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Velr
Switzerland10801 Posts
On June 26 2025 21:13 haitike wrote: ....I’m planning to do bosses with this build anyway. Can it do T17 or Ubers? Atleast T17 would be important because else i can just Pcoc again ^^ My gear is now probably 30-40 Divines, so I can sell it while leveling and have a nice start over  | ||
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Miragee
8590 Posts
On June 26 2025 21:13 haitike wrote: I leveled my Arakaali Spider Witch to 92, and it's feeling good. With the new helmet, a cheaper Squire, and the Amanamu’s Gaze jewel (around 5–6 divines), I’m rolling over most content. Since I'm playing a Witch (tankier than Elementalist), I sometimes have to use Melee Splash due to not having Profane Bloom but it’s fine. I’m planning to do bosses with this build anyway. Oh, I hadn’t heard of that build before, but I looked into it and it seems to use a one-handed weapon with three support gem mods from influence, plus The Squire, making it essentially a 9-link. Did I get that right? That sounds insane for Flicker Strike and I'm tempted for a third character  You mean Necro? Elementalist doesn't really make sense because you don't benefit from the new Golems with The Dark Monarch. Sounds like a fun build though. Maybe I'll try that since I would have to level another char for it (would be my first full respec ever I think...). What skill are you using for initial kills or when spiders die on bosses? //edit: oh, worms? Hollow Palm Flicker sounds tempting as well because I have never played either of the two. hmh... | ||
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haitike
Spain2719 Posts
You only need to use the worm flask at the beginning of the map (hold down divine ire before using the flask) and in bosses with no previous monsters. That is because the spiders keep genereting themselves because when monster die with their poison, the poison counts as your kill. So you don't really need Gravebind. Can it do T17 or Ubers? Atleast T17 would be important because else i can just Pcoc again ^^ I think probably yes, but I still didn't try. I need to invest more in the chracter, buy cluster jewels, jewels, etc. Hollow Palm Flicker sounds tempting as well because I have never played either of the two. hmh... I think he meant using Hollow Palm for leveling the character until maps. As far as I know, you can't use flicker strike unarmed. The squire stuff sounds interesting though. | ||
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Miragee
8590 Posts
On June 26 2025 23:06 haitike wrote: Yes, I wanted to say Necro. You only need to use the worm flask at the beginning of the map (hold down divine ire before using the flask) and in bosses with no previous monsters. That is because the spiders keep genereting themselves because when monster die with their poison, the poison counts as your kill. So you don't really need Gravebind. I think probably yes, but I still didn't try. I need to invest more in the chracter, buy cluster jewels, jewels, etc. I think he meant using Hollow Palm for leveling the character until maps. As far as I know, you can't use flicker strike unarmed. The squire stuff sounds interesting though. Ah, makes sense, thank you! Fuck maps I guess, back to PoB. ^.^ | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6178 Posts
I'll swap to flicker later on. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10801 Posts
Just running and watching your Merc kill stuff (Wanders and Lightnign Bow seem best :p). | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10801 Posts
On June 26 2025 23:06 haitike wrote: Yes, I wanted to say Necro. You only need to use the worm flask at the beginning of the map (hold down divine ire before using the flask) and in bosses with no previous monsters. That is because the spiders keep genereting themselves because when monster die with their poison, the poison counts as your kill. So you don't really need Gravebind. I think probably yes, but I still didn't try. I need to invest more in the chracter, buy cluster jewels, jewels, etc. Managed to level the Char up over the weekend as Occultist... Now doing some T16 and just swapped to CI (maybe a bit too early but you never know if you don't try  ).Just need to work at my tankiness a bit, right now i'm a bit vulnerable to various random one shots but it isn't too bad if I don't roll rippy mods. Looking for some way to passively get Endurance Charges and more Jewels with ES should possibly do the trick to make it a phenomenal map blaster. Not sure about endgame bosses yet, dmg seems fine aside from the occasional chaos/wither resistant mob so with good play at least all non ubers should be plenty doable.. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14047 Posts
