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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
April 15 2021 10:38 GMT
#32881
When I looked into it levelling Ascendant Exsanguinate looked a bit painful simply because so many damage nodes aren't close. Damage seems workable in maps but single target just seems okay-ish?
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-15 13:49:03
April 15 2021 10:49 GMT
#32882
On April 15 2021 19:38 r.Evo wrote:
When I looked into it levelling Ascendant Exsanguinate looked a bit painful simply because so many damage nodes aren't close. Damage seems workable in maps but single target just seems okay-ish?

Yes, leveling would indeed be super painful. Will it be good in maps? Probably. Single target we shall see.

Worst thing is gem swapping, I think Chain will be super good for clear but needs to be swapped for bosses.

I think I'll be using MoM with very low mana just against DoT. Petrified Blood is probably trash until you somehow get Leech (not many sources for spells left )but whatever.

I have no idea how to fit in all the gems though... That's my biggest issue. Would be easier if I skip Corrupting Fever or keep it as a 1L, but idk if that's a good idea.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
April 15 2021 14:47 GMT
#32883
If you wanna go ED, I'll suggest you start with a spellsligner setup to start and you can swap to selft cast when starting red map.

For a fun caster, I had lots of fun with Arc, and the Vaal Arc got a buff so it can be better.
And you can use a Impulsa (I think it's the name) for your explo armor.
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
April 15 2021 15:11 GMT
#32884
I made a scuffed ground slam champion in PoB basing it on Zizaran's character from Heist, I just need to do all corrupted zones during leveling and hope for a vaal ground slam drop (or buy one from the market) Sad thing is that due to flesh and stone nerf I won't be able to fit blood and sand into the build, at least not initially without a couple enlightens and probably a reservation passive on the tree.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Joni_
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany352 Posts
April 15 2021 17:09 GMT
#32885
On April 16 2021 00:11 PoulsenB wrote:
I made a scuffed ground slam champion in PoB basing it on Zizaran's character from Heist, I just need to do all corrupted zones during leveling and hope for a vaal ground slam drop (or buy one from the market) Sad thing is that due to flesh and stone nerf I won't be able to fit blood and sand into the build, at least not initially without a couple enlightens and probably a reservation passive on the tree.

Why not just throw a couple of Vaal Orbs at Ground Slams until you hit a Vaal Ground Slam?^^
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
April 15 2021 18:05 GMT
#32886
On April 16 2021 02:09 Joni_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2021 00:11 PoulsenB wrote:
I made a scuffed ground slam champion in PoB basing it on Zizaran's character from Heist, I just need to do all corrupted zones during leveling and hope for a vaal ground slam drop (or buy one from the market) Sad thing is that due to flesh and stone nerf I won't be able to fit blood and sand into the build, at least not initially without a couple enlightens and probably a reservation passive on the tree.

Why not just throw a couple of Vaal Orbs at Ground Slams until you hit a Vaal Ground Slam?^^

Look at mister "I drop vaal orbs while leveling" here xD Seriously though this is an option I'm aware of as well, don't worry
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8505 Posts
April 15 2021 18:31 GMT
#32887
There is this patch note though: "Vaal Skill Gems can now only be obtained from a set of specific methods such as Vaal Side Areas, Divination Cards (that specifically grant Vaal Skill Gems) and the Lapidary Lens in the Temple of Atzoatl." Doesn't mention Vaal Orbs but I assume they are targeting other drops such as league mechanics?
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-15 18:37:54
April 15 2021 18:37 GMT
#32888
I think they already clarified in a different post or tweet or something that you can still get them from Vaaling gems the normal way too. That list was just incomplete. My guess was you just wont see them from other league mechanics like you mentioned
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8505 Posts
April 15 2021 18:47 GMT
#32889
On April 16 2021 03:37 Duka08 wrote:
I think they already clarified in a different post or tweet or something that you can still get them from Vaaling gems the normal way too. That list was just incomplete. My guess was you just wont see them from other league mechanics like you mentioned


Yeah, that was my guess, too, since the wording is "such as", but I wasn't 100% sure. If they clarified it that's good.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
April 16 2021 00:10 GMT
#32890
I tried a couple Scion Miner A1-2 runs and uhh... holy crap I'm so much faster as Shadow.

RIP Scion dreams.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-16 02:56:03
April 16 2021 02:55 GMT
#32891
I've been busy and just now catching up on all the news. Totally unprepared for launch xD

going to play HC trade with some sort of melee build, no clue
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
April 16 2021 03:39 GMT
#32892
On April 15 2021 19:03 r.Evo wrote:
ED/Contagion or Mines for me I think.

