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On March 01 2018 17:49 Velr wrote:
I'm thinking of some Kind of CoC GC-Trickster (or Assassin).
I loved my Cospris-Discharger but it was absolute trash against Guardians and this should do better (with or whiteout broken Trickster ascendancy)?
I farmed shaped vaults with cospris gc last league as a trickster
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I'm kinda set on wanting to play a miner this league, as I'm still lacking a Saboteur in my char list (only played a 2 on HC that died and got deleted). I think I'll go CI and use the new up to 20% life regen (converted to ES) and mana pot / vaal clarity for sustain. I'm also set on wanting to play Arc then as it's my favourite spell. I'm thinking about using Arc mine in a 4L shaper helm and perhaps Ball Lightning in 6L chest, it should be pretty good for bosses with slower projectiles I'd assume. BL also has a decently slow cast time so it might work well for that.
Also, definitely would use Beast Fur Shawl, that's pairing nice with the regen.
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On March 01 2018 19:00 Superouman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 11:25 LagLovah wrote:On March 01 2018 09:36 vndestiny wrote:
Wait which Elder's Unstable Phase the patch note talks about ? I was wondering that too.... A few unexplained things in here.. I was also so confused by that. I got explained that the "Unstable Elder" phase is the phase with the elder having some bondage fun with the shaper and portals spawn mobs while the shaper does his thing. Apparently you can let the shaper die to skip the whole portal phase. I had no idea the allied shaper could be targeted by monsters. You will still be able to do so in 3.2 but it will prevent watcher's eye jewels from dropping at all.
This, its the Phase where elder is chained your job is to protect the Shaper putting the seals in place.
Now this phase will be shorter/more spawns and more aggressive shaper targettting by monsters and if you dont succeed in protecting him no jewel drop.
@ King, Arc is actually a decent single target skill with Void batteries and assassin (selfcast or mines).
Propably better than 6l Ball?
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On March 01 2018 20:22 Quateras wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 19:00 Superouman wrote:On March 01 2018 11:25 LagLovah wrote:On March 01 2018 09:36 vndestiny wrote:
Wait which Elder's Unstable Phase the patch note talks about ? I was wondering that too.... A few unexplained things in here.. I was also so confused by that. I got explained that the "Unstable Elder" phase is the phase with the elder having some bondage fun with the shaper and portals spawn mobs while the shaper does his thing. Apparently you can let the shaper die to skip the whole portal phase. I had no idea the allied shaper could be targeted by monsters. You will still be able to do so in 3.2 but it will prevent watcher's eye jewels from dropping at all. @ King, Arc is actually a decent single target skill with Void batteries and assassin (selfcast or mines). Propably better than 6l Ball?
I'd want Saboteur for sure. It's just massive defense. 20% regen (+ more with Beast Fur Shawl) and easy blind is HUGE. Plus big, big QOL. On Arc, with good gear even as Saboteur 500k dps with Arc is definitely possible, but I'd want to try BL too since it should hit quite a few times with slower projectiles, making it quite good (on paper). Also I'd rather avoid using Void Batteries, since it would mean no ES shield and power charge investment (I'd rather ignore them totally and just use the 3 free ones).
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On March 01 2018 20:22 Quateras wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 19:00 Superouman wrote:On March 01 2018 11:25 LagLovah wrote:On March 01 2018 09:36 vndestiny wrote:
Wait which Elder's Unstable Phase the patch note talks about ? I was wondering that too.... A few unexplained things in here.. I was also so confused by that. I got explained that the "Unstable Elder" phase is the phase with the elder having some bondage fun with the shaper and portals spawn mobs while the shaper does his thing. Apparently you can let the shaper die to skip the whole portal phase. I had no idea the allied shaper could be targeted by monsters. You will still be able to do so in 3.2 but it will prevent watcher's eye jewels from dropping at all. This, its the Phase where elder is chained your job is to protect the Shaper putting the seals in place. Now this phase will be shorter/more spawns and more aggressive shaper targettting by monsters and if you dont succeed in protecting him no jewel drop. @ King, Arc is actually a decent single target skill with Void batteries and assassin (selfcast or mines). Propably better than 6l Ball?
If he is going mines, better to use Shimmeron wands as the penalty does not apply to caster but to mines.