Oath of winter makes everything till yellow maps free. But then you hit this incredible wall where your dps is just dodo and you need to gear properly like any other class but you're not able to grind any good strategies. Then you get your double tincture "turbo" buttons and everything feels free again. Then you try and juice and find out that you have no defensive accensions and you'll get popped or drained. I'm on my last "first real" round of upgrades and are now going to get my wand good, and finally realizeing that trickster KB would probably have been better. Guess who already rolled up a trickster tho, this guy. Guess whos now addicted to crop rotation and is a dirty little farmer now? This guy, harvest scarbs are cheap and you can really get a ton of juice from it. | ||
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Miragee
8590 Posts
On June 30 2025 18:43 Velr wrote: Managed to level the Char up over the weekend as Occultist... Now doing some T16 and just swapped to CI (maybe a bit too early but you never know if you don't try ).Just need to work at my tankiness a bit, right now i'm a bit vulnerable to various random one shots but it isn't too bad if I don't roll rippy mods. Looking for some way to passively get Endurance Charges and more Jewels with ES should possibly do the trick to make it a phenomenal map blaster. Not sure about endgame bosses yet, dmg seems fine aside from the occasional chaos/wither resistant mob so with good play at least all non ubers should be plenty doable.. I somehow missed this post. I'm much in the same boat, just a week later because I did continue with my Cold Snap Ignite a bit further because the clear got better with a couple upgrades. However, it was just a pain to kill even the first Black Star. I also got one-shot fairly often, which I blamed on bad gear on CI (I typically don't play CI). However, now on my second char I'm not so sure anymore. This league feels more rippy, even besides some of the insane Mercs. Anyhow, at some point I decided it's time to do another char, didn't respec but leveled another Witch for Arakaali's Spiders on Necro. I personally don't like the clear speed. The Dark Monarch helped a ton but it still feels mediocre. However, bossing is very smooth. I did the memory strand ones blind and only died to the last one because I didn't know what to do in the "rose" phase. In that phase particularly though, the spiders feel like a cheat because they absorb so many of the projectiles. I think I would have lost all 6 portals on any other char... As for the new league in general, my concerns from before league start still stand and some new ones were added. Mercs are not exciting at all. Finding the right one for you is annoying. Quite a few of them randomly one-shot you, even when playing careful, which makes interacting with them not fun. And then even if you got one, you still need to gear him and I have to gear myself properly still... Currently, I'm playing without one because why bother... I despise the new petal skills and hope they get rid of them as soon as possible. They are like sentinels but instead you have to spam them and half the time they don't seem to work... Random side note: The ground effects you can add in memory strands (Exarch, Sirus etc.) are a pain in the ass. Not sure if those are new modifiers or T17 ones but I cannot remember them from last league. On July 06 2025 15:06 Sermokala wrote: I'm on my last "first real" round of upgrades and are now going to get my wand good, and finally realizeing that trickster KB would probably have been better. Guess who already rolled up a trickster tho, this guy. Guess whos now addicted to crop rotation and is a dirty little farmer now? This guy, harvest scarbs are cheap and you can really get a ton of juice from it. This made me grin, thanks!^^ | ||
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Craton
United States17264 Posts
