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Yeah tbh, I feel like SSF, either HC or not, is already pretty restrictive if you want to make gearing longer and possibly more satisfying. This seems a bit crazy brutal
No gem vendor makes heist very valuable if it still works. Tbh I don't mind that too much, esp if you play trade ruthless. Anyone member old days of Reduced mana and added chaos gem being worth a lot?
Things I don't like are no movement skills and no instilling/enkindling orbs. Can't imagine some endgame encounters with no flame dash.. how tf you do sirus? And flask enchantments are such a nice QoL. I'd probably forced to use a ToS mod to save my hands
I think I'll try it if a league mechanic seems unfun, so I don't feel like going to late endgame
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On November 03 2022 00:15 EchelonTee wrote:
Things I don't like are no movement skills and no instilling/enkindling orbs. Can't imagine some endgame encounters with no flame dash.. how tf you do sirus? And flask enchantments are such a nice QoL. I'd probably forced to use a ToS mod to save my hands
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3320651/page/18#p24799566
Looks like they're considering stuff like this and considering changing the core game at least. I assume sirius meteor gets the same treatment.
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Anyone else playing Mayhem HC? I havent played hc in ages, currently at lvl 82 or 83, I think. Went for Trickster and am currently playing ED/Contagion like in the good old days, but it kinda feels terrible. Dmg seems very lackluster (maybe because Im still on a 4link?).
Im using Contagion linked to inc AoE and Intensify, but the AoE still feels suuuuper small. ED is linked to void manip, controlled destruction and swift afliction. Im running Doom cast and a second 4link in Bane with Despair and Temp Chains (+Void Manip since it was a green socket  ), which I find kind of neat. Wither totems are also up and running, although I have burned all my chromatics trying to get 2R2B on my Eva/ES Helmet, so my spell totems are not linked to faster casting yet.
Any tips on what the best way of scaling dmg would be? My survivability seems to be fine, maybe I even over-invested, but I tried to stay on the safer side given that mayhem can be quite scary and I havent touched hc in forever (last time was before the expansion introducing the actual atlas.... ). Character can be found here. Im still missing endgame lab, but I simply havent found any offerings, so that would be a pretty huge dmg boost in itself.
Also contagion AoE just seems suuuuper low.. Presumably the chains will start feeling better once the dmg improves, but it certainly isnt what it used to be... Is it worth investing into the 30% AoE on the tree? It's probably additive with Inc AoE and Intensify supports, so presumably it doesnt really do an awful lot?
Or is ED/Contagion simply bad nowadays and it's better to go Soulrend?
I think it's quite clear the character has many holes to patch up, for example I still need to get spell suppression on my gear to actually get to 100%, but progress is a lot slower than on sc since Im trying to stay safe and actually make it to 85 and a 6link before yellow maps... I gotta admit that I really enjoy the slower playstyle. I certainly wouldnt mind if PoE was always like this, maybe I will go back to Group Self found HC after all.
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Congratz on reaching 84 on HC! The event is kind of rough.
Think most have switched to SC in latter years...
ED/Contaigion became less and less popular, so not many people playing or making guides.
Chaos damage usually scaled by gem level. (you can get +1 to chaos gems on ilvl75+ amulets btw)
Your tree is not particularly well optimized, can save at least 1 point connecting through the other small node near Soul Thief.
Use the bench to re colour.
You can check radius in Path of Building.
Trials now appear in yellow maps btw.
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I tried Mayhem and it's not for me. The chaos of 20 Spirits, Rogue Exiles or Invasion bosses is fun for a bit but the other mechanics are not. Harbingers are just obnoxious. Delirium is whatever, I don't like Breach anyways. Those two and strongboxes don't really fit in this mode because they give you the choice to skip them, unless you accidentally click one of the many strongboxes...
I don't really get the outcry about the difficulty (and no reward). Does everything need to give you a reward these days? I don't get it. Yes it is tough sometimes if you randomly hit phys as extra and multi-proj or something like that. But it just one damn 10-day voided event. Either play it because you enjoy the challenge or don't. And it is not even that hard tbh. I remember getting one-shot by a single invasion boss in The Coast on launch day. Nowadays we fight 20 bosses in that zone and it's not even that scary... I think people have just forgotten (this includes myself) how to play carefully, especially when there are extra dangers your char is not equipped for yet.
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ED contagion is still good but i prefer just going for bane +ED
For this even i went full Soulrend and i just hit 90 (trade leauge)
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On November 09 2022 03:22 nukem1 wrote:
Congratz on reaching 84 on HC! The event is kind of rough.
Thanks, so far it was very smooth, didnt really have any close calls (didnt log a single time except on crimson township boss who is an absolute jerk on ED/Contagion... Guess I will simply level to 90 and then call it quits.
ED/Contaigion became less and less popular, so not many people playing or making guides.
