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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-12 03:08:12
December 12 2024 02:57 GMT
#34641
https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hcb0hv/010d_patch_notes/

some good changes, esp dodge roll

apprently energy is completely kill. gl friends
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-12 05:08:13
December 12 2024 05:06 GMT
#34642
Yeah this one feels like they should've done free respecs. There's gonna be a lot of bricked builds out there. My initial impression is they went too far with the changes to the cast on ailment triggers; I'm not sure how useful they're going to be overall.
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6182 Posts
December 12 2024 10:46 GMT
#34643
they wont be used anymore. it cause so much spirit to equip them just to have them trigger once in a while
n_n
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8618 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-12 12:06:48
December 12 2024 11:37 GMT
#34644
On December 12 2024 11:57 EchelonTee wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hcb0hv/010d_patch_notes/

some good changes, esp dodge roll

apprently energy is completely kill. gl friends


"Leech has been buffed."

To see this line without any specifics after Jonathan and Mark stated how much iterations leech went through and that they now finally got it right is hilarious to me.

To the Energy build thing: Without having seen the build, there is a good chance it will still be playable with some teaks to the characters. Not saying that his is necessarily true, but there were so many nerfs in PoE in the past and players cried "unplayable" but it later turned out to be just fine or even still OP a league later without further patching...

//Edit: Is this patch even live? I'm only at 0.1.0c... Are people literally crying wolf before the patch is even out or am I missing something?

Well, I guess my client doesn't patch to 0.1.0d so I can't play, haha.^^
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22015 Posts
December 12 2024 12:13 GMT
#34645
On December 12 2024 20:37 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2024 11:57 EchelonTee wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hcb0hv/010d_patch_notes/

some good changes, esp dodge roll

apprently energy is completely kill. gl friends


"Leech has been buffed."

To see this line without any specifics after Jonathan and Mark stated how much iterations leech went through and that they now finally got it right is hilarious to me.

To the Energy build thing: Without having seen the build, there is a good chance it will still be playable with some teaks to the characters. Not saying that his is necessarily true, but there were so many nerfs in PoE in the past and players cried "unplayable" but it later turned out to be just fine or even still OP a league later without further patching...

//Edit: Is this patch even live? I'm only at 0.1.0c... Are people literally crying wolf before the patch is even out or am I missing something?

Well, I guess my client doesn't patch to 0.1.0d so I can't play, haha.^^
initial comments point to needing 50 frozen white mobs to trigger cast on freeze comet, while specced into energy.

To me that seems to make it pretty dead for mapping.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-12 14:32:05
December 12 2024 14:31 GMT
#34646
On December 12 2024 20:37 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2024 11:57 EchelonTee wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1hcb0hv/010d_patch_notes/

some good changes, esp dodge roll

apprently energy is completely kill. gl friends


"Leech has been buffed."

To see this line without any specifics after Jonathan and Mark stated how much iterations leech went through and that they now finally got it right is hilarious to me.

To the Energy build thing: Without having seen the build, there is a good chance it will still be playable with some teaks to the characters. Not saying that his is necessarily true, but there were so many nerfs in PoE in the past and players cried "unplayable" but it later turned out to be just fine or even still OP a league later without further patching...

//Edit: Is this patch even live? I'm only at 0.1.0c... Are people literally crying wolf before the patch is even out or am I missing something?

Well, I guess my client doesn't patch to 0.1.0d so I can't play, haha.^^

It's sadly actually unplayable now for map clear. Amusingly enough it was slightly buffed for bossing but that's not what I used it for at all.

To put it into context, I used spark to proc freeze and it took 2-4 casts to clear a pack with comets after freezes. I already used almost all possible freeze nodes on the try and the gem for extra freezes.

Gave it a quick shot and it took around 3-4 white packs that I killed with spark while they were almost permafrozen until the first comet proc'd.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9568 Posts
December 12 2024 15:31 GMT
#34647
It kinda deflated my desire to play when they nerfed cast on freeze comet sorc. Now granted, I barely got through Acts 1-3, but for me it was still several days of playtime, maybe not many hours, but then again I cannot play 8-12 hours a day like streamers can.
I might reroll lightning arrow deadeye or some type of warrior, but if they nerf the hell out of that, I'll take a long, hard break from PoE2.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-12 19:09:22
December 12 2024 19:07 GMT
#34648
The numbers I'm hearing is it went from ~2 casts to trigger to 20-30. From the clips I've seen it looks dead and buried.

I think it's another compounding problem: respec costs are too high, skill options for spells are too few, and rerolling is painful when the campaign is a very long slog. To quote Ben, "if the campaign stays this way forever, which I don't know if it will, but if it does, I'm only going to make one character per league, 100%."

This is the kind of change that affected a large number of people across multiple builds and characters. It's the perfect case for a free respec. Even setting that aside, it seems like they ought to just be giving weekly free respecs for the beginning of EA or setting the cost to 1%. It would make it a lot more possible to actually go out and experiment with things.

There's definitely a lot of fear from players simply because they don't know where the whackamole hammer will land. I'm actively trying to avoid any skill or character that's popular because they might brick my character without warning.

