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Locke-
Profile Joined December 2011
499 Posts
January 26 2013 02:46 GMT
#3981
It looks really awesome. Too bad I can't play it too much, my internet keeps disconnecting and sends me back to base every time, but I'll definitely try it more when I fix it!
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
January 26 2013 03:08 GMT
#3982
On January 26 2013 10:17 Doppelganger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 10:02 anatase wrote:
So now that people could reach some level and go through the game

how do you think it compares to D3 ? Do you think they can be compared ? Do you prefer D3 or PoE ? Lets Team"Gallup"Liquid hold a poll.

Poll: What do you think of PoE ?

Awesome, Better than D3 (30)
 
75%

Ok... (3)
 
8%

Not good at all (3)
 
8%

Awesome, On Par with D3 (2)
 
5%

Awesome, Not as Good as D3 (2)
 
5%

40 total votes

Your vote: What do you think of PoE ?

(Vote): Awesome, Better than D3
(Vote): Awesome, On Par with D3
(Vote): Awesome, Not as Good as D3
(Vote): Ok...
(Vote): Not good at all



I really like it but have not played D 3

Sadly so far I am a little bit annoyed with the lack of controlled changing of gem slot numbers, connections and colors.

On the other hand to make the potion flasks into items was a stroke of genius and I just found a temporary solution on the skill tree for the lack of intelligence I experience atm.

There is a pretty good way: Choose what items you pick up based on number and links of sockets. Do not pick up the items you want to use based on rarity. You can always change the colours with a few stacks of chromatic orbs or the rarity with basically the rest of the orbs!
Repeat before me
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
January 26 2013 03:26 GMT
#3983
The barter system, skill/socket links/and passive tree are a whole lot more innovative than D3 but the actual play experience is not as smooth which is largely more a budget thing than anything else I feel.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
January 26 2013 03:33 GMT
#3984
On January 26 2013 12:26 RuskiPanda wrote:
The barter system, skill/socket links/and passive tree are a whole lot more innovative than D3 but the actual play experience is not as smooth which is largely more a budget thing than anything else I feel.

I have to agree. The gameplay part is lacking, especially something as simple as ease of clicking monsters is much worse than D3. D3 nailed the A and failed the RPG part, PoE does the RPG part well and lacks on the A.
anatase
Profile Joined May 2010
France532 Posts
January 26 2013 03:33 GMT
#3985
On January 26 2013 12:26 RuskiPanda wrote:
The barter system, skill/socket links/and passive tree are a whole lot more innovative than D3 but the actual play experience is not as smooth which is largely more a budget thing than anything else I feel.



That's a bit rude knowing it's the very early stage of a BETA compared to a game that took eternity to be released from one of the biggest dev company in the world. And they still did not that good.

But I understand your feeling, it lacks some polishing in mvt/ enemy selection etc...

Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
January 26 2013 03:40 GMT
#3986
On January 26 2013 12:33 seiferoth10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 12:26 RuskiPanda wrote:
The barter system, skill/socket links/and passive tree are a whole lot more innovative than D3 but the actual play experience is not as smooth which is largely more a budget thing than anything else I feel.

I have to agree. The gameplay part is lacking, especially something as simple as ease of clicking monsters is much worse than D3. D3 nailed the A and failed the RPG part, PoE does the RPG part well and lacks on the A.


Let's see it took blizzard 10 years to make that piece of shit vs. a team of 14 guys who didn't even have any fuckin money to make this. Not to mention these "gameplay issues" are nowhere near as bad as people make them out to be. Aside from the very few skills that are known to cause desync issues.
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
January 26 2013 03:44 GMT
#3987
Character development is the best part. It has been a long time since I played a game that requires you to do some complex calculations in order to determine the best result. The combat system is kind of boring indeed, but it is nothing a little music can't fix. Reminds me of WoW during vanilla and TBC.

The only downside is that I am scared of grouping with random people in HC. Lets just say that my grouping experiences with randoms back in closed beta were bad and now you have way more people playing so the chances of bad things are much much higher.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1556 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 04:09:00
January 26 2013 03:47 GMT
#3988
On January 26 2013 12:33 seiferoth10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 12:26 RuskiPanda wrote:
The barter system, skill/socket links/and passive tree are a whole lot more innovative than D3 but the actual play experience is not as smooth which is largely more a budget thing than anything else I feel.