If someone has a cool caster league start suggestion I'd be all ears though. I do feel like this league has pretty harsh requirements on decent builds though. Some things like BV felt like they got carried hard by explody chests.

Farming stuff like A9 on ED would be miserable still I presume? What kinda mines are hot these days?

I don't know if it got nerfed or changed, but typically you would do Chaos Slinger (ED + friends) and it's super duper fast. It takes a lot of inventory micro though, due to all the socket pressure
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Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany819 Posts
April 16 2021 06:57 GMT
#32893
On April 16 2021 12:39 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2021 19:03 r.Evo wrote:
ED/Contagion or Mines for me I think.

If someone has a cool caster league start suggestion I'd be all ears though. I do feel like this league has pretty harsh requirements on decent builds though. Some things like BV felt like they got carried hard by explody chests.

Farming stuff like A9 on ED would be miserable still I presume? What kinda mines are hot these days?

I don't know if it got nerfed or changed, but typically you would do Chaos Slinger (ED + friends) and it's super duper fast. It takes a lot of inventory micro though, due to all the socket pressure


yeah, when i played ed/cont trickster last time (in harvest), i used spellslinger until maybe t8-t10 maps. the damage felt kinda meh by then, missing malevolence and stuff.

After the switch and some gearing up, i had contagion on 4L, ED in 5L essence crafted gloves, and blight as a 6L for single target. Pushing ED damage and contagion aoe felt best. Gotta get enough damage on ED that one ED kills at least any rare mob in a legion, and everything is fine.

It was also (with an OG glancing blows, but still) the easiest and safest a8 sirus killer i ever played. not the fastest, but for sure the safest. That "sirus throws balls at you between 2 walls" phase was pretty much "stand there, free damage".

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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
April 16 2021 06:58 GMT
#32894
On April 16 2021 00:11 PoulsenB wrote:
I made a scuffed ground slam champion in PoB basing it on Zizaran's character from Heist, I just need to do all corrupted zones during leveling and hope for a vaal ground slam drop (or buy one from the market) Sad thing is that due to flesh and stone nerf I won't be able to fit blood and sand into the build, at least not initially without a couple enlightens and probably a reservation passive on the tree.

I might end up not running flesh and stone and just link maim with my warchief. Not sure what the best aura setup is for a slamboi now.

On April 16 2021 11:55 EchelonTee wrote:
I've been busy and just now catching up on all the news. Totally unprepared for launch xD

going to play HC trade with some sort of melee build, no clue

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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 16 2021 07:10 GMT
#32895
I think you also just could use Maim on main link with Ground Slam, even if that sounds bad. Reason is, Fist of War does not work with Vaal Ground Slam, and given the numbers of Vaal Ground Slam, I would think it's all you need for bosses so you should try to fully support it.

So what are the gem options then? VGS + Brutality + Pulverise + Melee Physical Damage + Impale + Maim / Ruthless (should be trash for Vaal gems) / Fortify (not for Champion) / Concentrated Effect (gem swapping / int requirement).
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-16 07:39:07
April 16 2021 07:27 GMT
#32896
you keep Fortify in your main links even if you're champion. Just wouldn't take the Fortify node, theres several other goodies you can take instead

I dunno how good Impale is, unless you're planning on going Impaler keystone? nvm Impale is good

looks like I'm going GS, exerted VGS should have some sick AoE.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-16 07:54:46
April 16 2021 07:52 GMT
#32897
Well, you can do that, but on HC I wouldn't. There are times when you want that Fortify up and there's nothing to hit for a while. I get that it seems weak to just get Fortify when you can get it from a decent link, but there's a reason why it's the most popular champion pick on melee characters regardless.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-16 08:21:18
April 16 2021 08:20 GMT
#32898
yeah you're right. in that case you could go Soul Tether + damage on full life. if you find that unreliable, honestly going Fortify ascendency node + Fortify Support is better for overall damage. The fortify gem gives a decent amount of extra damage over the maim gem. For clearing, the extra upfront damage is better than maim since you are one shotting, and for bossing you should always put down your totem, so maim should be online

in any case I'm going Slayer so decision is easy for me xD - the Lifetap support gem isn't too bad for early game mana management.. not sure how much of a loss in damage that is though
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 16 2021 09:13 GMT
#32899
I was planning to do Raider Shield Throw, want to play fast unhittable character. Not sure if I should do convert to cold or full physical/impale version
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
April 16 2021 09:13 GMT
#32900
Doesnt totem mess up impales?
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