Right now we see time and time again someone finds something strong so people spec into that, they nerf it into the ground, and then all those people are just SOL. While nerfs in early EA are an expected occurrence, the way they're handling things right now is not very positive.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-12 20:10:37
December 12 2024 20:09 GMT
#34649
Worst part for the average player that tends to follow trends a bit more is that this hits them much harder than the "trendsetters" who get the specific build deep into maps for a few days before the hammer hits.

Really hopeful they add respecs for those patches, otherwise people will be really spooked about investing time. Also nerfs shouldn't be as harsh as when they're trying to "reshape the meta" between leagues, cof comet would still have been fine and playable with a 100% nerf even. Just 10x worse is a bit much.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
December 13 2024 06:22 GMT
#34650
yea big mistake to not add free respec. I know its EA but invalidating so much of people's time is a bad no matter the situation
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10827 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-13 08:24:54
December 13 2024 07:44 GMT
#34651
Played my Pathfinder into Maps and now started a Lightning/Cold-Sorc and the end of Act 2 is rough.

Any suggestions? I spam Spark/Flamewall and just try to somehow force myself thru it until I get to the bigger spells but dmg just fell off a cliff in the last few zones. I got the feeling the Dreadnought will be unfathomably harsh and how my dmg will ever kill the Boss is also unclear....
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9568 Posts
December 13 2024 08:10 GMT
#34652
On December 13 2024 16:44 Velr wrote:
Played my Pathfinder into Maps and now started a Lightning/Cold-Sorc and the end of Act 2 is rough.

Any suggestions? I spam Spark/Flamewall and just try to somehow force myself thru it until I get to the bigger spells but DMG just fell off a cliff in the last few zones. I got the feeling the Dreadnought will be unfathomably harsh and how my dmg will ever kill the Boss is also unclear....


The holy trifecta is sparks, firewall, frost bomb. Pick up the nodes on the left side that look like triforce, that give you +% damage to enemies affected per elemental ailment. Your enemies should pretty much be always affected by burning, shock and exposure from frost buildup.
You WILL get randomly 1-shotted by bosses and maybe even mobs, that's just a fact of life. Look for +% spell damage and +levels of all spells. Make sure your mana regen is OK, through skill passive nodes, necklace amulet and other ways.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10827 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-13 08:42:22
December 13 2024 08:41 GMT
#34653
Thanks, I allready do that and my Wands aren't too bad, my tree looks very good when compared to others, if anything I have a bit too much Manaregen atm.
I guess my main issue is that I started with going Lightning/Frost from the get go using the weapon set skills. So neither my Lightning nor my Frost stuff has taken off yet. Especially my Shock Chance on Spark seems way too low. From what i've seen from friends this is probably a harsh few levels for Sorceress in general and I made it even worse for myself ^^.

At worst I will have to get like 4-5 levels to get stuff from the big lightning cluster at the top of the tree for some more shock chance and later respecc out of it to specc back into it once I got the weapon swap points.
Well, will throw myself at it this evening .
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-13 09:13:36
December 13 2024 09:11 GMT
#34654
idk if this is the issue but sometimes skill gem drop RNG can seriously affect how a run feels. I was suffering big time end of A2/A3 but once I got the gems things were sailing again

Is Ranger fun? I wanted to wait until rideable rhoas before playing it, but idk how long that will take. Not really sure what to play next. Anyone really loved their class? I been playing Titan and its super fun for me
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10827 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-13 09:40:38
December 13 2024 09:38 GMT
#34655
Poison-Pathfinder was ok to level. It relies very much on your physical damage and the second Ascendancy, I did Act 2 and half of Act 3 with a 19-32 dmg bow and that was pretty rough but thanks to being poison the damage was at least reliable and I could kite staff for all eternity. After I got an upgrade and did the second trial (right before doryani) things improved massively. Cruel was a joke. I did a few T1/2 maps and had no issues, DMG was plenty fine, cruel Doryani just melted.

Ranger/Lightning-Bow-Skills seem to be very strong damage wise at the moment but I haven't played that.

Both have no defenses and are evasion based... If your ok with being a glass cannon, they are both very viable.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6182 Posts
December 13 2024 09:44 GMT
#34656
im so close to just top playing, cant get any upgrade, dmg suck ass and i get 2 shoot by everything :\

n_n
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10827 Posts
December 13 2024 10:09 GMT
#34657
How far into maps are you?

I just assumed Maps will get horribly rippy so I decided to start another char.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6182 Posts
December 13 2024 12:55 GMT
#34658
im start the second act2
n_n
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8618 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-13 14:21:25
December 13 2024 14:20 GMT
#34659
On December 13 2024 21:55 FaCE_1 wrote:
im start the second act2


What are you playing? Still spark/arc?

In general there are some weird difficulty spikes in some areas. Especially the final couples areas before each act boss are extremely harsh with spiky damage and subsequent stuns. In cruel, both in A1 and A2, I died like 10 times on my way to the boss in the final zone, only to delete the boss without a problem. There will probably be some tweaking down the line but it's honestly expected because this is beta. I also assume they kinda did this on purpose to let the players know if their build was "ready" for the big boss, instead of letting them breeze through the zone, only to get stuck on the boss.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
December 13 2024 14:21 GMT
#34660
I decided my first playthrough is gonna be SSF to really enjoy the game and not rush through min maxing. Does it makes sense to join the guild then? Not sure how that is gonna work
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