I have to agree. The gameplay part is lacking, especially something as simple as ease of clicking monsters is much worse than D3. D3 nailed the A and failed the RPG part, PoE does the RPG part well and lacks on the A.
D3 just put a huge targetbox around mobs. Targetting ground was a nightmare (useful for monks who don't want to teleport every strike...) That said, PoE could improve a lot. I feel like using smaller boxes for mobs that are far away, but bigger boxes for mobs in melee would help. You can quickly click away to move out of a fight without accidentally targeting a mob, but you don't have as much trouble targeting the snakes and little craps like that in melee.

They also have a lot of improvement for skill gems in the work. For now, they'll simply be adding more skills. But there were a couple suggestions during CB that will make gems and maps just so much better. My favorite for skill gems is to have you choose 2-3 improvements as you level the gem. For example, Lightning Arrow could get either a small shock chance or hit one more target at level 8, and either a pierce chance or additional lightning damage at level 14. This would add some more customization to the gem and would encourage you to actually level gems.

As for maps, suggestions included having maps made for groups, with puzzles solved as teams (nothing too complex, but having to split your group in two involves a lot more strategy), and smaller maps with multiple levels that get progressively harder, and after each level you get the choice of claiming a reward or keep going. If you portal out before finishing a level, you lose the additional reward, so you have to think carefully.

I don't know if we'll see that kind of system in a matter of months or years, but it will get that much more awesome.
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
January 26 2013 03:55 GMT
#3989
If you are having trouble targeting hold shift so your character doesn't run around instead of attacking. The only time this doesn't work great is when you are a necromancer but at that point it is hard to do anything besides keep spawning minions.
What does it matter how I loose it?
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
January 26 2013 04:03 GMT
#3990
Based on what I read in the last two pages, let me remind most of you that it was a design choice to have your character feel lacking and sluggish because you were just exiled. As you progress and gear up you will feel more powerful and the game will be much more fluid.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1556 Posts
January 26 2013 04:07 GMT
#3991
On January 26 2013 12:55 Percutio wrote:
If you are having trouble targeting hold shift so your character doesn't run around instead of attacking. The only time this doesn't work great is when you are a necromancer but at that point it is hard to do anything besides keep spawning minions.
Shift clicking doesn't really work in melee, not for single target abilities anyway. You'll swing at nothing really often due to desyncs and misclicks. Even at range it's not ideal, which is why clicking on the mob is so much better. It tells the server you aim at the mob, wherever he is.
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
January 26 2013 04:11 GMT
#3992
On January 26 2013 13:07 Pwere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 12:55 Percutio wrote:
If you are having trouble targeting hold shift so your character doesn't run around instead of attacking. The only time this doesn't work great is when you are a necromancer but at that point it is hard to do anything besides keep spawning minions.
Shift clicking doesn't really work in melee, not for single target abilities anyway. You'll swing at nothing really often due to desyncs and misclicks. Even at range it's not ideal, which is why clicking on the mob is so much better. It tells the server you aim at the mob, wherever he is.

You can still aim when you shift click you just wont walk around if you don't hit exactly on or otherwise fail to attack entirely. If you still miss while holding shift then you are having some terrible mouse control or lag (Or just missing because it is something that happens).
What does it matter how I loose it?
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 04:28:04
January 26 2013 04:25 GMT
#3993
On January 26 2013 12:47 Pwere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 12:33 seiferoth10 wrote:
On January 26 2013 12:26 RuskiPanda wrote:
The barter system, skill/socket links/and passive tree are a whole lot more innovative than D3 but the actual play experience is not as smooth which is largely more a budget thing than anything else I feel.

