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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
November 17 2022 23:48 GMT
#33761
ironically Drought Bringer made it easy to get flasks in SSF, but that is kill now

for the best overall for sure but yeah xD
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8657 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-19 08:40:13
November 18 2022 22:05 GMT
#33762
On November 18 2022 08:48 EchelonTee wrote:
ironically Drought Bringer made it easy to get flasks in SSF, but that is kill now

for the best overall for sure but yeah xD


As far as I understood, the loot conversion mods will still be in place but random and hidden. They will also redestribute some of the loot to generic monsters to make the loot less spiky. This means you will still randomly encounter a pile of flasks dropping from a rare in reduced quantity compared to now. Should still be nice for SSF in my mind but we will see how it will play out.

//edit: Ok, I didn't read the FAQ, they are removing flask conversion...

Playing Endless Delve right now, this is the first time I seriously have less fun with archnemesis. Kind of ironic. Hitting a brick wall at a node because everything dies but a frostweaver, rejuvenating, soul eater or something like, which I can't even scratch...that is frustrating. The ground effects are, which I lamented before, are also more annoying in delve to the point I just logged out and made a new attempt at the node praying for less shit on the ground... Now I'm even more glad they are making these changes.
I also realised two things I really like about this mode. One is the progression and constant problem solving. It's really satisfying to think of solution with the limited options given. This is coupled with the second point - habitats and reward nodes - make it very different from normal PoE. Depending on what solution you chose you can then aim for certain nodes and have a good chance of getting what you need. This makes it exciting and satisfying because there is exploration, I feel excited to see a node I was looking for and even if I don't get what I need it's not that frustrating because there is a good chance I will get it soon enough. I think this kind of system or something similar could be fun in other areas of the game as well. Maybe in maps to give them more of a flair (and attach monster types to certain maps as well, while at it, so the monster composition isn't almost completely random). Atm. maps lack identity because what differs is only layout and the boss (and div cards but w/e...).
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-27 07:24:11
November 27 2022 06:32 GMT
#33763


if you want to see what Ruthless looks like

its kinda hilarious but I want to play it LOL. seems like it would get old really quickly tho

DoT builds with multiple skills seem dominant, probably ruins the mode tbh
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
nukem1
Profile Joined October 2010
345 Posts
November 27 2022 11:31 GMT
#33764
I've been watching streamers play Ruthless since the NDA was lifted. Would love to try it out, but probably through the acts only (preferably, with some of the guildies).

Like others have mentioned, it seems more tedious than challenging. Even though I've been playing PoE for a (really) long time, I'm still kind of a scrub. My goal each league is basically experience the league mechanic, try out some new builds, get carried through the tougher bosses (thanks everyone, especially Woo ^^) and then watch others basically steamroll.

In my opinion, this would be more suited for those who play constantly throughout the league.

Many are playing cold dots because most of(?) the gems can be gained through missions. There was an initial review on Reddit and the guy played that and provided a frame for how to navigate the game. It's also tanky and well balanced.

I guess opinions will vary quite a bit, also depending on how strong D2 nostalgia you feel and the time you first started playing PoE.

Please share your thoughts (if you have any), I'm interested in hearing what people here think about Ruthless.
https://tudorpc.wordpress.com/
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-27 18:11:06
November 27 2022 18:10 GMT
#33765
It's flat out brutal, the gem changes alone are huge but I remember when that was normal. Then the drops are super low, you don't get alt shards from vendoring which is extremely rough.

And did you see the atlas passive tree? :D Map sustain is hard and if you want to buff it with the passive tree, you have to suffer from making the monsters stronger.

