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On January 28 2013 12:33 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 11:59 Obstikal wrote: Died on lvl 37 on act3 boss with quarter health left... I dont know where I went wrong :'(
she killed me so fast.. went from full 740/376 to 0 in seconds, I drained my giant hp flasks and tried to run away but it was too late.. all this within 2-3seconds Did you get hit by a long range ice spear?
I wish there was a combat log but its too late even if there was..
From what I remember she just gave me some regular melee hits possibly crits in her regular form.. It just happened all so quickly its hard to recall exactly in detail.. The funny part is that I was able to tank(well maybe not tank but I recall her hitting me quite a few times in both forms early on and I never dropped more than 3/4 life) her hits in both forms and really felt the fight to be easy. Then all of the sudden she just focuses me down with a few melee hits so I smashed my 1-2 giant life flasks and I was starting to run away when I died.
I feel rather unmotivated at the moment..
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Is life leech with chain better than life gain on hit with chain?
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On January 28 2013 12:38 Tennet wrote: Is life leech with chain better than life gain on hit with chain?
Life leech is better once you do enough damage. Life gain on hit is far superior early on though. You only leech off your physical damage though.
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On January 28 2013 12:37 Obstikal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 12:33 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On January 28 2013 11:59 Obstikal wrote: Died on lvl 37 on act3 boss with quarter health left... I dont know where I went wrong :'(
she killed me so fast.. went from full 740/376 to 0 in seconds, I drained my giant hp flasks and tried to run away but it was too late.. all this within 2-3seconds Did you get hit by a long range ice spear? I wish there was a combat log but its too late even if there was.. From what I remember she just gave me some regular melee hits possibly crits in her regular form.. It just happened all so quickly its hard to recall exactly in detail.. The funny part is that I was able to tank(well maybe not tank but I recall her hitting me quite a few times in both forms early on and I never dropped more than 3/4 life) her hits in both forms and really felt the fight to be easy. Then all of the sudden she just focuses me down with a few melee hits so I smashed my 1-2 giant life flasks and I was starting to run away when I died. I feel rather unmotivated at the moment..
Darn, too late now but just did that boss on my 37 mara running conduit + endurance charges in a party. Tough fight definately... if not for quicksilver flasks I might not have made it (we lost one in the group). Definately wanna cap cold res for that one- can't run away from the ice arrows if it gets nasty!
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edit: i answered my first question myself. and i am disappoint
also, what happens with weapon elemental damage if you crit?
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On January 28 2013 13:01 travis wrote: edit: i answered my first question myself. and i am disappoint
also, what happens with weapon elemental damage if you crit?
Pretty sure it procs the secondary effect of the element (shock, ignite, freeze/chill).
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depending on what element you have on your weapon, you should apply the ignite / freeze / shock status.
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On January 28 2013 12:33 Mithhaike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 11:32 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Do you normally 5L your AoE or your single target first? I'm using Elemental Hit and Lightning Arrow currently and have a 4L as well. LA+Fork+LifeLeech+Mana Leech Elemental Hit+Weapon elemental Damage+Mana Leech I'm intending to pick up blood magic sooner or later, but right now I don't have the damage and life leech to sustain it. Also unsure of what other support gems I should be looking for. Faster attacks would be nice, but I'm already killing my mana with my bow's base attack. I'm gonna pick up a LifeLeech for the Elemental hit, but I'm lost after that. + Show Spoiler [my sexy armor] +Paid a few arms and leg for this but ^_^ wow sexy armor rofl. im the same as you. right now tho im only 26 at normal vaal(2nd char,screwed up my first) Planning to go LA/Elemental hit too for now,going change to split arrow. Right now im using the following. LA+Fork+LMP (using it as a shotgun. gather monsters next to each other and hit the middle guys) Frenzy+WED Goal for 4Ls(with blood magic) AOE: LA+Life leech+Chain(can still stick with fork)+LMP Single: Elemental hit+WED+Faster attack+life leech 5Ls AOE: Leveled Split Arrow+Life Leech+Weapon Elemental Damage+Chain+ Increased Critical Damage Single: leveled Elemental hit+Life Leech+Weapon Elemental Damage+Increased Critical damage+Faster Attacks 6Ls AOE: Leveled Split Arrow+Life Leech+Weapon Elemental Damage+Chain+Faster Attacks+Increased Critical Damage Single: Leveled Elemental hit+Life Leech+Weapon Elemental Damage+Faster Attacks+Culling Strike+Increased Critical Damage I don't know where the trend for Split Arrow + WED comes from, but Lightning Arrow is most likely better with 5L. LA + LMP + WED + (LoHit+Chain). On a 4 mob pack, you would hit 36 times, with a base of ~25% damage, times ~1.7 as almost all your damage would be elemental. Also, LMP + LA + Chain all give Projectile damage, giving you about +105% at gem level 15.