Chaos damage usually scaled by gem level. (you can get +1 to chaos gems on ilvl75+ amulets btw)
Is there a good way of crafting for +1 Amulet/Wand/Shield?
Your tree is not particularly well optimized, can save at least 1 point connecting through the other small node near Soul Thief.
Thanks for pointing that out. Looking at my tree again, I realised I did not actually take Death&Decay, simply overlooked it during leveling hahaha.
Use the bench to re colour.
I did. Used the vorici calculator to check the most efficient way of recolouring, but no dice. On 4 socks 51Dex/51Int requirement (which I had), the calculator still lists an average of 65.8 chromes.. I'm wayyy up in the hundreds, so I guess I simply got rather unlucky. 
You can check radius in Path of Building.
Not entirely sure, what you mean by that. I know that I can check the radius in PoB, I guess this is a reply to my general feeling of "is it worth picking up additional AoE on the tree", but I think it's fairly difficult to tell what an increase in radius will actually feel like ingame just from the numbers, since one basically has to have "enough" radius to guarantee decent chains.
Trials now appear in yellow maps btw.
Aha! Thanks for pointing that out to me.. In SC I always just push maps so fast that I never think about that, since I most white maps are only run once for completion.... Totally did not have that change in my mind. :D
Aside from that progress has been steady. Build feels very survivable, although there are still some holes to be patched.
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Reworked Trickster is pretty tanky (was before too, but had lost some of the flavour)
Is there a good way of crafting for +1 Amulet/Wand/Shield?
I'm not knowledgeable enough to give more advanced crafting advice, but there is a simple recipe for +1 weapon - just need gems that have a total of 40% quality
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I did. Used the vorici calculator to check the most efficient way of recolouring, but no dice. On 4 socks 51Dex/51Int requirement (which I had), the calculator still lists an average of 65.8 chromes.. I'm wayyy up in the hundreds, so I guess I simply got rather unlucky.
oh, no, RIP chromes >.<
I meant use the bench to force from 2 to 3 sockets (and then 4), since it's cheaper to use jewellers. chrome for 2 sockets, it's always the first ones on the item and then spam 3 socket to 2 and back until you have right colour, proceed the same way for 4th
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Not entirely sure, what you mean by that. I know that I can check the radius in PoB, I guess this is a reply to my general feeling of "is it worth picking up additional AoE on the tree", but I think it's fairly difficult to tell what an increase in radius will actually feel like ingame just from the numbers, since one basically has to have "enough" radius to guarantee decent chains.
it was just to give you and idea of the area. you can always try it ingame (npcs sell regrets if needed), it's not gonna be as big as it was (that's what she said), think the radius got nerfed a couple of leagues ago(?)
hope you have fun and maybe win something! ^^
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oh, no, RIP chromes >.<
Ye, I thought of that, but it was pretty much the only difficult colours to get and I thought I easily had enough chromes, so I wanted to keep the jewellers instead, since I was extremely starved for Jewellers and Fusings... Restrospectively that was a rather bad call, but what can you do haha.
hope you have fun and maybe win something! ^^
Given that there aren't that many players in Mayhem HC, I think I'm pretty set to win basically everything (aside from actually making top6 because I dont see that happening with the limited amount of time I have after work)
In other news I just dropped a Doedre's Damning, so my Bane is applying tripple curse on a 4link, not sure if I have to report to the ethics council... :>
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For +1 chaos amulets I would assume harvest is the best option because you can reforge chaos, with only one other chaos mod (res) in the pool. That's how I would attempt it but I'm a complete scrub when it comes to crafting so looking up a guide is probably the better option.
It's also easier to get chaos dot multi on your gloves now using eldritch embers.
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Died on 89 with 60% to a Crushclaw with 4 Archnem mods: Tukohama-touched, Entangler, Vampiric and Deadeye. Simply got killed by the multihitting shockwave (I got a bit cocky, I guess). Since nothing came even close to scratching me, I did not do correct counterplay and got caught (maybe even crit, who knows) without flasks due to the thing being insanely tanky...
Well, it was a fun experience. And I guess that means I can focus on my work today. ;>
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Dam, jsut realized they star the delve event on a Monday.. T___T
That suck on so many level.
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That's weird. Until now they always started events on fridays.
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@ Joni - RIP brave warrior, had fun died a hero :D
That suck on so many level. was that a pun?
mayhem is 10 days and started on a Friday. each subsequent event is 7 days, but delayed because of the extra 3 days
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No but now that you mentionned, it could be
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Been playing some endless delve HC, went for a CoC (Blazing Salvo for now) setup on a raider using the starting dagger. Perma Onslaught and Phasing feel amazing, but my only recovery is basically from life flasks... Probably that's why so many people choose to play CoC with Claw and a Helix instead? Is there some simple way to get some life recovery? Didnt really see any life on spell hit, but I could get life on attack hit for a couple of points on the tree.