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On March 01 2018 20:31 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 20:22 Quateras wrote:On March 01 2018 19:00 Superouman wrote:On March 01 2018 11:25 LagLovah wrote:On March 01 2018 09:36 vndestiny wrote:
Wait which Elder's Unstable Phase the patch note talks about ? I was wondering that too.... A few unexplained things in here.. I was also so confused by that. I got explained that the "Unstable Elder" phase is the phase with the elder having some bondage fun with the shaper and portals spawn mobs while the shaper does his thing. Apparently you can let the shaper die to skip the whole portal phase. I had no idea the allied shaper could be targeted by monsters. You will still be able to do so in 3.2 but it will prevent watcher's eye jewels from dropping at all. @ King, Arc is actually a decent single target skill with Void batteries and assassin (selfcast or mines). Propably better than 6l Ball? I'd want Saboteur for sure. It's just massive defense. 20% regen (+ more with Beast Fur Shawl) and easy blind is HUGE. Plus big, big QOL. On Arc, with good gear even as Saboteur 500k dps with Arc is definitely possible, but I'd want to try BL too since it should hit quite a few times with slower projectiles, making it quite good (on paper). Also I'd rather avoid using Void Batteries, since it would mean no ES shield and power charge investment (I'd rather ignore them totally and just use the 3 free ones).
What about stun?
Chayula amulet?
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On March 01 2018 22:21 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 20:31 HolydaKing wrote:On March 01 2018 20:22 Quateras wrote:On March 01 2018 19:00 Superouman wrote:On March 01 2018 11:25 LagLovah wrote:On March 01 2018 09:36 vndestiny wrote:
Wait which Elder's Unstable Phase the patch note talks about ? I was wondering that too.... A few unexplained things in here.. I was also so confused by that. I got explained that the "Unstable Elder" phase is the phase with the elder having some bondage fun with the shaper and portals spawn mobs while the shaper does his thing. Apparently you can let the shaper die to skip the whole portal phase. I had no idea the allied shaper could be targeted by monsters. You will still be able to do so in 3.2 but it will prevent watcher's eye jewels from dropping at all. @ King, Arc is actually a decent single target skill with Void batteries and assassin (selfcast or mines). Propably better than 6l Ball? I'd want Saboteur for sure. It's just massive defense. 20% regen (+ more with Beast Fur Shawl) and easy blind is HUGE. Plus big, big QOL. On Arc, with good gear even as Saboteur 500k dps with Arc is definitely possible, but I'd want to try BL too since it should hit quite a few times with slower projectiles, making it quite good (on paper). Also I'd rather avoid using Void Batteries, since it would mean no ES shield and power charge investment (I'd rather ignore them totally and just use the 3 free ones). What about stun? Chayula amulet?
Good point, might have to use it. Maybe it works without with blind and the Pantheon, but doubtful. Though it's better to use Valyrium I guess.
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On March 01 2018 22:55 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 22:21 -Archangel- wrote:On March 01 2018 20:31 HolydaKing wrote:On March 01 2018 20:22 Quateras wrote:On March 01 2018 19:00 Superouman wrote:On March 01 2018 11:25 LagLovah wrote:On March 01 2018 09:36 vndestiny wrote:
Wait which Elder's Unstable Phase the patch note talks about ? I was wondering that too.... A few unexplained things in here.. I was also so confused by that. I got explained that the "Unstable Elder" phase is the phase with the elder having some bondage fun with the shaper and portals spawn mobs while the shaper does his thing. Apparently you can let the shaper die to skip the whole portal phase. I had no idea the allied shaper could be targeted by monsters. You will still be able to do so in 3.2 but it will prevent watcher's eye jewels from dropping at all. @ King, Arc is actually a decent single target skill with Void batteries and assassin (selfcast or mines). Propably better than 6l Ball? I'd want Saboteur for sure. It's just massive defense. 20% regen (+ more with Beast Fur Shawl) and easy blind is HUGE. Plus big, big QOL. On Arc, with good gear even as Saboteur 500k dps with Arc is definitely possible, but I'd want to try BL too since it should hit quite a few times with slower projectiles, making it quite good (on paper). Also I'd rather avoid using Void Batteries, since it would mean no ES shield and power charge investment (I'd rather ignore them totally and just use the 3 free ones). What about stun? Chayula amulet? Good point, might have to use it. Maybe it works without with blind and the Pantheon, but doubtful. Though it's better to use Valyrium I guess.