Split Arrow only increases physical damage, and doesn't convert, so WED really isn't that effective. It also costs more mana.
Elemental hit is still very powerful for single target, however. I'd like to see the exact numbers, but anything above 6-360 base lightning damage makes it easily the best single target attack beside a dedicated frenzy build. Burning Arrow + WED barely outdamages Ice Shot + WED, so I wouldn't be surprised if they buffed it; 50% physical to fire conversion with a ~120% base and +projectile damage% sounds about right.
Note: I claimed that Chain wasn't that valuable anymore and I was wrong. Most mobs they added are in smaller numbers, and Chain is the only option that is just as strong for 5 mobs than 20. Fork/Pierce are better to farm western forest or maps with ridiculous pack size, but for A3, chain > Fork, it's not even close.
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Nugiyen is where the trend came from but even he uses LA now and doesn't like split since it just doesn't work.
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Screw all those fancy second rate spells, all you need is the NotSorry's special Ice Arrow.
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Yeah I'm in the camp where I have the skills I want but getting a Energy shield 5L chest/4L helm/4L gloves with the socket colours I need at a decent iLevel is quite a pain :/. It seems like only equipment people sell in Trade chat are junk rares with an occasional unique that is worthless for my build haha.
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On January 28 2013 15:12 Tennet wrote: Nugiyen is where the trend came from but even he uses LA now and doesn't like split since it just doesn't work.
Actually nugiyen also uses Split Arrow over LA.
For the WED gem, the thing is it doesn't matter your not converting your physical to elemental damage. The gem increases your bow's elemental damage by 61% just by being there.
As for Lightning Arrow / Split Arrow / Iceshot, it doesn't matter which i use. You can change the shot as you wish. Elemental Bow builds its flexible that way.
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Found a Chain gem off a random drop, time to make Bank ;D.
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Im building a witch focused around ES+Cold+Crit, on Softcore. Would you guys recommend getting +max health on top of focusing to ES? And if yes, would you suggest on getting as much max HP as possible, or what? Im so far only level 22, and im not sure on how much the difficulty will scale up. So far im doing good with just ES, but i'd hate to find out that im terribly wrong later on.
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On January 28 2013 14:35 Pwere wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 12:33 Mithhaike wrote:On January 28 2013 11:32 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Do you normally 5L your AoE or your single target first? I'm using Elemental Hit and Lightning Arrow currently and have a 4L as well. LA+Fork+LifeLeech+Mana Leech Elemental Hit+Weapon elemental Damage+Mana Leech I'm intending to pick up blood magic sooner or later, but right now I don't have the damage and life leech to sustain it. Also unsure of what other support gems I should be looking for. Faster attacks would be nice, but I'm already killing my mana with my bow's base attack. I'm gonna pick up a LifeLeech for the Elemental hit, but I'm lost after that. + Show Spoiler [my sexy armor] +Paid a few arms and leg for this but ^_^ wow sexy armor rofl. im the same as you. right now tho im only 26 at normal vaal(2nd char,screwed up my first) Planning to go LA/Elemental hit too for now,going change to split arrow. Right now im using the following. LA+Fork+LMP (using it as a shotgun. gather monsters next to each other and hit the middle guys) Frenzy+WED Goal for 4Ls(with blood magic) AOE: LA+Life leech+Chain(can still stick with fork)+LMP Single: Elemental hit+WED+Faster attack+life leech 5Ls AOE: Leveled Split Arrow+Life Leech+Weapon Elemental Damage+Chain+ Increased Critical Damage Single: leveled Elemental hit+Life Leech+Weapon Elemental Damage+Increased Critical damage+Faster Attacks 6Ls AOE: Leveled Split Arrow+Life Leech+Weapon Elemental Damage+Chain+Faster Attacks+Increased Critical Damage Single: Leveled Elemental hit+Life Leech+Weapon Elemental Damage+Faster Attacks+Culling Strike+Increased Critical Damage I don't know where the trend for Split Arrow + WED comes from, but Lightning Arrow is most likely better with 5L. LA + LMP + WED + (LoHit+Chain). On a 4 mob pack, you would hit 36 times, with a base of ~25% damage, times ~1.7 as almost all your damage would be elemental. Also, LMP + LA + Chain all give Projectile damage, giving you about +105% at gem level 15. Split Arrow only increases physical damage, and doesn't convert, so WED really isn't that effective. It also costs more mana. Elemental hit is still very powerful for single target, however. I'd like to see the exact numbers, but anything above 6-360 base lightning damage makes it easily the best single target attack beside a dedicated frenzy build. Burning Arrow + WED barely outdamages Ice Shot + WED, so I wouldn't be surprised if they buffed it; 50% physical to fire conversion with a ~120% base and +projectile damage% sounds about right. Note: I claimed that Chain wasn't that valuable anymore and I was wrong. Most mobs they added are in smaller numbers, and Chain is the only option that is just as strong for 5 mobs than 20. Fork/Pierce are better to farm western forest or maps with ridiculous pack size, but for A3, chain > Fork, it's not even close.