I have to agree. The gameplay part is lacking, especially something as simple as ease of clicking monsters is much worse than D3. D3 nailed the A and failed the RPG part, PoE does the RPG part well and lacks on the A.
D3 just put a huge targetbox around mobs. Targetting ground was a nightmare (useful for monks who don't want to teleport every strike...) That said, PoE could improve a lot. I feel like using smaller boxes for mobs that are far away, but bigger boxes for mobs in melee would help. You can quickly click away to move out of a fight without accidentally targeting a mob, but you don't have as much trouble targeting the snakes and little craps like that in melee.

They also have a lot of improvement for skill gems in the work. For now, they'll simply be adding more skills. But there were a couple suggestions during CB that will make gems and maps just so much better. My favorite for skill gems is to have you choose 2-3 improvements as you level the gem. For example, Lightning Arrow could get either a small shock chance or hit one more target at level 8, and either a pierce chance or additional lightning damage at level 14. This would add some more customization to the gem and would encourage you to actually level gems.

As for maps, suggestions included having maps made for groups, with puzzles solved as teams (nothing too complex, but having to split your group in two involves a lot more strategy), and smaller maps with multiple levels that get progressively harder, and after each level you get the choice of claiming a reward or keep going. If you portal out before finishing a level, you lose the additional reward, so you have to think carefully.

I don't know if we'll see that kind of system in a matter of months or years, but it will get that much more awesome.


Post these kind of things in their forums as well. They have a very good record of listening to the players and taking suggestions.

With that being said the only problems i've encountered so far is lag(teleporting back), I crashed for the 1st time earlier today and I sometimes randomly see some patches of just black on the floor
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1556 Posts
January 26 2013 04:49 GMT
#3994
Heh, I have, don't worry, but now is not the time for additional suggestions. The right threads will get necro'd once the post-OB commotion is over. They basically have 2 months of stuff lined up, including Act 3 Ex and a new batch of skills.
On January 26 2013 13:11 Percutio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 13:07 Pwere wrote:
On January 26 2013 12:55 Percutio wrote:
If you are having trouble targeting hold shift so your character doesn't run around instead of attacking. The only time this doesn't work great is when you are a necromancer but at that point it is hard to do anything besides keep spawning minions.
Shift clicking doesn't really work in melee, not for single target abilities anyway. You'll swing at nothing really often due to desyncs and misclicks. Even at range it's not ideal, which is why clicking on the mob is so much better. It tells the server you aim at the mob, wherever he is.

You can still aim when you shift click you just wont walk around if you don't hit exactly on or otherwise fail to attack entirely. If you still miss while holding shift then you are having some terrible mouse control or lag (Or just missing because it is something that happens).
When your attack takes almost a full second, you prefer to walk around a bit than swing at the air But the issue is only with the fricking snakes. The new plan is simply to leap slam in place. Let's see them dodge That.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 26 2013 05:08 GMT
#3995
If you have problems running away there is a run only button
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
January 26 2013 05:19 GMT
#3996
Wow Piety was tough as a summoner :o . All dat lightning aoe killing my minions faster than I could resummon most of them. Ended up equipping 2 topaz rings and just manfighting it with freezing pulse xD.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
January 26 2013 06:03 GMT
#3997
I don't know who it was whispering me on HC but was nice to speak with a fellow TL member. ATM I'm lvl 45 and if any new players needs help just whisper Lifeleechs
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
January 26 2013 06:12 GMT
#3998
On January 26 2013 15:03 Benjamin99 wrote:
I don't know who it was whispering me on HC but was nice to speak with a fellow TL member. ATM I'm lvl 45 and if any new players needs help just whisper Lifeleechs


Might as well throw up my name too. Atrixxaa level 30 ele ranger.

Walked into vaal with a group of 5, walked out with 2 lol.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 26 2013 07:09 GMT
#3999
Does anyone know how much chains are worth? I want one, but I don't want to overpay for it ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 07:28:19
January 26 2013 07:23 GMT
#4000
On January 26 2013 16:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Does anyone know how much chains are worth? I want one, but I don't want to overpay for it ^_^

HC or SC? i've been offering 10 alchs for the last 5 hours in in hc trade and havnt got a single tell :[, chain still strong even after nerf apparently (still scales well with high crit/crit dmg builds) :s

edit: im referencing Chain btw, not sure if u meant temporal chains or not
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