I was doing a rallying cry merc on my Starcaller build to add a lot of flat phys, but my latest iteration is just Doryani's Institute on a hatred merc while I search for a smite merc that doesn't have purity of lightning. It's hard to beat Doryani's for just about any build this league. There's also the option of wearing The Admiral for non-lightning builds. The process of finding the right merc does suck - they could make that a lot better by just increasing the amount of exile slots so you more consistently get the types you're looking for. Here are some the notes I made early in the league for things useful for mercs. I haven't updated it in awhile. + Show Spoiler [Merc Notes] + Mercs are allies (can be Linked) Mercs are NOT party members Mercs are NOT minions Keystones and Notables from gear do work with mercs Triggers don't work with socketed skills due to merc skill system Curse limit is per enemy, so you or merc need +1 limit to have 2+ combined curses General ideas: Curse on hit (Curse on hit rings, gloves; Anathema curse limit) Charge generation (Conduit doesn't work) "Nearby" effects MF + Gravebind Rings Doedre's damning (Additional curse) Grattus signet (Attacks unnerve, spells intimidate) Call of the Void (Enemies chilled by your hits lesson damage by half chill effect) Blackflame (Wither does not expire on enemies ignited by you) Icefang Orbit (Non-chilled enemies you poison are chilled) Venopuncture (Non-chilled enemies you bleed are chilled) Polaric Devastation (Left, cover enemies in Ash when you ignite them; right, cover enemies in Frost when you freeze them) Amulet Perquil's Toe (nearby allies damage is lucky; 5M) Yoke of Suffering (Enemies take (5-10)% increased Damage for each type of Ailment you have inflicted on them) Aul's Uprising (Hits against Nearby enemies have 50% inc crit chance; 6M) Shaper's Seed (Nearby allies inc 80% mana regen, regen 4% life per sec; 4.6M) Eternal Struggle (15% cull w/ exarch) Pandemonius (Blind chilled enemies on hit) Xoph's Blood (Cover enemies in Ash when they hit you) Xoph's Heart (Nearby enemies are covered in ash) Ignomon (Nearby enemies are blinded; ??M) Corruption implicit (Additional curse) Belt Kaom's Binding (Nearby enemies convert 25% phys to fire; 6M) Belt of the Deceiver (Nearby enemies intimidated; 2.5M) Gluttony (Cull vs cursed enemies) Gloves Ceaseless Feast (corrosion -armor debuff, endurance/frenzy charges) Lochtonial Caress (Conduit) Asenath's Gentle Touch (Curse w/ temp chains on hit, explosion) Gravebind (Nearby enemies killed by anyone count as killed by you instead; 4M) Vixen's Entrapment (Additional curse) Weapon Oro's Sacrifice (Frenzy on igniting an enemy) The Red Trail (Frenzy) Replica Tulfall (Frenzy/power w/ freeze) Terminus Est (Frenzy on crit) Kingmaker (Nearby 10 fort, cull; 3M) Singularity (100% increased Damage against Hindered Enemies; 3.5M hinder) Dying Breath (Nearby enemies 18% inc curse effect on them, allies 18% inc non-curse aura effect; 7.5M) Sign of the Sin Eater (Enemies inflict ele ailments on you instead of nearby allies; 6M) Shield Redblade Banner + Enduring Cry Victario's Charity (10% grant power charge to ally on kill, 5% grant frenzy on hit; 4M) Replica Victario's Charity (10% Frenzy charge to ally on kill, 5% endurance on hit; 4M) Brinerot Flag (Warcries grant Arcane Surge to you and allies, 10% inc effect per 5 power max 50%) Anticipation (Permanently intimidate enemies on block) Dawnbreaker (Scorch enemies in close range on block) Sentari's Answer (Curse w/ punishment/temp chains/ele weak upon blocking melee/proj attack/spells, respectively; ignores curse limit) Deep One's Hide (Curse w/ vuln on block) Body Doppelgänger Guise (10% regen when hit, 30-40% less phys/chaos taken) Doryani's Institute (Nearby negative lightning res; 6M) Cospri's Will (Additional curse) Expediton's End (Nearby enemies chilled; 3M) Belly of the Beast (40% max life and 15% ele res for merc) Garb of the Ephemeral (Nearby enemies can't crit; 6M) & (Nearby allies min 100% action speed; 5M) Hunter prefix (Additional curse) Helmet Blood Price (Reserve 8% nearby enemy life; 3M) Thundersight (Sap enemies) Flamesight (Scorch enemies) Galesight (Brittle enemies) Crown of the Tyrant (Nearby -10 ele res, nearby allies +flat dmg; 6M) Leer Cast (Nearby 50% increased damage; 7.5M) Eye of Malice (Cold/Fire exposure, nearby 1.5x cold/fire res (can scale negative); 2.9M) Boots Windscream (Additional curse) Legacy of Fury (Nearby enemies scorched; 3M) Aura Range Dying Breath Victario's Charity Victario's Influence Approx distance to side of monitor on 16 : 9 - 8.5M So top/bottom would be right around 5M Conduit sharing range - 12M Most auras - 5.5M Soul Eater - 5M https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Distance#Nearby Eldritch implicits - exposure, unnerve, intimidate on hit In other news, I've been delving for the first time in years. It's kind of nostalgic being down here. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14047 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6178 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14047 Posts