I honestly don't mind it all. Some people will like it, and it seems like a fun mode for standard.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8657 Posts
December 01 2022 19:37 GMT
#33766
Anybody watching the announcement stream? First thoughts:

- league mechanic sounds great, bringing a HC feature to SC again without being fatal. loved this in Heist. also not as dependent on the build it seems.
- QoL, balance, items etc. all seem fairly good.
- Ruthless we knew about but it seems like a great addition to the game to me. Play the 3 month league and Ruthless permanent.
- Cadiro should not be hidden behind a pay wall.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-01 22:44:43
December 01 2022 20:33 GMT
#33767
I can't see the stuff cus the website crashed. lots of interest in this league it seems

e: new league looks really, really good. It's gotta be better than Kalandra, right? :^)

Fracturing orb from harbinger I really love. Harb is one of my fav league mechanics and it sucked how it was bad after exalt/divine change. And fracturing + essence is a fairly low stress way of making good items

Nightblade + related attack skills (lightning strike, helix) seem to be gutted. Kinda sad cus I loved those builds but probably for the best. I'm skeptical if the new melee replacement (e.g. Vaal Cleave) will be good enough, but maybe with the buffed uniques

overall looks cool. I won't be able to play much cus of holidays but seems like a return to form for GGG. Will have to see
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-02 03:52:25
December 02 2022 03:51 GMT
#33768
On December 02 2022 04:37 Miragee wrote:

- league mechanic sounds great, bringing a HC feature to SC again without being fatal. loved this in Heist. also not as dependent on the build it seems.


Yeah, the rogue-lite minigame seems fun - will be interesting to see how the resolve loss revolves around not getting hit etc re: different builds and positioning, screen clutter, etc.

On December 02 2022 05:33 EchelonTee wrote:
Fracturing orb from harbinger I really love. Harb is one of my fav league mechanics and it sucked how it was bad after exalt/divine change. And fracturing + essence is a fairly low stress way of making good items


This seems like a great change (and more interesting than "Divine Shards"). Keen to see the revamped atlas tree.

Finding it hard to find time for PoE at the moment with a young family etc, but will keep an eye on things.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Kaz1
Profile Joined April 2015
35 Posts
December 02 2022 18:51 GMT
#33769
On November 27 2022 15:32 EchelonTee wrote:
DoT builds with multiple skills seem dominant, probably ruins the mode tbh


This is the inevitable result for hard modes like this.
We ran into the same issue in the D2 mod Hell Unleashed. Poision was not touched for a long time due to the strength of other builds, but as these builds were nerfed a bit, poison became the goto in most cases. Eventually we had to come and address several issues with it...but really no matter what we did besides utterly gutting it, it remained extremely strong mechanic.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8657 Posts
December 03 2022 14:22 GMT
#33770
On December 02 2022 12:51 Haasts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2022 04:37 Miragee wrote:

- league mechanic sounds great, bringing a HC feature to SC again without being fatal. loved this in Heist. also not as dependent on the build it seems.


Yeah, the rogue-lite minigame seems fun - will be interesting to see how the resolve loss revolves around not getting hit etc re: different builds and positioning, screen clutter, etc.

Show nested quote +
On December 02 2022 05:33 EchelonTee wrote:
Fracturing orb from harbinger I really love. Harb is one of my fav league mechanics and it sucked how it was bad after exalt/divine change. And fracturing + essence is a fairly low stress way of making good items


This seems like a great change (and more interesting than "Divine Shards"). Keen to see the revamped atlas tree.

Finding it hard to find time for PoE at the moment with a young family etc, but will keep an eye on things.


To me it looked like there aren't as many monsters in the Sanctum. If I got it correctly, Chris also mentioned in the interview (when asked about atlas passives and drops) that the monsters in the Sanctum are unique. This leads me to believe we will generally see less enemies, less screen clutter and more telegraphs and active dodging (rather than the usualy "just keep moving regardless of what happens on screen"). Maybe I'm too hopeful here though.

Fractured orbs sound great. They will be hella expensive though.

Also congrats to becoming a parent, best wishes. =)
nukem1
Profile Joined October 2010
345 Posts
December 06 2022 13:26 GMT
#33771
Is anyone else just whelmed about the challenge rewards?

I'm also surprised about the positive way this league mechanic is being seen.

@Haasts congrats and good luck on this new adventure :D
https://tudorpc.wordpress.com/
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8657 Posts
December 06 2022 16:24 GMT
#33772
On December 06 2022 22:26 nukem1 wrote:
Is anyone else just whelmed about the challenge rewards?


Better than last league but not for me.

