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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
May 30 2019 23:17 GMT
#30721
Lol keystone. How exactly are tricksters supposed to die now?
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ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
May 31 2019 00:02 GMT
#30722
On May 31 2019 08:17 Alur wrote:
Lol keystone. How exactly are tricksters supposed to die now?

Jesus christ. Also, Xirgil's Crank new meta.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10802 Posts
May 31 2019 10:19 GMT
#30723
Hm? Are there news or something?
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-31 11:15:01
May 31 2019 11:08 GMT
#30724
On May 31 2019 19:19 Velr wrote:
Hm? Are there news or something?

Yeah, a new Wicked Ward keystone near the witch starting area which gives you :
- ES recharge cannot be interrupted if it started recently
- 50% less maximum ES recovery/s from leech
- 50% less ES regen

Sounds like an Occultist nerf, which is overdue in my opinion
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-01 22:18:18
June 01 2019 22:14 GMT
#30725
Chieftain reveal was decent, Gladiator a little disappointing and now Slayer was revealed. It looks like how Ascendancys should look: You don't really know what to pick since there are a lot of good options. I just wonder if the base crit chance is 8% means that Increased Crit support can't increase that. In that case it's less crazy but still good.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
June 01 2019 22:34 GMT
#30726
Slayer looks incredible at first sight
ThaddeusK
Profile Joined July 2008
United States233 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-02 11:51:26
June 01 2019 23:35 GMT
#30727
99% sure that it can't be modified by anything given how it is phrased (same phrasing as loreweave max res for instance)

EDIT: I'm wrong, see Mark quote below.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 02 2019 00:37 GMT
#30728
The only new thing that's really melee-specific is the rework on Impact. There's a lot of good stuff going on, but I'm not convinced that Slayer isn't just going to end up being a great ranged ascendancy.
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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
June 02 2019 06:56 GMT
#30729
On June 02 2019 08:35 ThaddeusK wrote:
99% sure that it can't be modified by anything given how it is phrased (same phrasing as loreweave max res for instance)

Mark from GGG:

"This is correct. Normally the base critcal strike chance for any attack is the critical strike chance of the weapon (which may have already been affected by local modifiers). This modifier sets it to a specific value instead, ignoring the weapon's crit chance. All your modifiers to crit chance, including additions, will then apply to the new base."
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5296 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-02 09:20:49
June 02 2019 07:02 GMT
#30730
fb, crit, AW + the jeweled crit keystone. mwhahaha

edit: failed. back to chieftain then.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
June 02 2019 07:49 GMT
#30731
Base crit for attacks with weapons is 8.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-02 08:19:40
June 02 2019 08:15 GMT
#30732
As for the Berserker changes, it's pretty awesome for damage (like it should be). If there are no huge changes to melee crit nodes on the bottom left/top side of the passive tree, then I'm fairly sure Berserker is better played as non crit and the Blitz node is kinda like Elemental Overload then. You'd need just a little bit of crit chance and it should work fine for non crit builds, just can't pick RT then but accuracy is getting reworked and easier to cap so who knows what RT looks like now.

Maybe for a Hegemony's Era build you could go Berserker with crit, however I'm pretty sure for something like Starforge/Lioneye's Glare or even CoC Quill Rain sheningans Slayer is a much better crit class and that's probably true for much more weapons that have crappy base crit chance (can change tho, will see what they do with the weapon types in the patch).
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 02 2019 10:10 GMT
#30733
Slayer and Berserker are insane now. I need to find a good Cyclone build using one of those two for a friend.

I am still going ranged and spell myself :D Melee are still too squishy from what has been revealed so far.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-02 10:38:37
June 02 2019 10:36 GMT
#30734
On June 02 2019 17:15 HolydaKing wrote:
As for the Berserker changes, it's pretty awesome for damage (like it should be). If there are no huge changes to melee crit nodes on the bottom left/top side of the passive tree, then I'm fairly sure Berserker is better played as non crit and the Blitz node is kinda like Elemental Overload then. You'd need just a little bit of crit chance and it should work fine for non crit builds, just can't pick RT then but accuracy is getting reworked and easier to cap so who knows what RT looks like now.

Maybe for a Hegemony's Era build you could go Berserker with crit, however I'm pretty sure for something like Starforge/Lioneye's Glare or even CoC Quill Rain sheningans Slayer is a much better crit class and that's probably true for much more weapons that have crappy base crit chance (can change tho, will see what they do with the weapon types in the patch).

You don't get any benefit from Blitz without a lot of crit, the charges last 5 seconds and you need to stack them up. The node prior to that is like EO.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 02 2019 10:39 GMT
#30735
Considering the amount of attack speed Berserker gets, getting 20 crits even with as low as 5% crit chance shouldn't be terribly hard. Might be not reliable though idk; and it ofc depends on the skill used.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-02 14:17:05
June 02 2019 14:08 GMT
#30736
I assume it works like PCoC (the wording is the same) and in that case it's impossible to come close to 20 stacks without investing a lot into crit. It's a bit less than 200 hits over 5 seconds assuming 5% basecrit , 100% accuracy, no multistrike and not factoring in the reduced crit chance per Blitz charge unless I'm missing something.

If it works like Voll's Protector it shouldn't be hard, that's true, but Voll's Protector mod is worded differently.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
June 02 2019 14:17 GMT
#30737
Slayer is back on the menu.

Not a fan of how everyone and their mother gets free crit now apparently but it's not like it matters anymore at this point. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
June 02 2019 15:07 GMT
#30738
I can only think of how Raider and Assassin is going to need some love now.

I think Aspect of Carnage and Master of Form should switch places.

So far I'm thinking: Slayer or Pathfinder seems nice for the sustain if bosses are going to be harder, but war cries are awesome with Berserker, and Chieftain is also looking good for the screeen slamming action, so starting a marauder and deciding later might be the best for me.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 02 2019 15:16 GMT
#30739
There'll be some Champion changes too, which is somewhat surprising. They're going to be teased next I think. So all 3 Duelist classes get some changes.
ThaddeusK
Profile Joined July 2008
United States233 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-02 15:52:59
June 02 2019 15:52 GMT
#30740
On June 02 2019 23:08 clusen wrote:
I assume it works like PCoC (the wording is the same) and in that case it's impossible to come close to 20 stacks without investing a lot into crit. It's a bit less than 200 hits over 5 seconds assuming 5% basecrit , 100% accuracy, no multistrike and not factoring in the reduced crit chance per Blitz charge unless I'm missing something.

If it works like Voll's Protector it shouldn't be hard, that's true, but Voll's Protector mod is worded differently.


I'm not sure where you are getting 200 hits from without taking into account the reduced crit chance. You only need 1 crit every 5 seconds to eventually make it to 20 stacks. That said, I think that with 5s duration, dropping stacks will happen fairly frequently during mapping and even during bosses where you have to dodge, so having it take 30s to stack up to 20 is a pretty significant problem.
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