You get your 8 mod Dunes map 2x monstrous lineage (for +80% magic pack size) 1x harvest doubling and a sacrifice fragment. https://poeplanner.com/atlas-tree/BQAUAACBAF8-Yw8klwBIsvrvumyZtOmGtCySeQDB7oQqZ77-xW2IwCo8WfNbMPpL34xBq032H16dzlpDdcn9TLqN6msxCguovCq72VvMt73a4_NgsuT3i-H5zM01taFuyB2PRsCe2AQ_Z2AqXtSPh53Qxpfi1bK12IKnKY3BWI45h1VZhlf8glGAdjfjAPnPR7fP4RAZCpvGXWvBQtoj4g5OG6LQBPxfSssXxSE1MJHOx10XULBI5uh-QA75GZQsSP21wa_l7Gtl9HpxC31tj-UDMBQXiAdB_jPGXtPVaSPCwnbZXKlDWta1YxGsoHFmH7SexBi5YkBobVbkM284ka_pJOlnudTQKBQAH4sIAAAAAAAAAwMAAAAAAAAAAAA= Something like that, but with a lot of flexibility. You just bum rush the boss, pop the shrines and then dive into the harvest. the trick is that you don't need bosses to spawn, you can get another harvest going really fast. What crop rotation does really well with all this juice is to spawn fat stacks of magic pack mobs. GGG is going to have to limit the 40% magic pack size scarb to 1 per to ruin this. This strategy is what brought Yellow Life Force from 20ish per c to 32 now. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10801 Posts
The loot is bonkers. The maps (and rolling them) are the most annoying bullshit I ever experienced and my build can run plenty of mods... Does anyone find these map mods "fun" or engaging? You're an idiot if you don't play these maps currency wise but whats the point if you hate your life for every second doing it? I acutally like my build but I hate that it's not really viable for Delve or Bossing (it can do them but it's annoying due to Spiders lifespan and the RNG with resummoning)... T17 were a mistake in their current form... T16.5 are the same mistake in a slightly diffrent form. | ||
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abuse
Latvia1934 Posts
On July 11 2025 17:46 Velr wrote: I got my Arakali Spiders finally in true endgame and did some T17 and T16.5. The loot is bonkers. The maps (and rolling them) are the most annoying bullshit I ever experienced and my build can run plenty of mods... Does anyone find these map mods "fun" or engaging? Your an idiot if you don't play these maps currency wise but whats the point if you hate your life for every second doing it? I acutally like my build but I hate that it's not really viable for Delve or Bossing (it can do them but it's annoying due to Spiders lifespan and the RNG with resummoning)... T17 were a mistake in their current form... T16.5 are the same mistake in a slightly diffrent form. Hey you bring up a good point and I honestly I just have one thing to say about it + Show Spoiler + *You're | ||
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Miragee
8590 Posts
On July 11 2025 17:46 Velr wrote: I got my Arakali Spiders finally in true endgame and did some T17 and T16.5. The loot is bonkers. The maps (and rolling them) are the most annoying bullshit I ever experienced and my build can run plenty of mods... Does anyone find these map mods "fun" or engaging? You're an idiot if you don't play these maps currency wise but whats the point if you hate your life for every second doing it? I acutally like my build but I hate that it's not really viable for Delve or Bossing (it can do them but it's annoying due to Spiders lifespan and the RNG with resummoning)... T17 were a mistake in their current form... T16.5 are the same mistake in a slightly diffrent form. I fixed the problem with bossing by allocating Replenishing Remedies via Impossible Escape. It frees up my annoint as well, because I can allocate another 24 reservation efficiency. That way you always have enough charges. I also leave a bit of an interval between summon row 1 and 2 so I don't lose all of them at once. However, summoning RNG can still be annoying sometimes if it somehow summons 18 instead of 20 or so... The modifiers on the maps can be annoying for sure. The Exarch/Sirus ground effects are a pain in the ass because they are so fucking dangerous and with all the shit happening you can barely see them. I decided to roll over those as soon as I see them now. I like the Elder slam effect though because it forces you to play differently but is clearly visible and gives you enough time to adjust. Then there are some things that just make the map feel like a slog. Like the -attack/cast/movement speed for, which I sometimes misread for additional speed for monsters and then wonder why I'm crawling across the map... I'm personally at the verge of stopping the league. Idk, normally I would be more engaged at this point, getting upgrades and so on. But it all feels stale. Doesn't help that minions are boring as fuck to play (yes, this is my first time playing minionsin PoE...). I could reroll my really strong Storm Call build from Settlers, which would be absolutely nuts with the new merc tech, but I don't feel like doing that... meh //just realised I played a minion build before: Holy Relic in Kalandra. But that league I quit super early and I hated that build. | ||