Split Arrow + WED + Added Fire outdamages the new LA. LA doesn't shock anymore so doesn't do idiotic amounts of damage. Added Fire is based off your phys dmg, so having it with split arrow + wed makes it do idiotic amounts of dmg.
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Does Zealots Oath + Chaos Inoculation make health pots regen shield?
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On January 28 2013 17:03 superstartran wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 14:35 Pwere wrote:On January 28 2013 12:33 Mithhaike wrote:On January 28 2013 11:32 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Do you normally 5L your AoE or your single target first? I'm using Elemental Hit and Lightning Arrow currently and have a 4L as well. LA+Fork+LifeLeech+Mana Leech Elemental Hit+Weapon elemental Damage+Mana Leech I'm intending to pick up blood magic sooner or later, but right now I don't have the damage and life leech to sustain it. Also unsure of what other support gems I should be looking for. Faster attacks would be nice, but I'm already killing my mana with my bow's base attack. I'm gonna pick up a LifeLeech for the Elemental hit, but I'm lost after that. + Show Spoiler [my sexy armor] +Paid a few arms and leg for this but ^_^ wow sexy armor rofl. im the same as you. right now tho im only 26 at normal vaal(2nd char,screwed up my first) Planning to go LA/Elemental hit too for now,going change to split arrow. Right now im using the following. LA+Fork+LMP (using it as a shotgun. gather monsters next to each other and hit the middle guys) Frenzy+WED Goal for 4Ls(with blood magic) AOE: LA+Life leech+Chain(can still stick with fork)+LMP Single: Elemental hit+WED+Faster attack+life leech 5Ls AOE: Leveled Split Arrow+Life Leech+Weapon Elemental Damage+Chain+ Increased Critical Damage Single: leveled Elemental hit+Life Leech+Weapon Elemental Damage+Increased Critical damage+Faster Attacks 6Ls AOE: Leveled Split Arrow+Life Leech+Weapon Elemental Damage+Chain+Faster Attacks+Increased Critical Damage Single: Leveled Elemental hit+Life Leech+Weapon Elemental Damage+Faster Attacks+Culling Strike+Increased Critical Damage I don't know where the trend for Split Arrow + WED comes from, but Lightning Arrow is most likely better with 5L. LA + LMP + WED + (LoHit+Chain). On a 4 mob pack, you would hit 36 times, with a base of ~25% damage, times ~1.7 as almost all your damage would be elemental. Also, LMP + LA + Chain all give Projectile damage, giving you about +105% at gem level 15. Split Arrow only increases physical damage, and doesn't convert, so WED really isn't that effective. It also costs more mana. Elemental hit is still very powerful for single target, however. I'd like to see the exact numbers, but anything above 6-360 base lightning damage makes it easily the best single target attack beside a dedicated frenzy build. Burning Arrow + WED barely outdamages Ice Shot + WED, so I wouldn't be surprised if they buffed it; 50% physical to fire conversion with a ~120% base and +projectile damage% sounds about right. Note: I claimed that Chain wasn't that valuable anymore and I was wrong. Most mobs they added are in smaller numbers, and Chain is the only option that is just as strong for 5 mobs than 20. Fork/Pierce are better to farm western forest or maps with ridiculous pack size, but for A3, chain > Fork, it's not even close. Split Arrow + WED + Added Fire outdamages the new LA. LA doesn't shock anymore so doesn't do idiotic amounts of damage. Added Fire is based off your phys dmg, so having it with split arrow + wed makes it do idiotic amounts of dmg.
LA itself doesn't shock yes.But your personal shock damage does still shock. Wrath aura for one. It's still pretty good to use
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On January 28 2013 10:06 Mohdoo wrote: When are people gonna stop being surprised when an open beta results in server instability. Its the entire purpose of an open beta. Exactly. Give them at least 2-3 weeks to get enough servers up and running, I'm sure they are very aware and want to fix it, so there's no use whining about it. Especially not when the servers have worked very smoothly before they opened the beta.
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Do gems naturally start at 0% gem quality and increase randomly for each gemcutter prism? Whats the max gem quality?
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