Dmg sucks as well, at least when it comes to single target enemies with high fire res. Not sure what to do about that, but also not too worried about it, since Im still on a 4link. The eventual plan is dual CoC with Blazing Salvo+Eye of Winter. How does one even get to a 5/6link in delve? Feels like Im basically not getting any fusings. Armor nodes dont really seem to offer much in the way of linked armor either. Any tips? :D
Anyway, reached lvl 84 yesterday, delving around at mlvl ~75. Some things are starting to become scary (vulnerability rogue exile camp is wuags) and Burning Ground is being a humungous b*tch.
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Looks like the redditors won... Well, I don't really care tbh. The new system sounds superior anyways, so it's a win-win. I'm a bit scared about the jewel changes and them possibly removing niche jewels. Or even important ones like replica conquerer's efficiency, which was pretty vital for rage vortex for example.
On November 16 2022 16:57 Joni_ wrote:
Been playing some endless delve HC, went for a CoC (Blazing Salvo for now) setup on a raider using the starting dagger. Perma Onslaught and Phasing feel amazing, but my only recovery is basically from life flasks... Probably that's why so many people choose to play CoC with Claw and a Helix instead? Is there some simple way to get some life recovery? Didnt really see any life on spell hit, but I could get life on attack hit for a couple of points on the tree.
Dmg sucks as well, at least when it comes to single target enemies with high fire res. Not sure what to do about that, but also not too worried about it, since Im still on a 4link. The eventual plan is dual CoC with Blazing Salvo+Eye of Winter. How does one even get to a 5/6link in delve? Feels like Im basically not getting any fusings. Armor nodes dont really seem to offer much in the way of linked armor either. Any tips? :D
Anyway, reached lvl 84 yesterday, delving around at mlvl ~75. Some things are starting to become scary (vulnerability rogue exile camp is wuags) and Burning Ground is being a humungous b*tch.
Raider is my favourite for this type of event. It offers speed, phasing and easy access to spell suppression and ailment immunity. I didn't prepare anything so I just picked my cold dot raider pob from last time.
Life on spell hit is rare. Off of the top of my head it's on shaper influenced rings and cybill's paw. I usually go for a mix of life gain on kill (Blood Drinker, Hired Killer) and some life regen. What attack are you using? life gain on attack hit is certainly an option.
As for armour, I don't know. I would aim for armour nodes, maybe get a good corrupted outcome... This is another reason why I like to pick cold dot here because I can go for a while on multiple 4L settings.
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On November 18 2022 01:50 Miragee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2022 16:57 Joni_ wrote:
Been playing some endless delve HC, went for a CoC (Blazing Salvo for now) setup on a raider using the starting dagger. Perma Onslaught and Phasing feel amazing, but my only recovery is basically from life flasks... Probably that's why so many people choose to play CoC with Claw and a Helix instead? Is there some simple way to get some life recovery? Didnt really see any life on spell hit, but I could get life on attack hit for a couple of points on the tree.
Dmg sucks as well, at least when it comes to single target enemies with high fire res. Not sure what to do about that, but also not too worried about it, since Im still on a 4link. The eventual plan is dual CoC with Blazing Salvo+Eye of Winter. How does one even get to a 5/6link in delve? Feels like Im basically not getting any fusings. Armor nodes dont really seem to offer much in the way of linked armor either. Any tips? :D
Anyway, reached lvl 84 yesterday, delving around at mlvl ~75. Some things are starting to become scary (vulnerability rogue exile camp is wuags) and Burning Ground is being a humungous b*tch. Raider is my favourite for this type of event. It offers speed, phasing and easy access to spell suppression and ailment immunity. I didn't prepare anything so I just picked my cold dot raider pob from last time. Life on spell hit is rare. Off of the top of my head it's on shaper influenced rings and cybill's paw. I usually go for a mix of life gain on kill (Blood Drinker, Hired Killer) and some life regen. What attack are you using? life gain on attack hit is certainly an option. As for armour, I don't know. I would aim for armour nodes, maybe get a good corrupted outcome... This is another reason why I like to pick cold dot here because I can go for a while on multiple 4L settings.
That sounds.. Interesting, I guess? Built basically like Cold DoT Occultist? Do you have a PoB for that, I could look at?
Funnily enough, I died on my raider and have since gone on Cold DoT Occultist, which just died half an hour ago, just after I acquired my first 5link, at depth ~150 lvl 87 or so.... Was incredibly smooth compared to Raider, but I simply got oneshot by Chaosweaver+Tukohama+Soul Eater+Hasted lion delve mob. Non-telegraphed autoattack and suddenly I was looking at my own corpse. Guess the Chaos dmg got me.
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Occultist is probably a lot better damage-wise but you are very dependend on lucky flask drops. Running Occultist without quicksilver and quartz flask is super annoying and dangerous imho. Last time I found my first quartz at 86 and my first quicksilver very late as well... This is my rough PoB: https://pastebin.com/2SH4g5EN
Lots of room to play around though.
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