I think there is a huge audience for rogue-likes, people liked Haydes etc. But wait until league start. People will probably play and within 24h cry about how hard it is, bugs, that you can't blast through it or w/e.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-06 17:12:06
December 06 2022 17:01 GMT
#33773
I'm pretty hyped for the league. Call me dumb, but after playing Artillery Ballista Chieftain last league and having a good time, I'm pretty set on playing (Vaal) Double Strike Champion. Only thing that makes me a sad is how it seems like the "boys" are terrible nowadays, at least compared to how they used to be. Would probably be more wise to play Boneshatter for strike skills or possible even Smite, but hey it should be ok. PoB at least lets me get decent damage numbers with capped spell suppression, lots of armor, fortify and ~50% attack block. Should be working fine if I manage to play it long enough to gear it decently.

Last time I remember actually playing Double Strike / Cleave was in the end of closed beta or something. Also on a Duelist.

Also am I right thinking The Saviour in offhand isn't very good on skills that attack with both hands? I think I'm set on trying to get Paradoxica and use a shield.
nukem1
Profile Joined October 2010
345 Posts
December 06 2022 19:17 GMT
#33774
I think Rue is planning a pob for Champ smite. Just looking at some older clips got me interested, but it's still melee >.> Have not played bonk skills since...forever, honestly.

Waggle was testing sabo hexblast traps, though it looked a bit janky. He was struggling to get curse on hit gloves to make it work. Have seen people try occultist hexblast mines and the play style is eh.

Are you sure it was Cleave and not Sweep?

@Miragee, agree.
The sanctum areas look like Heist with even fewer mobs. Maybe they should have just brought back Descent.
https://tudorpc.wordpress.com/
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8657 Posts
December 06 2022 20:12 GMT
#33775
Ah, Double Strike Duelist was one of my first chars. Still have him (lvl 79 HC^^).

I'm not sure what I want to play. Was looking at Fire Trap ignite or Rage Vortex but they nerfed the latter for no apparent reason and I'm not sure Fire Trap will do well in the sanctum... blegh
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 07 2022 19:46 GMT
#33776
New gem info is out. Hmmm, Frost Blades is getting buffed. That's a strike too and one with ridiculous clear speed... That's tempting. But I think the gearing is more easy with double strike and the boss dmg too.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
December 08 2022 13:08 GMT
#33777
I recently started PoE (after giving it a brief try a long time ago [my CPU back then could not handle the game in the later stages]), I followed Pohx' RF guide because it was the most noob friendly guide I could find. He set the bar pretty high though and I think I can progress with being a bit less handheld anyway.

I'll just follow a random guide that looks fun in hope it works and brings me currencies so I can try my own stuff.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-08 21:09:51
December 08 2022 21:09 GMT
#33778
yeah pohx's guides are incredibly thorough but still easy to follow. I'm thinking about RF for a ruthless start since its a 4L build

the meta hasn't changed much, it's been pretty "figured out" so as long as its not a sketch guide (like those Standard blasting hyper geared builds) should work out



https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/zfo6kq/wr_level_100_in_51_minutes/

This was sick
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8657 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-08 22:01:38
December 08 2022 21:55 GMT
#33779
What do you reckon: Will Frozen Legion work with Fanaticism? Generally I would say no, however, since there is no minion tag, I'm not sure if the statues are actually considered their own entity...
Atm. I'm leaning towards a cold hit build. If normal defenses don't work vs resolve-damaging attacks, I assume freezing enemies will still prevent those attacks from happening.

//edit: Btw. does anybody know what's up with PoB? No updates in sight?

On December 09 2022 06:09 EchelonTee wrote:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/zfo6kq/wr_level_100_in_51_minutes/

This was sick


Yeah, I thought it was 1 day when I clicked the video. Pretty insane.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
December 09 2022 11:10 GMT
#33780
Trying to figure out how feasible Blade Trap Trickster is in SSF without Ephemeral Edge, absurd ES gear, and Forbidden jewels - I didn't play a giant amount of 3.19, but I understand uniques are slightly harder to come by, and Gwennen/chancing are no longer viable - or did that mainly hit T0 uniques rather than, say, Ephemeral Edge?
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