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Gzerble
Profile Joined May 2015
82 Posts
February 22 2018 09:23 GMT
#27341
Am I crazy, or do I think that if GGG wanted to shake things up, then they should just double attribute and mana requirements on everything? The "we'll add more stuff" is a nice way to shake up the meta, and I really get where the developers are coming from, but +attribute (except strength in some cases), +mana, +mana regen are all trash modifiers because they're effectively infinite.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3452 Posts
February 22 2018 09:28 GMT
#27342
On February 22 2018 18:23 Gzerble wrote:
Am I crazy, or do I think that if GGG wanted to shake things up, then they should just double attribute and mana requirements on everything? The "we'll add more stuff" is a nice way to shake up the meta, and I really get where the developers are coming from, but +attribute (except strength in some cases), +mana, +mana regen are all trash modifiers because they're effectively infinite.


How are +int, +mana & mana regen trash modifiers...
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 09:46:06
February 22 2018 09:45 GMT
#27343
Probably depends on the build. I made an es wander with an elder wand that did the Howa effect of damage per 10 int. Int was great for that build as an extra mod, it gave damage and es. Similarly people running MoM get more ehp out of mana so it's good for them. Sure not all builds get use out of stats other than the requirement for items but for other builds they are useful past that.
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 17:40:00
February 22 2018 17:39 GMT
#27344
Seems people are already theorycrafting new Chieftan Ngamahu meatball Cycloners and both defenses and offense looks very decent. Also works better as league starter due to not needing Xoph Blood as Chieftan now has a better version as part of its ascendancy. And it sure beats the Chill Cycloner I wanted to make.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 18:20:59
February 22 2018 18:20 GMT
#27345
Isn't the whole reason to be ngamahus cylcone so that you can go fast with raider or pathfinder and some nice projectile scaling? where's the attraction to being some lumbering slow chieftain?

These ascendancy class reveals are like crack though, showing me a few just makes me want the rest even more
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 22 2018 18:38 GMT
#27346
Cyclone with low movement speed feels awful. Playing it with a class that doesn't have a bunch of in-built movement speed doesn't seem fun at all.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 18:54:53
February 22 2018 18:50 GMT
#27347
I thought Cyclone Slayer was equally popular and that doesn't have any inherent move speed boosts. Though maybe that's the more physical/endgame variant, not a generic map clearing Ngamahu style.

I'm pretty psyched about Champion the more I think about it. I do wonder about taunt immunity though.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
February 22 2018 18:54 GMT
#27348
On February 23 2018 03:50 Duka08 wrote:
I thought Cyclone Slayer was equally popular and that doesn't have any inherent move speed boosts. Though maybe that's the more physical/endgame variant, not a generic map clearing Ngamahu style.

I'm pretty psyched about Champion the more I think about it.

From what I understand Slayer is the go to build for Ngamahu Cyclone and this is supposed to be the alternative. People made 6500 life, 1.3+ mil damage Chieftains already (that is Cyclone only dps, meatball add to that) with good defenses, life regen and other benefits of Chieftain.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 19:16:34
February 22 2018 19:14 GMT
#27349
On February 23 2018 03:50 Duka08 wrote:
I thought Cyclone Slayer was equally popular and that doesn't have any inherent move speed boosts.

Slayer essentially has permanently active Onslaught. You can run a flask to maintain Onslaught on other characters, but that eats a flask slot.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 21:02:05
February 22 2018 20:59 GMT
#27350
Damn they took a lot of MS away from the phasing tree of raider huh (10% from the 2nd notable but also 1% from the small nodes so 12% total)

The tradeoff being a buff of the onslaught arm to give much more reliable onslaught (via 4s->10s uptime and also 10% on hit vs rares/uniques)

I guess raider isn't just only the same 4 nodes every time now.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 22 2018 21:17 GMT
#27351
On February 23 2018 05:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
Damn they took a lot of MS away from the phasing tree of raider huh (10% from the 2nd notable but also 1% from the small nodes so 12% total)

The tradeoff being a buff of the onslaught arm to give much more reliable onslaught (via 4s->10s uptime and also 10% on hit vs rares/uniques)

I guess raider isn't just only the same 4 nodes every time now.

Yeah, good thing. The onslaught path looks very good now!
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
February 22 2018 23:56 GMT
#27352
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/7zjfvv/the_ancient_queen_casts_her_gaze_upon_her/
Did someone say DP totems buff? :D
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 23 2018 01:54 GMT
#27353
Beating uber atziri to fulfill a prophecy means that that shield is going to cost mad bank
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Faeny
Profile Joined January 2015
647 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-23 03:07:58
February 23 2018 03:07 GMT
#27354
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2091353
All about bestiary league.

Hope it doesn't play as bad as it sounds, because it sounds real shit right now. 10 different tiers of consumable nets ("but don't worry you'll only see 2 tiers in any given zone").
SKT hwaiting! RIP TL, TiP
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-23 07:06:41
February 23 2018 07:06 GMT
#27355
at the very least it'll be funny seeing HC rips when people try to net stuff and fuck up somehow

or dying to a beastcrafting ritual, that'll feel pretty ridiculous
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-23 07:46:40
February 23 2018 07:45 GMT
#27356
Biggest worry is that Bestiary crafting is going to be bad. The ones in the two pics in the development manifesto are probably the lowest tier ones, and they suck (white Socket one is mildly interesting). I do think there will be good ones, but I also expect them to need a couple Legendary beasts which could well be as rare as Divine Shrines.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-23 07:53:46
February 23 2018 07:52 GMT
#27357
On February 23 2018 10:54 Sn0_Man wrote:
Beating uber atziri to fulfill a prophecy means that that shield is going to cost mad bank

At first but since it is a guaranteed drop it might drop in price. Also maybe you can pay someone to carry you and kill uber for you and you carry the shield and have the prophecy active.

Wasn't there talk that to upgrade items you no longer need to have them equipped but only have them in your inventory?
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
February 23 2018 07:55 GMT
#27358
On February 23 2018 16:52 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 10:54 Sn0_Man wrote:
Beating uber atziri to fulfill a prophecy means that that shield is going to cost mad bank

At first but since it is a guaranteed drop it might drop in price. Also maybe you can pay someone to carry you and kill uber for you and you carry the shield and have the prophecy active.

Wasn't there talk that to upgrade items you no longer need to have them equipped but only have them in your inventory?

Yup, only need to have em in inventory.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-23 08:17:54
February 23 2018 08:17 GMT
#27359
Getting the prophecy might be harder than doing the Uber Atziri in the end, but yeah, otherwise I could see it being reasonably cheap (maybe 1-2 ex) on SC at least.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
February 23 2018 08:40 GMT
#27360
On February 23 2018 16:45 HolydaKing wrote:
Biggest worry is that Bestiary crafting is going to be bad. The ones in the two pics in the development manifesto are probably the lowest tier ones, and they suck (white Socket one is mildly interesting). I do think there will be good ones, but I also expect them to need a couple Legendary beasts which could well be as rare as Divine Shrines.


We'll see I guess but so far we've already seen some interest in sruff. The ability to mirror maps will certainly be good if it's not too expensive. I believe one other we saw was like an eternal orb lite?
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