Since this build will not have good base regeneration, avoiding being chain stunned and not be able to place mines is kind of important :D
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On March 01 2018 23:00 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 22:55 HolydaKing wrote:On March 01 2018 22:21 -Archangel- wrote:On March 01 2018 20:31 HolydaKing wrote:On March 01 2018 20:22 Quateras wrote:On March 01 2018 19:00 Superouman wrote:On March 01 2018 11:25 LagLovah wrote:On March 01 2018 09:36 vndestiny wrote:
Wait which Elder's Unstable Phase the patch note talks about ? I was wondering that too.... A few unexplained things in here.. I was also so confused by that. I got explained that the "Unstable Elder" phase is the phase with the elder having some bondage fun with the shaper and portals spawn mobs while the shaper does his thing. Apparently you can let the shaper die to skip the whole portal phase. I had no idea the allied shaper could be targeted by monsters. You will still be able to do so in 3.2 but it will prevent watcher's eye jewels from dropping at all. @ King, Arc is actually a decent single target skill with Void batteries and assassin (selfcast or mines). Propably better than 6l Ball? I'd want Saboteur for sure. It's just massive defense. 20% regen (+ more with Beast Fur Shawl) and easy blind is HUGE. Plus big, big QOL. On Arc, with good gear even as Saboteur 500k dps with Arc is definitely possible, but I'd want to try BL too since it should hit quite a few times with slower projectiles, making it quite good (on paper). Also I'd rather avoid using Void Batteries, since it would mean no ES shield and power charge investment (I'd rather ignore them totally and just use the 3 free ones). What about stun? Chayula amulet? Good point, might have to use it. Maybe it works without with blind and the Pantheon, but doubtful. Though it's better to use Valyrium I guess. Since this build will not have good base regeneration, avoiding being chain stunned and not be able to place mines is kind of important :D
True. The Pantheon would already fix the chain stun possibility though. Also Shimmeron looks extremely potent, didn't even know it, lol. I'll assume it's crazy rare and expensive? Dual wielding it would be sick with power charge investment, but would mean a lot less ES, which I wouldn't want.
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On March 01 2018 23:02 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 23:00 -Archangel- wrote:On March 01 2018 22:55 HolydaKing wrote:On March 01 2018 22:21 -Archangel- wrote:On March 01 2018 20:31 HolydaKing wrote:On March 01 2018 20:22 Quateras wrote:On March 01 2018 19:00 Superouman wrote:On March 01 2018 11:25 LagLovah wrote:On March 01 2018 09:36 vndestiny wrote:
Wait which Elder's Unstable Phase the patch note talks about ? I was wondering that too.... A few unexplained things in here.. I was also so confused by that. I got explained that the "Unstable Elder" phase is the phase with the elder having some bondage fun with the shaper and portals spawn mobs while the shaper does his thing. Apparently you can let the shaper die to skip the whole portal phase. I had no idea the allied shaper could be targeted by monsters. You will still be able to do so in 3.2 but it will prevent watcher's eye jewels from dropping at all. @ King, Arc is actually a decent single target skill with Void batteries and assassin (selfcast or mines). Propably better than 6l Ball? I'd want Saboteur for sure. It's just massive defense. 20% regen (+ more with Beast Fur Shawl) and easy blind is HUGE. Plus big, big QOL. On Arc, with good gear even as Saboteur 500k dps with Arc is definitely possible, but I'd want to try BL too since it should hit quite a few times with slower projectiles, making it quite good (on paper). Also I'd rather avoid using Void Batteries, since it would mean no ES shield and power charge investment (I'd rather ignore them totally and just use the 3 free ones). What about stun? Chayula amulet? Good point, might have to use it. Maybe it works without with blind and the Pantheon, but doubtful. Though it's better to use Valyrium I guess. Since this build will not have good base regeneration, avoiding being chain stunned and not be able to place mines is kind of important :D True. The Pantheon would already fix the chain stun possibility though. Also Shimmeron looks extremely potent, didn't even know it, lol. I'll assume it's crazy rare and expensive? Dual wielding it would be sick with power charge investment, but would mean a lot less ES, which I wouldn't want.
