your price range!
Welp, that's going to be the best item ever for MoM builds.
Also IIRC Spell Echo is basically multistrike: http://i.imgur.com/aMHcyUA.jpg
Question is if the cast timer is negated or what by it.
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On June 22 2014 20:09 bluQ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 19:52 Varanice wrote:On June 22 2014 19:20 bluQ wrote:On June 22 2014 17:00 Eschaton wrote:
Lacking a BoR probably isn't the problem for a char that isn't even to map content yet. I doubt he'd have the life/resists on non-chest pieces to use it, anyway. What is he trying to do that is causing so much death? I would guess resists/life are low, that is nearly always what is going on when a new player hits a3m and goes wah im dieing halp. A new player playing Cyclone in itself is a bad idea. Cyclone from the skill mechanic is counter-intuitive in terms of how you click NOT on mobs if you cant sustain the lifecost. Then you will desync if you cyclone near walls and objects. Cyclone is also bad. The only reason i'm using it is because i'm using soul taker. Disagreing on that. Cyclone is a pretty good skill in terms of dps&clearing speed But since there are plenty of tunnel and cave architectures in the map pool its a pain to desync along on some meeps.
The guy who came up with the blender build uses both, swapping between two different BoRs with optimal gems for either cyclone or dual strike, but recommends nearly everyone using DS over cyclone due to mana issues.
I'm actually thinking of starting out with a dual striker next league and don't expect to do much cycloning unless I'm lucky and drop an ST early on.
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