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Craton
United States17264 Posts
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haitike
Spain2719 Posts
But they overtuned the profit and you are kinda forced to do them despite being annoying. | ||
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Craton
United States17264 Posts
Once you remove the profitability, you have mods that are both completely unfun and pointless to ever keep. The path to ubers ends up even worse of a grind, will result in less people running them and therefore adding fragment scarity, and that in turn will make uber drops go up even more. If anything, uber drop prices need to fall by 2-3x for most desired items to get them in a good spot. The whole T17 system just sucks. It'd be so much better if they just canned the entire new mod pool and had completely separate mods for the map boss and the rest of the map, or just turned T17s into unique maps that are both off the atlas and have a specific range of mods (similar to synthesis). In my eyes it fits better to reduce the fragments needed per uber and reduce the amount of T17s in general (along with the above changes) as this also alleviates the problem of a lack of map variety. Dunno what you do for T16.5's. That system also sucks right now. It has all of the modpool problems plus the memory strand system is as bad (if not worse) than the old memories. It's painful to roll each map before running it. It's painful dealing with two separate map devices that don't share fragments. It's a crapshoot which altars you'll get and therefore synergizing with the atlas is painful. My problem is that when confronted with the question of "would you rather play maps with these mods or just play another game," it's the latter I'm often choosing. Anyway, on the more positive side, I do think putting the old memories as Kirac missions is a general positive that I think has gone pretty overlooked this league. There's definitely room for improvement here - I think the individual maps should be better (since you don't have all the extra IIQ/IIR that the memories had), plus some changes to obtaining the special maps. A new scouting report, special icons on the maps themselves, higher frequency of them appearing, etc. The current option of spamming regular reports or opening (but not running) kirac missions to force a reroll just isn't very good. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10801 Posts
On July 12 2025 00:22 Miragee wrote: I fixed the problem with bossing by allocating Replenishing Remedies via Impossible Escape. It frees up my annoint as well, because I can allocate another 24 reservation efficiency. That way you always have enough charges. I also leave a bit of an interval between summon row 1 and 2 so I don't lose all of them at once. However, summoning RNG can still be annoying sometimes if it somehow summons 18 instead of 20 or so... I fixed it now by constantly having the Worm ring in my inventory... If i lose all spiders and can't TP I swap it onto the Merc and pray that my Divine Ire will kill one sooner or later ^^. My next session will probably be filled with redoing my whole Aura setup... The tought of rerolling all socket colours and so on makes me cry a little inside when thinking about it but the potential gains seem very promising (i still run it like I did when I started T16's when the main issue was to "somehow" fit all the stuff in). Else... I think I found my way to make decent profits at an ok pace with Simulacrums because Harbinger got old. The invites are fast to farm (or 100c to buy) even on "a bit above Alch+Go" T16's and an unident Voices goes for 10 Div. Now thinking about redoing one Atlas tree... My Simul tree atm was just to have "something that doesn't need any interaction because I actually just want destructive play" . I guess you go Simulacrum + Alva and Harvest? | ||
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