I would says that if you plan to get it within first few weeks be prepared to pay a few ex per wand.
Poe.trade on standard shows unsold ones 3 weeks back that cost 1ex (my guess is that those got transferred from abyss)
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Yeah during abyss Shimmeron were cheap as hell, sometimes people didnt even pick em up (few chaos tops)
They might be a bit more at start but i'd be surprised if they cost more than 20 chaos a week or two into new league.
How much unreserved mana you gonna have?I remember hating the mine version cause of 120 mana cost per mine, so annoying you actually have to use a mana flask.
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On March 01 2018 23:33 Quateras wrote:
Yeah during abyss Shimmeron were cheap as hell, sometimes people didnt even pick em up (few chaos tops)
They might be a bit more at start but i'd be surprised if they cost more than 20 chaos a week or two into new league.
How much unreserved mana you gonna have?I remember hating the mine version cause of 120 mana cost per mine, so annoying you actually have to use a mana flask.
Well with 25% mana reduction that should be 90 mana now. Much better.
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On March 02 2018 00:02 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 23:33 Quateras wrote:
Yeah during abyss Shimmeron were cheap as hell, sometimes people didnt even pick em up (few chaos tops)
They might be a bit more at start but i'd be surprised if they cost more than 20 chaos a week or two into new league.
How much unreserved mana you gonna have?I remember hating the mine version cause of 120 mana cost per mine, so annoying you actually have to use a mana flask. Well with 25% mana reduction that should be 90 mana now. Much better.
Yeah, 4L in helmet with lvl 20 remote mine (so basically 5L) and place an additional mine would be 85 mana. 6L would be even more. I'll definitely need to use mana flask and vaal clarity, but I don't intend to use wrath so with just discipline and herald of thunder there'll still be around 500 mana unreserved. If that doesn't feel nice and the damage is okay I'll drop HoT too.
A watcher's eye with "(10-15)% chance to Recover 10% of Maximum Mana when you use a Skill while affected by Clarity" could be good too, and probably not expensive. Although if I think about it, it's not that good.
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Anyone playing Tornado Shot recently ? With Rigwald's Quill, is it better to use the chain gem with Raider, or that kill the dps too much and thus Deadeye chain with a multiplier gem is better ?
Last league I did barrage/LA so no idea on TS and Rigwald's Quill + chain stuff =/
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I did last league but as an mf char so not sure if it applies to what you're trying to do. I had good clear speed with ts and rigwalds, I used only dps gems and mirage archer, no chain. Not sure if that's optimal but thr clear speed was good
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Yeah it's for a MF char. Last league I did full MF Windripper gear HH Slayer, using LA/Barrage but no Rigwald. Now I wanna do sth different with Rigwald hearing that the fork + chain TS clear uberly fast. Just unsure as to what setup I should do now.
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I speced out a Deadeye Spark character with gloomfang. 369 157 dps if you hit boss first before sparks chain (and after you shocked him a few times so shock bonus rose up), but if they do chain Gloomfang gives 40% extra damage as chaos damage. Most expensive item is a 6L Impulsa.
Would something like that be able to do most content?
EDIT: https://pastebin.com/AXjsZjW6
Dps shown there does not take into account Ricochet damage bonus.
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eh gloomfang will probably by super expensive no?
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On March 02 2018 02:32 Duvon wrote:
eh gloomfang will probably by super expensive no?
I don't see why, it is only good with Magma Orb and everyone that played that build said it is eye cancer. That is why I went to check if spark can work instead.
Also on poe.trade it is very cheap.
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On March 02 2018 02:37 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2018 02:32 Duvon wrote:
eh gloomfang will probably by super expensive no? I don't see why, it is only good with Magma Orb and everyone that played that build said it is eye cancer. That is why I went to check if spark can work instead. Also on poe.trade it is very cheap.
It won't be expensive and I bet many people will realize the Life lost per hit will kill them. You need pretty expensive Elder (or was it shaper?) rings to counter it on spell chars. It's the only reason why I wanted to make a magma orb miner to begin with (scrapped now tho). Deadeye is obviously strong without gloomfang though.
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